[video clip] >> last summer, the nsa director was at a conference and asked a question about the nsaurveillance of americans. he replied, "the story that we have millions or hundreds of millions of dossiers on people is completely false." if you could give me a yes or no answer to the question -- does the nsa collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of americans? >> no, sir. >> it does not? >> not wittingly. there are cases where they could inadvertently collect, but not wittingly. susan: that exchange blew up. can you tell me why? amy: it blew up because technically the answer director clapper gave was wrong. the nsa did have records of millions of americans, but the records were phone records. not the content of your calls, but the number you called and the time you called and the duration of the call. that was incredibly important, that moment, because senator wyden believed director clapper lied to him. clapper believed -- he could not reveal the classified program, highly classified program. he was in a conundrum. how was he supposed to answer the ques

first time there had been a leak of any kind from the nsa and needless to say i called my editors at the guardian at night and said i need to get out of the plane and by immediately to hong kong which i did within 36 hours and spent 12 or 13 days with him there in hong kong which is when we started the reporting there revealed nsa spying to the world. did you ever visit with him in russia? i did visit him in 2016. so maybe two or latin america the obama administration trapped him there ever wanted to be in russia. he had always intended to pass through russia on his way to latin america the obama administration trapped him there by revoking his passport, but most important. by bullying the cubans out of intercending their guarantee of say passage, which he needed in order to get to latin america, so he's been in russia for eight years. so when i visited him he was still hoping one day to be able to leave. by now, he's married his american girlfriend. they have two children, and i think they're kind of building a life there and if he still loves to come home, but you know, if he can't

he was in hong kong, he had gone to hong kong with a batch of documents that he had taken from the nsa that he believed revealed very grave illegalities to the constitution and wanted to work with me in order to reveal them and wanted me to get on a plane to fly to hong kong and i said before you do i need you to prove to me that there is validity, that there's something genuine about what you're saying and he said i'll share with you a tiny portion of the documents and he sent me 20 house speaker documents from the most secretive agency of the world. the first time there had been a leak of any kind from the nsa and even then i called my editor and said i need to get on a plane and fly immediately to hong kong which i did within 36 hours and 12 or 13 days in hong kong which is when we started iothe recording that revealed that to the world. >> did you ever visit with him in russia? >> i didvisit him in 2016 so maybe two or three years after the recording . you know, he never wanted to be in russia. he always planned to go to russia on his way to latin america and the obama administrati

i don't know if you know about that case but the nsa in general. guest: i'm not familiar with the specific case the caller refers to about this charge the caller is making of wiretapping and electronic surveillance as a form of ty rennie -- tyranny, this was monts -- was once mainstreamed. this is a position against electronic surveillance conducted by a private citizen or the government that animated both the right and left for about a century. we live in different political age and those systems have been pushed to the margins. the caller is also referring to i believe at&t's listening room, room 606 or 612 in the fulton street at&t switching station in san francisco. this was discovered in i believe 2006-2007 as a result of a whistleblower that exposed at&t's practice of enabling the government, the nsa, and other agencies, to listen to private conversations through backdoor channels in the internet and telecommunications infrastructures. this too has a long history as well, as early as 1895. the new york telephone company is leasing lines to th

the stuff that edward snowden took from the nsa was all stolen from the nsa.then gave it to the press. so the question is that, if these individuals who say they were engaged in first amendment activity, they were working for project veritas directed them to do this and then claim a role legally in the scheme to illegally obtain the stolen property, would the government go ahead and try to bring charges? all we know in that area is that the government was so interested in this question, so interested in project veritas's role, they yesterday they got a search warrant to go through the homes of its founder and two individuals who were involved in obtaining and trying to authenticate the diary. just getting a search warrant, we obviously we're learning a lot about getting search warrants, but getting a search warrant on somebody who is antagonistic to the administration and claims to be a journalist is a pretty extraordinary thing. before that, it was certainly pretty remarkable at the time. >> it's gonna be interesting to see how this plays out. to see that fol

