first time there had been a leak of any kind from the nsa and needless to say i called my editors at the guardian at night and said i need to get out of the plane and by immediately to hong kong which i did within 36 hours and spent 12 or 13 days with him there in hong kong which is when we started the reporting there revealed nsa spying to the world. did you ever visit with him in russia? i did visit him in 2016. so maybe two or latin america the obama administration trapped him there ever wanted to be in russia. he had always intended to pass through russia on his way to latin america the obama administration trapped him there by revoking his passport, but most important. by bullying the cubans out of intercending their guarantee of say passage, which he needed in order to get to latin america, so he's been in russia for eight years. so when i visited him he was still hoping one day to be able to leave. by now, he's married his american girlfriend. they have two children, and i think they're kind of building a life there and if he still loves to come home, but you know, if he can't

i don't know if you're familiar with that specific case, but the nsa in general?m not familiar with this specific case the color of first to. but this charge that the caller is making, of wiretapping and electronic surveillance as a form of tyranny, this is an old refrain. and was a refrain that was once mainstream an american political culture. this is the kind of position against electronic surveillance conducted either via private citizens or the government that animated both the right and the left for about a century. we live in a very different political age and those positions have, i think, been pushed somewhat to the margins. the caller is also referring to, i believe, at&t's listening room. room 606 or 6:12, in the fulsome street at&t switching station and san francisco. this was discovered in, i believe, 2006 or 2007 as a result of a whistleblower. that exposed at&t's practice of kind of enabling the government, the nsa and other agencies, to listen to private conversations through backdoor channels and the internet and telecommunications infrastructures

was in hong kong he had gone to hong kong with an enormous batch of documents he had taken from the nsathat he believed were very grave, illegalities, violations of the constitution and wanted to work with me to review my report them and get on a plane to fly to hong kong and i said before you do, prove to me there's something genuine about what you are saying, he said i will share a tiny portion of the document i have, he sends me 20 top-secret documents from those sick of agencies of the world, first time there had been a week of any kind from the nsa and i called my editors at the guardian and said i need to get on a plane and fly to hong kong which i did within 36 hours and spent 12 or 13 days in hong kong when we started the reporting. >> host: did you visit him russia? >> guest: i visited him in 2016, 2 or 3 years after the reporting. he never wanted to be in russia. he intended -- the obama administration trapped him thereby revoking his passport, bullying the cubans, sending their passage which he needed to get to latin america. he had been in russia for twee 8 years. when i vis

i believe it was happening, versus at&t and the nsa. the thought police have been a well-oiled machine in this governmental apparat since the beginning of time and they've only perfect it when you consider fact that mark klein was the whistleblower who came forward and exposed the nsa had been doing by illegally wiretapping. they had set up a big brother machine is what they referred to it as, whereby they were allowed to go through everybody. everything that you do, every keystroke, every phone conversation. i mean, it's it's hard for us regular people to know exactly how sophisticated the technologies have evolved. but barack obama's first signing statement as president was to dismantle that lawsuit. now, this was a standing lawsuit against, a criminal act against the constitution, and yet it was wiped clean by a single stroke of a presidential pen. and i wonder, was that legal. i don't believe that it was. and when you weigh that into the cambridge analytical analytical scandal, what's going on with spying on our own president? you k

this is the kind of age edward snowden, the early revelation, evidence about the nsa's wiretapping and electronic surveillance programs. and one of the kind of explosive stories in that moment was the extent to which which internet, corporate conglomerates were, so to speak, in bed with the government. and i thought to myself, well, where does this come from? and it turns out these relations ships are as old. the wires themselves western union in the age of the telegraph really pushed back on government attempts to both tap telegraph lines and also access messages. but in the age of the telephone from the beginning as the saying went ma bell was big handmade and over. the telephone carriers around the country. importantly the bell system found it quite beneficial to. provide information also access to kind of infrastructure, telecommunications infrastructure for the purpose law enforcement and national security, surveillance it was in bell's interest mostly because it kept them in the good graces of government regulators. that relationship changes in the 1980s with the break up of the

and then beyond the nsa. >> you can answer that better than i can.ut then on the subject and it with those relationships and in 2001 but i talk with my students about this their own relationship and whether they fear but also the intrusion of individuals. as a more nefarious side to this but as it has shown sometimes there is good side sometimes there is bad side. so they often download tracking software to the home phone so when they go out thursday or friday or saturday night their friends know who they are if they are out late at night their friends can follow them home. so in a strange way they have accommodated themselves with that culture of ubiquitous surveillance built into our hardware. it's important to see both sides of that relationship. is not an advocate for it but i'm fascinated to know to be repurposed for other uses i know it's about law enforcement and spyware but in terms of how private individuals use it there is some context at play. >> certainly consent is key if your friends know their location. you are knowing a lot of what yo

