morning of the 27th now , and asked me if i could come back to his office so i went back with the nsd official and there were essentially four topics that he wanted to discuss there and one of those topics was precisely that. he asked about the applicability of certain statutes, more specifically -- >> this was the second meeting at the white house council's office in his office again? >> in his office again. >> with the same two individuals? >> exactly. >> on the following day? >> right. >> and you went back pursuant to a phone call request or -- was -- >> yes. the morning of the 27th after our meeting had occurred on the afternoon of the 26th, the morning of the 27th, mr. mcgann called me and asked if i could come back to the white house to discuss this further and we set up a time and i went over there that afternoon bringing again the same career official with me from national security division who was overseeing this investigation. he had the same associate from the white house council's office and we talked through four to five more issues. >> you could perhaps have waited until you actu

so i went back with the nsd official and there were four topics that e he wanted to discuss there. one of those topic was preceasely that. he asked about the applicability of criminal statutes. >> this is the second meeting at the white house with the same two individuals on the following day? >> right. >> you went back pursuant to a phone call request or? >> the morning of the 27th after our meeting had occurred on the afternoon of the 26th, the morning of the 27th, l. mr. mcg asked me to come to the white house to discuss this further. we set up a time. ien went over there that afternoon bringing the same career official from national security division overe seeing this investigation. he had the same associate from the white house counsel's office ask we talked through four to five more issues. >> you could props have waited until you seen the agents 302 from the interview of general flynn. why go ahead of that? why not wait? >> because this was a matter of some urgency. >> describe. >> in making the determination about notification here, we had to balance a variety of interest.

i went back with the nsd official. there were four topics that he wanted to discussion there. one of those was precisely that. he asked about the a applicability of certain statutes -- >> this was at the white house -- >> the white house. >> with the same two individuals on the following day? >> right. >> you went back pursuant to a phone call request or -- >> yes. the morning of the 27th after our meeting occurred on the afternoon of the 26th, the morning of the 27th mr. mcgann called me and asked if i could come back to the white house. we set up a time and i went over that afternoon bringing the same career official me from national security division who was overseeing this investigation. he had the same associate from the white house counsel's office. we talked through four to five more issues. >> you could have waited to see the agents 302 of general flynn. why go ahead of that? why not wait? >> this was a matter of urgency. >> describe. >> in making the determination of notification, we had to balance the interests. it was critical that we got this information to the whi