tonight, an iranian national charged in an alleged plot to ail says nate former trump nsa adviser john bolton. that suspect still at large. the u.s. tonight sending a blistering warning to iran. >>> the war in ukraine tonight. and g7 leaders now demanding russia turn the largest nuclear power plant in europe back over to the ukrainians. and tonight, ukraine claiming it destroyed nine russian war planes in that crimea pblast. >>> authorities releasing new surveillance of that missing 16-year-old girl. the image thought to be the lest known image of her before she disappeared. >>> also, the deadly house explosion. at least three people killed. what authorities are now saying. >>> the major victory for veterans tonight. many gathered along with jon stewart at the white house today. >>> and america strong. last night, it was the hug on the field. tonight, it's the grandfather and the ball field. >>> good evening and it's great to have you with us here on a wednesday night. and we begin tonight with former president trump under oath. six hours of questioning from the new york attorney gener

he sent 20 top-secret documents of most powerful government the nsa.e person there'd been a week of any kind from the usa. cold my editors at the guardian that night setting to get on a plane and fly immediately to hong kong. which i did. which is when we started the reporting that revealed spying to the world. >> your visit with him in russia? >> i did visit with him in 2016 for two or three years after the reporting period he never wanted to be inn russia. the obama administration trapped there by revoking his passport most importantly by bullying the cubans into resending their passage which he needed to get to north america. he bent russia for a year. soap until one dayon be able to leave. they have two children there building a life there. you can tout the life he's chosen. >> is a real debate in this country about julian assange and others heroes orol villains? >> guest: for me there's no real debate part one of things i discovered in my work as a journalist that i did not previously know was the true extent to which virtually everything in washi

once i was able to talk to him he told me he was in hong kong with documents he'd taken from the nsathat he believed revealed illegalities and violations of the constitution and wanted to work with me to reeve report them and i said before you do i need you to prove to me there's a validity and he said i will share with you a tiny portion of the documents. he sent me 20 documents from the secretive agency of the world the first time there had been a leak of any kind from the nsa and i called my editors that night and said i need to get on a plane and fly immediately to hong kong which i did within 36 hours and we started the reporting. did you ever visit with him in russia? >> i did visit him in 2016 so maybe two or three years after the reporting. he never wanted to be in russia. the obama administration trapped him thereby revoking his passport and bullying the cubans out of rescinding their guarantee of safe passage which he needed to get to latin america so he is been in russia and still hoping to one day be able to leave. right now he is married, they have two children and i thi

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also mike pompeo who's very responsible for constitutional to the nsa. >> which i'm for. >> kat: which for. government also doesn't have any business spying on me unconstitutionally. >> nobody's spying on you. >> kat: they are, though. i could use this time to brag about how i was right or about how i keep getting better looking as i get older. but -- i do. but i'm not going to do that because i think there's something more important to take from all of this and it's something that we're not talking enough about. so far so much of the conversation about the raid has been this argument about whether or not it was politically motivated or an abuse of power. so democrats, they say that it wasn't and that it's wrong to doubt the fbi. the public can say that it was and that it's wrong to trust them. vin diesel says, hey, remember me? vin diesel? and me, i feel like i'm the only one noticing that people's opinions about whether or not the raid was politically motivated seemed to be politically motivated, too. but they shouldn't be. all of us should fear the possibility of any government agen

hanging about 300 papers of varying degrees of secrecy from the white house, including cia materials nsaf of the boxes to the national archives trump returned back in january, his remaining lawyers handed over in june that the fbi did not hand over in june. carried out in august after a search of the last two weeks. do we talk a lot about inflation biden and all the disasters of his administration. no we are discussing donald trump and 25 boxes of maralago materials. the more we talk about it and the less we talk about the problems our country is facing, the better for the democrats behind the noise around the maralago. all the same, you can clearly hear how widen's rating is cracking. the washington post writes that fellow party members, rare democratic candidates for governor, are turning away from the incumbent president. which congressmen want his support for their campaigns on those rare days when biden arrives somewhere for political events that have an election ahead try to avoid meeting with him there is on the eve of the midterm elections congress joe biden's work is approved by

let's turn to michael zeldin and former council for the national security agency or nsa. good to see both of you, gentlemen. a lot of key details were redacted from this affidavit, but that first sentence saying the government is conducting a criminal investigation concerning the improper removal and storage of highly classified information in unauthorized spaces as well as the unlawful concealment or removal of government records. so break down for us what that means and how serious that those allegations are. >> what it tells us is that the investigation is an ongoing criminal investigation. that is it wasn't just to retrieve the documents and then the case is closed. there are others that they are looking at who may have been involved in the removal of these documents from the white house to mar-a-lago who did this, and how did they get these highly classified documents out, and then what were they doing with these documents once they were out? those were the two things they most are concerned with. and interestingly, fred, in the request for sealing paragraph of the a