and he found that as an adjuvant sort the, i had no idea who he was and he knew at the time that the nsaying fine r communications domestically, and he contacted me with the pseudonym and was very reluctant to say much about who he was and what he had for obvious reasons. until i installed very good encryption technology. it took us a while to establish a relationship because of that. once is able to talk to him and what he found a secure environment he told me by that point he was in hong kong, that he had come to hong kong with enormous batch of documents hit taken from an essay that he believed revealed very grave illegalities and violations of the constitution and one to work with me and looked reveal an important one be to get a line on a flight to flight hong kong. i need you to put me that there's a litter these there's anything general and about what you're saying. he said all share with you a tiny portion of the document i have. he sent me 20 top-secret dawkins the most secret agency in the world, the first time there'd been a lick of any kind from the nsa and you say i called m

rather show you what we mean with our actions or making something with our hands rather than write you nsa. and you know, ron is actually, he's an ideal libertarian. i think people attempt libertarianism in this country soon learn that on paper it sounds great but if we tried to engage that system it would end in anarchy quickly, is my opinion. and i think ron was an ideal libertarian, , and so he respecd everyone the same. he was a wonderful feminist. he was a wonderful ally to everybody that was decent, and if you were indecent, especially if you crossed one of his friends, then he was quick to take up arms against you. >> host: both you and your wife got to play characters with, or on programs that had multiple political viewpoints. that's kind of a rarity in media. >> guest: it is, and something i'm grateful for because, especially as we sit here in a very partisan time, i think it's very medicinal to be able to laugh together and say, you know, you like peanut butter, i like chocolate. i've heard they can be combined to some great effect, if we can just get close enough to shake hands

journalist would find their sources i don't think glenn greenwald knew heto would sign a contract in the nsa with that contract found him. so this year the fbi agent found me after they rated my home and that agent came to us with internal restricted documents from within the fbi system they were calling us news media it's a very big deal because the c case hinges on if we are news media so people tend too find journalist they can trust and most people don't trust. but we don't pick our subjects. they find us. host: how many times have you been sued. >> or jailed or indicted. >> or my attorneys are standing 5 feet away from me and laughing i don't know exactly how manyla but a few times a couple dozen pieces of litigation over the last ten years we never really lost a case. so if you are in the right and you don't ever settle usually when in a court of law. most recently going on offense for defamation in the beginning of my career people was to me and the opportunity to settle a case i was am not settling any of these we found out with the defamation lawsuit that the people who sued mes. ne

wondering if you thought at all about private surveillance in the smartphone area beyond kind of the nsa and what they can do? >> i think you would probably be able to add to that question, matthew, better i can. i mean, one could, and i think one should, write an entire book on the subject. it didn't take i don't really do much with that come those relationships after come in the kind of smartphone era. the book really stops the extent that it stops wars ever stopped, will ever stop, in 2001. but one thing i would say just offhand is i talk a lot with my students about this, about the own relationship to their phones and whether they fear, or in some cases, welcome both corporate intrusions on their private data and also the intrusions of other, you know, individuals. you cite a sort of more nefarious side to this, but as the surveillance as a surveillance scholarship -- sometimes there's good sides come sometimes as bad sites. one thing i was astonished to learn from my students, this is last semester, is that they often download tracking software to the own phones so that when they go

she printed out a single classified nsa report, and sent it to the news outlet, the intercept.d, due in large part to the carelessness of some of the journalists at the intercept who failed to protect her identity as their source. we could have a lawn conversation about why the folks who protected edward snowden didn't protect her, but she was sentenced to five years in prison. she asserted she was trying to defend the united states against russia, but it didn't matter. even with noble intentions, taking classified documents is against the law, and that brings me back to the twice impeached former president. among the many investigations trump is facing is a doj probe regarding the thousands of documents trump took to mar-a-lago when he left the white house. including hundreds that were marked classified. some of those classified tuments were so sensitive that only a small number of people inside the u.s. government would be authorized to even see them. to this day, trump still has not offered any explanation for why he would need to have any of these materials in his possessio

