but we do know that nso only sells to governments and government agencies.er dimension of the project. we were at this stage entering a space, a dangerous space, where we were talking about a country, a state, attacking another one. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> each time you look at how a client of nso group used the technology, it tells you something about that government. in the uae, sheikh mohammebin rashid al maktoum is prime minister, vice president and, of course, the ruler of dubai. here is an autocratic leader. massively powerful. princess latifa is the daughter of sheh mohammed. she had for a long time been, by her account, unhappy about her life in dubai. she had been... incarcerated, effectively, by her father's regime. >> i'm making this video because it could be the last video i make, yeah. (sighs) this video can help me because all my father cares about is his reputation. he will kill people to protect his own reputation. he, he only cares about himself and his ego. the princess latifa concocted this extraordinary attempted escape that involved jet skis, a yacht

and, if you like, nso group was in many ways, you know, the jewel in the crown. >> the nso group wasost successful companies in israel's start-up space. >> nso says they sell the software to governments around the world for legitimate purposes-- fighting terrorism, or violating local laws. >> here was a company founded by three guys in 2010, that claim to have 40 countries around the world buying its technology. that made bold claims about its technology being used to solve serious crimes and help facilitate national security enquiries. this was a big deal. >> i can tell you on the last ten years, we only found three cases of misuse and we took very serious action that we are always taking. and these serious actions meant that we shut down the system completely. we only sell it to governments or to entities that we know or we want to believe that they will not misuse the tools. and this is how we check the customer. this is how we diligence them. we have all the mechanism to make sure that they are not misusing the systems. in the middle of paris, in the middle of this big covid cris

again there was a debate about the first major story that the talking points that came out from the nso and others is the metadata that we are collecting has contributed to something like 94 terrorism plots as a result of that and then congress and the media and others pushed back and forth and said maybe it's more like 30. there's another round of that and they said when we look at the numbers there's a handful like six or seven and a couple of months later after's scrutiny there were zero examples they could point to to say this program actually prevented the terrorism attack from occurring. that wasn't initially what was disclosed. what was disclosed was a personal information of a program that ended up being scrutiny that are things the government needs to grapple with and there's a reason why we are so skeptical of the plans being made about the different programs and different classified issues because often the full story is not told. >> of course we are talking about something that is governed by the legal framework and the publishing and receipt and publishing of classified inf

the independent bipartisan federal agency responsible for overseeing counterterrorism programs at the nso, fbi, cia, department of homeland security and other federal agencies. so i want to talk a little bit about why we are here today. the concern that too much information is unnecessarily classified and that over classification and inability to share information can undermine the critical democratic objectives. i end of the other members share these concerns and we welcome her efforts to reform the classification system. we look forward to hearing her remarks into the conversation this evening. please join me in welcoming haynes and mr. klein. [applause] it's an honor to be here with all of you today with senator cornyn who is a long-term member of the senate select intelligence committee and important wisdom has enabled the communities mission over the years. but thanks as well to the clements center for national security, the strauss center for international security and law, the intelligence studies, the lbj presidential library, the school of public affairs and the public-interest d

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nso the newspaper editorials of the time are full of plenty of yourbole about this'll cure instantly, and it'll be perfect. and we're not sure how much that worked. maybe people who stayed with the chambers got better and maybe they didn't, but we know it worked for the chambers and then the whole business advertising for this sort of thing brought in people and helped them survive. so then that's kind of the end of chapter two. here's a picture of the chambers family. so that's robert and elsie behind the horse and hair daughters, eleanor and mary, with the horse. and up on the porch, from what we understand, those are boarders. there. up and then i just love this picture because the house looks exactly the same now. but what we're missing are those white things behind it. those panels are the roof of a glass greenhouse the chambers designed and built a couple of those. they were steam heated, and that was a really important source of revenue for them during these years. so anyway, we're going to get to that once i get past the grasshoppers. this was probably my favorite part of enti

spyware group pursue pegasus spyware laws whether laws and it's a debate whether this are something this nsohey say dodgy or helpful. now they say that sort of captive that that held sort of captive and they had information on the khashoggi incident and things like this but the journalist for the washington post, he was murdered in saudi arabia. but the argument against is, well, you be spying people you shouldn't be spying people via whatsapp and basically the supreme court upheld the lawsuit that you can't get immunity just because their argument was that they were acting as an agent for an foreign government, which sounds to me just like, hey, guys, we were like, this is ages for governments. we've never seen or heard of working for. spector don't know who spector yeah, we don't know who is. pegasus fire is pretty serious stuff because it can it can get into your phone it can turn itself on and film things without your knowledge. you can listen without listen in without your knowledge. messages knowledge. it can send messages without knowledge. yeah. without your knowledge. yeah. and to o

he e nso wounded in solidarity with bakhmut, ukrainian militants overwhelmed hospitals, not only in the donor blood, british textile correspondent alex rossi visited the hospital and on the outskirts of solidarity , the intensity of the fighting struck him. this is one of the most fierce of this war is armored vehicles. moving from place to place at the front line on snow-covered roads to open fire. and the earth is shaking due to the incessant artillery strikes, they begin to express dissatisfaction with the head, tinned, one of the militants published a video complaining about the command, behind him there is an inscription with us god etoman, zaluzhny and the last words. you, already crossed out , are demanding a change in the military leadership, alluding to general krivonos who criticized zelensky and fell into disgrace. well i think, i think it will cope when we have military people in key positions who already understand the needs. think about it, i really like to have such a general who defended the airport, zhuliany. i think that he probably would have done something differentl

yes, we have the elimination of grenade, fragments and so on nso wounded in solidarity and bakhmut, ukrainiand hospitals, not only in the city kramator, even in lvov, far from the front, there is not enough donor blood, the correspondent of the british fabric, alex rossi, visited the hospital and, on the outskirts of the solidar , the intensity of the fighting struck him. this is one of the fiercest battles. this war armored vehicles. moving from place to place at the front line on snow-covered roads to open fire. it's unclear because of the smoke, and the ground is shaking because of the incessant artillery strikes. they begin to express dissatisfaction with the head, tinned one of the militants published a video with complaints about the command for on his back is the inscription god is with us. and ataman zaluzhny and the last words. already crossed out , you are demanding a change in the military leadership, alluding to general krivonos who criticized zelensky and fell into disgrace. well , i think, i think to fix it. then when we have military people in key positions who understand the n

illinois, should we worry about social media platforms data collection when there are agencies like the nso sells life and surveillance spyware such as pegasus to government agencies? guest: i am certainly more worried about those kinds of issues, the government gathering data. as frustrating as it is -- i understand, no one like to be in facebook jail. some of the calls these companies have made seem crazy to half the country, the next one is crazy to the other half of the country. that is all very sincere, i really do understand. at the end of the day, facebook and twitter cannot put you in jail and freeze your bank account. the u.s. government will not make you that deal. having that bright line distinction between facebook knowing what kind of coffee i like and sending a coupon is very different for me than having federal agents without warrants asking for information about what citizens of the united states -- host: as a house committee gets underway, we would like to have you back to get your take the jessica melugin's director of the center for technology and innovation at the enterp