the nsa does. some documents referenced as no foreign, only to be seen with u.s. eyes don't even share it with our allies. all this convince the judge there was really restricted documents at mar-a-lago, and thought there was more there. so they got the search and found more. >> how is trump responding? >> in his usual way with a lot of disinformation in hysteria. accused the judge of being biassed, no proof of that. called it a break in of his home, it wasn't a break in, even though it was a court authorized search. and he said the affidavit was sub tri fuj although the judge said in his opinion he found it to be reliable. >> and still no explanation why he has them. >> that's the key question. >> why did he have them, take them? still don't have an answer to that. thank you very much. >>> let's bring in former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe and cnn contributor former nixon white house council john dean. thank you for being with us. i want to hold up the front page of "the new york times," peop

called cia, nsa and had them help look through the documents. some of the assessment sean is describing is already ongoing behind the scenes. this is a more formal process that i think the committees on the hill want briefed on. kind of thing you're talking about is exactly the issue. if you need to move someone out of a dangerous situation because they are a source of the cia, that person needs to be pulled out immediately, and same thing with the nsa's program. >> so, a layman reading as home including the anchor even though i've spent years covering the news. you fbi agents observed markings reflecting following compartment dissemination controls. fc, fisa, si, based on my experience the affidavit, the person filed the affidavit. document classified typically contain ndis and what appears to be former president of the united states handwritten notes. you see hcs, fisa, what goes through your mind? >> what goes through my mind this is really a very serious situation where those documents should never have been taken out of a secure facility. h

markings about nsa programs and collection of intelligence and fisa. foreign intelligence, counterintelligence and other surveillance. the affidavit, the fib said, "there is also probable cause to believe evidence of obstruction will be found at the premises." what led the fbi to believe there was evidence of obstruction? that's redacted. the fbi did not disclose that evidence in the affidavit that we can see. earlier tonight i spoke with james clapper, former director of national intelligence, and he says there are plenty of concerns about classified documents in a public place like mar-a-lago. >> i would imagine it's kind of a physical security nightmare in terms of preventing unauthorized access, since they really can't control who's in and out of the place. and complicating this further is, i think, is not knowing exactly what the chain of custody has been for these documents, since they left the white house. how were they transported, protected? who's had access to them? at mar-a-lago, has someone, perhaps, reproduced these documents or taken pict

wiretaps, the nsa, or the equivalent of nsas in other countries, the uk's gcaq for instance. to me that it's likely to be consistent with what we know donald trump's proclivity for collecting gossip and, you know, potential compromising details of the lives of foreign officials. >> wow. okay. also on this document, it specifically says, hcs and tk. what does that indicate? >> yeah. so those are two specific indicators of classified information, both at the top secret level. again, sci, sensitive compartmentalized information. hcs is the most sensitive information that the u.s. gathers. it's human controlled sources. these are people whose lives, careers, families, depend on the fact that they are sharing information with the united states remains secret. so this is incredibly sensitive information. tk, another classifiyied indicar that refers to talent key hole, the code name for the nation's satellite reconnaissance systems. we know that donald trump is uniquely interested in that, because the notorious example previous to this of him tweeting out classified information was

so, any other cia materials, nsa materials, those would have been sent back to the home agencies. and they'll have compiled the results of that classification review and damage assessment. >> so, separate issue here. the fact that the justice department has come forward and said it has already basically completed its initial review of the documents seized at mar-a-lago for issues of privilege, does it make it less likely that the judge will agree to the former president's request for a special master? >> well, i think it weakens the argument for the special master for sure. so, not sure which way the judge is going to go on this. the judge has already indicated perhaps a lean towards being inclined to grant the special master. but the fact that the justice department has already gone through these -- and as we know from the portion of the affidavit that was released -- had laid out a team process. so, a separate team, separate from the main investigative team that was designed to review privileged materials, which is a standard practice when they think they may encounter attorney/