scandal in germany, patrick sensburg, said in turn that the surveillance of german citizens by the us nsa 2012, which contradicts the cooperation agreement with the prisoner between the special services of both countries, the word of the cia for its anniversary this fall , the reign of 75, managed to be noted in many places in the world. in the last issue, we talked about the secrets of the guantanam prison , bagramma, bugraid, torture, bullying and killing the innocent is the most egregious and proven crime of the 21st century, for which no one has yet been punished. the same generally applies to the entire content of this cycle of our programs about the usa, where we tried to fit only a small fraction of the unscrupulousness and greed of the white house happily oh, mom glasses, what a thrill, a lot of pastry chefs, a lot of teams and our tanya took second place and could be said in one gram of chocolate from the first. and this is the smell that you just love. tell me what a sweet woman you are smells delicious. there says, say production division. what is the name of belarus with svetl

gone to hong kong with an enormous a batch of documents had taken from the nsa he revealed i wanted toork with ming in order to reveal money to get on a plane and fly to hong kong. before you do something genuine about what you're saying there's all right i was sure the wake tiny tiny portion of the document i have. he sent me a top-secret dock where the most secret agency of the most powerful government is the first time there been a leak of any kind at new e-cigs say i called my editors that night and setting to get on a plane and fly immediately to hong kong. which i did within 36 hours within 12 or 13 days of him being in hong kong. if you ever visit with him in russia? for maybe two or three years after the reporting period he never wanted to be in russia. by revoking his passport but most importantly by bullying the cubans into rescinding the passage when she needed to get to latin america. he'd been in russia for eight years. when i visited him he was hoping to one day be able to leave. right now he's married his american girlfriend, they have two children in building a life the

uh, i prepared a document for the cia nsa and hackers pulled it out and it is on the network this documenth, january 25, 2022, and the weakening of america is the weakening of germany it says in plain text that the situation in america is such that without material confi resources. no, she can't resist. there are only two sources. where to get these resources, china or the european union but china this is a subject of world politics, unlike the european union, which is an inferior political body, and in addition, the chinese economy, but it is tied to the american one, therefore. the conclusion was very, very simple. i even i will even quote him. an increase in the flow of resources from europe to the united states can be expected if germany begins to experience a controlled economic crisis the pace of economic development of the european union almost without alternative depends on the state of the german economy, and then it says who the german economy depends on, it depends on russian resources and on french electricity with the french. since they now have problems with achilles, they wi

it sounds like you are from a 70s stephen stegall movie from some sort nsa strange way to manage.rk you might attract a very loyal people who want to work for him. there is an expression several of his dominions essay which is ride or die. we don't live in the old west anymore i don't think. so it's kind of strange. >> i am not going to mock you on that. >> i don't know. anyway. >> i think i have an idea what it means. it's an idea that it some other culture and what you want to do is inspire people to make great products. he is a very inspirational thinker. he has people who believe in him and i don't know why he wouldn't take advantage of that and create a different kind of culture. >> that might be the billion dollar question. cara, thanks so much. nice talking to you as always. after 4 students were found dead and off campus bedhousing at the university y idaho. we will go to the scene after this. >> knew details tonight about the shocking killings of 4 university of idaho students that happened last weekend. police are saying at a press conference tonight that there were two

uh, the rent corporation on hmm prepared a document for the cia nsa and the hackers pulled it out andthe network this document is called uh, january 25, 2022, and the weakening of america is the weakening of germany there it is written in plain text that the situation in america is such that without material confi-financial resources. no, she will not be able to, and there are only two sources to survive. where to get these resources, china or the european union, but china is a subject of world politics, unlike the european union, which is an inferior political body, and besides, the chinese economy, but it is tied to the american one, so the conclusion was made, very, very simple. i even i will even quote him. an increase in the flow of resources from europe to the united states can be expected if germany begins to experience controlled economic crisis the rate of economic development of the european union almost without alternative depends on the state of the german economy, and then it says who the german economy depends on, it depends on russian resources and on french electricity

it was not in the nsa data.s caution because it has been difficulty seasonally adjusting the data post-pandemic. if you continue to see that rise, it is something that tells you the market is going to we can. jonathan: this was awesome. going into the print, coming out of it. this summer 13th, put -- december 13, put it in your diary. a massive move lower in treasury yields, down 19 basis points. that triggers a move in the fx market. yields lower, dollar weaker. look at this move in the equity market. exploding higher on the s&p 500. futures up to .9% on the s&p. nasdaq 100 futures with that move-in bond yields, up close to 4%. three point 75% right now. tom: month over month matters. most of us rarely get that. if you regress month over month from the peak of 2021, you do not get to 0.3% until early 2024. jonathan: wall street is focused on month over month call, to look for signs for deceleration. you need to see another one. tom: exactly. lisa: i do not think they are waiting for another one. i think they ar