demonstrates, unfortunately, i cannot say the same about politicians and fill their tents with the nsa continue. i remain chairman of the state duma committee on international affairs to maintain relations with both the house of representatives and of the us senate, i cannot name their names, so as not to harm these people in the frenzy that the white house is inflating against russia today, but i must certainly say that sound approaches exist in the united states, and they are in the only way and precisely the sound approach to cooperation in forced cooperation in the field of nuclear security should be supported today in the only way, how do you assess the likelihood of a widespread introduction of visa restrictions for russians. which countries can go for it and how can this story turn around? i rate it as stupidity, as nonsense, as completely dislocated. uh, approach and such voices. we remember and initiatives have been voiced more than once. this is not a universal solution; there are a number of countries that are not going to introduce these restrictions or join them . and thos

. >>> joining us to discuss, glen gurstel of the national security agency, the nsa, serving the trump and obama administrations and andrew mccabe, former deputy director of the fbi. good to you bhave you both on here. glen, given your experience in the national security agency, how do you expect this judge to rule and should we view this as both a legal question, right, that releasing this affidavit would show basically the outline of the doj's case, but also an intelligence question releasing more details about what is intended to be secret intelligence? >> sure. jim and bianna, thank you very much. so we'll know -- we may well know it a few hours the answer to this question. my guess is this is from the judge's point of view a relatively straightforward issue and so i think there is a good chance he might rule directly from the bench rather than taking the matter under advisement. it is not that complicated. i say that because the law in that judicial circuit, the 11th circuit, is pretty clear, that when something is in an investigative mode before anybody has been charged, motions

data store, er, nsa. often quote, but, probably, they didn’t sound here, that absolutely all the information that comes out from telephone lines. uh, from the internet it is written to any citizen not only of america but also of western europe, and according to the model of a broken voice, you can get absolutely all your communication conversations in half an hour. well, including, naturally, they are voice, which release the last two years two years face all the data on all citizens of the us and the western european union on this occasion. is it any wonder that the matter had already reached the point of searches, and i had one more brief comment. with uh about the southern way where? eh? as you noticed? now? actually, the united states of america arranges a big problem, but the fact is that for us, after all, the worse, sorry, the better, because the more they will arrange. the more we, as the pacific fleet, will act as an arbiter in helping china, china is also counting on our help and the more intere

my question is whether the fbi upon seeing some of this material shared it immediately with nsa or cia and said perhaps the cia you need to think about ex-filltrating this human source before he gets killed. >> because you think about, frank, that compound -- i want to get into that letter i mentioned. but if you think about the compound, let's bring up the images of mar-a-lago that we were just showing, guys, as i talk to frank here. it's not a secure location. i mean, it's stated in this affidavit, right? and when you have human intelligence sources that are so incredibly vulnerable -- and also, by the way, helpful to the advancement of the interest and motivations of the united states not under lock and key in an unsecure location, what does that say, by the way, to the trust the united states has overseas in recruiting others to work for them? >> you know, we've had similar discussions over the years about the erosion of trust and credibility amongst our allies, and the harm done for the ability to recruit someone and say come work for team america, right? sit across the desk, ask

while former nsa contractor reality winner who had just one classified document was sentenced with prison time because she intentionally leaked the information to a news outlet, according to the justice department is there any justifiable reason why former president trump would have classified top secret documents in his possession still? >> it's hard for me to understand a legitimate national security reason why the former president should have documents he appears to have been holding at mar-a-lago it poses a grave danger to the national security of america to reveal those documents. that's why they're classified at that level, so it's very serious. >> maura joins us from the white house. former president trump is insisting everything was declassified saying all the fbi had to do was ask. does that make a difference >> reporter: jose, all three of the statutes the fbi is investigating does not require the material in question be classified, and legal experts say that argument probably wouldn't hold up in court. even if it does the documents are still government property and it may have

edward snowden, who has been sitting now over in moscow, stateless for over four years because the nsa or cia, he worked for both of them at one time, wrote documents, and it turns out these documents showed that these agencies were domestically spying on u.s. citizens. it's something for a person to walk away like that being called a spy, when he is a whistleblower, you could say. host: are you saying former president trump was trying to be a whistleblower with the documents in his possession? caller: no, i don't think so. he was trying to show he could do that and get away with it. i am saying edward snowden, for instance, was turning out to give information to a british newspaper about that kind of thing going on. here he is, he has been sitting in russia now all this time, and he can't make a deal with the u.s. because when he comes back, they want to try him for espionage. they could probably try him at least for theft of government property. that is a situation that i think is scary, because it shows you how powerful place can get. host: robert. this is bonnie, republican. good m

second, from the nsa has a very close relationship with poland on that front but on the civilian side their human intelligence, the whole case officer philosophy is very good. they're very good at culminating sources and around the world you can clearly see how america look. america's never looked at a size as enemies. the soviets clearly looked at the bulgarians as enemies but the polls could pass through american society. the factthat they can pass through any society unknown . that ability would be held them in human collection. so that's kind of the history of the polish spies services and why thecia used themselves in so many places around the world . >> next question, has the disillusionment set in cost polish officials to reconsider their relationship with nato, not to leave nato but to seek a different kind of alignment . >> during the trumpet ministration there was this flirtation between trunk and the polls and trump like to cultivate a relationship with poland as a lever and way to use against europe. when he was drilling military or american military from germany he actual

. > >> and the new exhibit giving us us a >> one nsa, ic nun who runs a small private school has come up with a way to to help lift families out of poverty and as kiet do explainst involves tough love. >> reporter: at the holy family school in redwood city, nine years of grit and sacrifice have have come down to this moment for daniel vasquez. we are not t talking his graduation. >> it was hard. i cried at the end. but, like, it is amazing because my mom and i were basically in the same school. >> reporter: yes, daniel and his his mother ending their decade long education together. >> i'm so happy i did it. and i'm so happy i took the challenge because it is a big challenge. >> reporter: she lives by the phrase. >> it means it's worth it. >> is it? >> yeah. >> reporter: sending their kids to this small private catholic school does not cost the families a dime. but, there is a a catch. one of the parents must must commit to a full day of one one on one tutoring at least once a week. sister christina who runs the school takes no excuses. >> there is a non-negotiable. ty have to be here

today courtesy o >> jared alexanders written for "esquire", rolling stone, the nation and holds the nsa of literary reporting from new york university school of journalism from 1998 through 2006 he served as us marine deployed to the mediterranean east africa and iraq t growing up on military bases from the east coast to japan and currently lives and calls atlanta home please give a warm welcome to jared alexander. >> good morning. first, thank you for having me. it's a hard year for face-to-face interactions, so to b' here is a real honor. i'm happy to be invited. and the stuff that influenced it. so when i thought about what i word talk about it kept thinking of what moved me into writing about the way that i did. so to take some time to do that i want to start by talking about a book bb would not be considered an inspiration that it was hells angels by hunter thompson. it is as important as the work itself as of the career and the trajectory of that. so by 1965 a journalist for a dow chemical company. and writing in puerto rico for a few reporters and a novel that publishes the one d

he told me he had gone to hong kong with a batch of documents he'd taken from the nsa and wanted to work with me and i said before you do i need you to prove to me that there is validity to what you're saying and he said i will share a tiny portion of the documents into the first and there had been a leak of any kind. i called the guardians which i did when we started the reporting. did you ever visited with him in russia? >> i did visit with him in 2016 may be two or three years after the reporting. he never wanted to be in russia. he passed and the obama administration tracked him there but the passage he needed to get to north america. so he'd been in russia for eight years and when i visited him he was still hoping one day to be able to lead. but now he's married to his american girlfriend, they have two children and they are building a life there. if he can't come home he is content with the life he's chosen. >> there is a debate about julianna's lounge, snowden and chelsea. >> there is no debate. one of the things i discovered is the extent to which everything in washington is done

yeah, so the nsa actually has a very close relationship with poland on that front but on the civilian side, they're human intelligence their whole case officer there kind of philosophy is very good. they're very good at cultivating sources and around the world poland and you could clearly see how they the america looked at americans never looked at polls as spies. we looked at so as enemies. we looked at soviets the soviets's enemies. we clearly looked at the bulgarians his enemies, but the polls could pass through american society. in fact, they could pass through many societies kind of unnoticed. if that ability really helped them in terms of human intelligence and human collection information collection. so that's kind of a sort of a potted history of the polish spy services and why the cia use them so so in so many places around the world okay, next question. let me say has um has the disillusion that set in caused polish officials to reconsider their relationship with nato not to leave nato but to seek a different kind of alignment with it. well during the trump administration. t