becca: yes, sometimes a review is a better occasion for nsa. celeste: fine. sorry. >> for me, the essay that liberties publishes, which tends to be longer, more expensive than the average straight book review is my preferred form, because for me, essay writing especially is always about the discovery, so i rarely know what i think about a subject before i sit down and write about it. all that comes out in the writing itself, so having the space to explore that and cover that is important. celeste: can i ask you about the essay that she wrote for us celeste:? ? it was a takedown of literary biographies, but you also wrote literary biographies, so did you know there would be tension between her identity is the author of the essay and the other? morten: i saw it as a defense of literary biography, slightly doomed genre. it was slightly more of a takedown of a certain kind of biography, but a defense of writing biographies, and a lot of criticism, it is self-serving in the sense the kind of biography i was advocating for is what i aspire to write. celeste:celeste

maryland's decade, think about the assets of the state of maryland, this is home of cyber command and the nsaih and johns hopkins university and top universities for top hbcu's in the state of maryland, this is maryland's decade and i'm excited to lead maryland. >> shannon: after that decade, aspirations, do you feel pressure of that? >> i don't, i'm a kid who just decades ago, i felt handcuff from my wrists when i was 11 years old. my mom was an immigrant single mother who raised three children on her own, she didn't get a job and benefits until i was 14, i am living the dream right now. if someone said to that 11 year old kid, one day you would be governor, i would have never believed them. i'm in this race and i got into this race and plan to be the kind of governor that wants to make sure stories like mine don't have to be expections, but rules for how maryland you have moos. i am -- i know how grateful and thankful i am for the moment we fine ourselves in and ready to get to work, this is maryland's time. >> shannon: make america's time after that, come back and tell us what your plans a

national storage affiliate trust with the ticker of nsa the executive director with a $2 million buyment. stock down 30% of the past lthre months number three boeing david calhoun with the first insider buy at boeing. 25,000 shares worth $3.976 million. the biggest insider buy at boeing in 19 years the top two of the week. cme group. $8.2 million buy by a long time board member and largest on record at the cme. that wasn't the biggest. the biggest of the week. charter communications board member making his first ever buy first buy is $10.1 million the board member is also the founder of media focus private equity firm search light capital. charter is down 50% for the year one may see value. caesars and national storage affiliate and boeing and cme and charter communications the seegment you will only see here on wex or cnbc pro. >>> on deck, rally set to run. why scott minerd says the stocks may bounce in the final weeks of 2022. >>> if you miss "worldwide exchange" check us out on all your podcast apps. we will be right back. ♪♪ hey dad, i'm almost out. i got you. any questions, chr

two nsa employees are serving long prison sentences right now for taking home classified documents.director david petraeus pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor. and earlier this year, a hawaii woman was sentenced to three months in prison in february after taking home classified records from her job at the u.s. military's pacific command. just last week, an fbi analyst in kansas city pleaded guilty to a felony after admitting taking home 386 classified records. what's interesting about that case, it was prosecuted by david raskin, an experienced terrorism prosecutor who has been advising the mar-a-lago team. another veteran prosecutor just left a law firm to join the mar-a-lago team. so the bottom line here, jose, it's pretty clear that anyone who did what trump was done would have been charged and that is a fact that's heavily weighing on the justice department initial officials who are deciding how to proceed in this case. >> thank you so much. >>> that wraps up this hour. we're going to have steve kornacki join us after a short break. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports." diaz-b

we think of the assets of the state of maryland this is literally the home of cyber command and the nsa nih, john hopkins university and some of the top universities in the country for the top hbcus in america are the state of maryland. this is going to be maryland to decade. i'm excited to lead maryland throughout that time. shannon: after that decade aspirations? do you feel that pressure that? >> i don't. i am a kid who just decades ago i first felt handcuffs on my wrist when i was 11 years old. my mom wasn't immigrant was a single mother who raised three children on her own but she did not your first job that gave her benefits until i was 14. i am living a dream right now. if someone would've said to the 11 year old kids with handcuffs on his wrist that one day you're going to be governor, i never would have believed them. i am in this race and i got into this race and i plan to be the type of governor that wants to make sure stories like mine do not have to be exceptions. it's stories like mine can be rules for how maryland moves. i already know how grateful and thankful i am for t