at&t and nsa --internet, infrastructure, we had to replace a lot of these because on the bottom of these boards were chips that were installed as they moved through china. if we allow taiwan to fall to china, none of us ever will have freedom again. it started with products sold in wind, which nancy pelosi and several others signed off on because when they wanted to start signing on everybody, they only had to blow up two towers. now, we have got to worry about winnie the pooh and east taiwan. no thanks. taiwan needs to stand free, free hong kong. host: dean cheng, any comments? guest: china is one of the world's leaders in cyber espionage, it's cyber technology is pushing ahead in certain areas, artificial intelligence. they are our peer in some elements of those technologies, and they will be ahead. when we think of u.s.-china competitions, it is absolutely about chips. the interesting thing there, china is intent on building lodging chips, they are not there yet. lodging chips are dominated by taiwanese, south korea and some american firms, but not chinese. host: i wanted to ask you a

i assume he still receive as federal pension or two based on being in the air force, nsa and cia. he's tweeting and he's a perfect example of the mindset and cia and other administrative agencies acting like they don't work for anyone. they don't work for a particular president. they think they work for the constitution or the american people in some lofty sense and it's their job to call out what they see as deformities or injustices in our system. i think katie makes a important point. the question is if you really believe your rhetoric, mr. hayden, about republicans or let's say trumpers, deplorables, january 6 people, maga people in the united states, if you believe t what do you think should be do? in other words if you think these are fascist insurrectionists, would it be okay to lie? would it be okay to destabilize an election somehow? would it be okay to imprison them or prevent them from voting voting? i mean if you really this is a fascist threat to the unit on the level of -- united states on the level of domestic terror, than it's okay to do anything clandestinely or o

the guys at nsa are going, don't tell them. we would have these christmas parties and we would take out some of the stupidest traffic from the intelligence world we saw that year. we would read it out loud. i will make something up because then i will get in trouble. it is just like, a chinese amphibious landing takes place in central mongolia and they spray-painted the beaches there. [laughter] until recently, these stories, i am telling you, would have been read at the cosmos party. hillary clinton steals the blood of frightened children in a hostage brigade facility. to get the adrenal gland of a child running to fuel her new youth serum. literally the plot of monsters inc. -- plot of "monsters inc." monsters collected the -- pheromone of children or whatever. this deep underground intelligence guy knew that hillary clinton was going to be arrested and all liberals would be executed. millions upon millions of americans have thought, this is going to be great. they kept using phrases like it will be like tv, it will be the gr

we do not want these documents shared with the intelligence community, the fbi, the cia, the nsa to do that assessment. talk about unpatriotic. but in terms of the criminal case that is going on, it makes the issue of was it intentional beyond a reasonable doubt. >> so i want to read free of the fbi -- i think is many case i think it's been used in credit incredibly question questionable ways. during the reds gear during the administration. but what it says here. lawfully having access to control over being in trump's with -- we saw these things that you could know, blueprints, and had national defence information. and will fully retain the same and get this -- fail to deliver it on demand to the officer employed by the united states to receive it. they add an extra bar in the statutory language that says this can't be an accident. it also has to be the case that they come calling you get a chance to turn it over and basically not meet the criteria for willful attention. but if you don't turn it over and maybe are in the ballpark and it almost matches uncannily uncannily with the facts

i don't know if you know about that case but the nsa in general.t familiar with the specific case the caller refers to about this charge the caller is making of wiretapping and electronic surveillance as a form of ty rennie -- tyranny, this was monts -- was once mainstreamed. this is a position against electronic surveillance conducted by a private citizen or the government that animated both the right and left for about a century. we live in different political age and those systems have been pushed to the margins. the caller is also referring to i believe at&t's listening room, room 606 or 612 in the fulton street at&t switching station in san francisco. this was discovered in i believe 2006-2007 as a result of a whistleblower that exposed at&t's practice of enabling the government, the nsa, and other agencies, to listen to private conversations through backdoor channels in the internet and telecommunications infrastructures. this too has a long history as well, as early as 1895. the new york telephone company is leasing lines to the new york pol