. >> and the antioch, nsa full direction. so could be issue if you need to catch a flight this morning, they do have a mutual aid being provided. but again, you don't know how long this is going to take. so you might want form alternate route for yourself this morning in the late 80 westbound of magazine street, we have an accident there. so pretty sluggish as you're traveling along a t heading into the city, no delays or accidents contributing to the 22 minute ride into the city maze to that fremont street exit san mateo bridge about 15 minutes to 80 to 101. and if you are in the south bay traveling up 1, 0, one, 85 into menlo park around 38 minutes. darya. james, back to you. thank you. rae to 71 in new this morning. redwood city is extending its temporary ban on new gun store. yeah, that decision was well received overwhelming support during last night's council meeting from 4 sarah stinson following it for us live from redwood city. >> this morning, sarah. >> well, the debate on where gun shop should be in redwood city if

vietnamese to stay away from it and humphrey gets no bump but johnson knew about it because he had fbi cia nsa material indicating that the nixon campaign was monkeying around and nixon thinks that all of that material is in a safe in this bombing halt file at the brookings institution. so on june 17th, nixon and kids bob haldeman chief of staff generalist policy advisor and henry kissinger his national security advisor. talk about this in the oval office and it's this conversation and some others that's going to lead nixon to try to plug up this and other lease which will lead him to create the plumbers and the plumbers leads right into watergate. this is one of the conversations you can hear on the miller center website, and i'd like to play it for you. but i also want to give you an opportunity to ask some questions. so let's let's hold on to this for a while and let me just tell you. a couple other things before we breaking and then open it up. um, i think that these materials are are just golden for our purposes particularly in living in a democracy because they provide some sense of tran

program program, because the nsa program is publicly funded, have to is publicly funded, they have toit, warts and all while it's going on and that's it. there is pressure them obviously politically to get it done and if you put too much pressure on you need to access which is what led to the challenger disaster killing seven astronauts way back in 1986. and that was political pressure being placed song now set to launch in conditions that should never have launched it . should never have launched it. they've been told this time, of course, there'll be no political pressure. going allow pressure. they're going to allow them their job done. and them to get their job done. and so therefore, it's a very successful they think this successful they just think this launch was going to all set launch that was going to all set up checklist to going through up a checklist to going through it perfect launch it all. it was a perfect launch it all. it was a perfect launch it was absolutely spectacular to say the very least, it was the first time this all up system has actually been launched to put

ort ogical mg i think that is the nsa has they transitioned. what are their hormone levels? what are their hormone levels? i mean, when you wheevels.n you really look at athletes haveatul all different natural hormone. s >> so it is a nuanced question . your grin in that clip, why m were you grinning? >> i mean, you can't can't make up, tucker. >> it's almost like she's playing a character. but thesche peoplethis. actually believe this or evenans more dangerously, i don't know know i believes that, but know she knows that she has to genuflect to this ideology. i think it really speaks to show how just radical the democrat party is right i ao now. so the message fort thoseican,a who like, hey, i'm not a republicane , maybe they're an independent, maybe they're a democrat, there is no moderation any more withderatioe the democrat party.n st protdemocrat party.n st protecting our children. are okay with biological males going into women's locker rooms ,women's bathroomsthem i and competing against them in sports to includ spe contactnclud sports . i mean, ten , fifteen year yea

because the thing massive thing about america's massive program because program program, because the nsa no hiding anything to the way. so you see it, warts and all while it's going on and that's it. there is pressure them obviously politically to get it done and if you put too much pressure on you need to access which is what led to the challenger disaster killing seven astronauts way back in 1986. and that was political pressure being placed song now set to launch in conditions that should never have launched it . should never have launched it. they've been this time, of they've been told this time, of course, there'll be no political pressure. they're to allow pressure. they're going to allow them their job done. and them to get their job done. and so therefore, it's a very successful they think this successful they just think this launch was going to all set launch that was going to all set up checklist to going through up a checklist to going through it perfect launch it all. it was a perfect launch it all. it was a perfect launch it was absolutely spectacular to say the very least,

nsa phone don't have much in the way of delays. it all looks pretty good with all of that.u as we get a little closer. we've had offshore winds have been working overnight. that's kept temperatures because of the breezy conditions. a little bit suppo ted with all of this. if you're headed up to tahoe, by the way, the finnish off the weekend early next week got the mid to upper 40's at work here. a few little scattered clouds will throw in here. there's already snow that's happened. but how about adding to that? the way to after the holiday next weekend might be able to deliver on that front. quick check of the temperatures. mostly 40 mostly 50's rather. 45 up to santa rosa. see the mid-fifties line up the east bay shoreline. a little cooler in london. they're going to need to trail inland all day today. yes, these fish or not, it will be treated to the warmer numbers. dry air. here it is a weak wave of some marine little moisture coming across overnight. but by saturday, we dry out again and then sunday night. here we go. and a little dose of some marine layer. alright, lon