the strongest economy in the world have the highest level of unionization in nthern europe and we far stronger-- >> i know that europe is the-- >> hold on, let's, i just want to get to jonas quickly. jonas, do you think that unions are negotiating their way out of jobs? there's certainly room for unions at certain time, but is now tha time? >> the time was about 35 years ago. unfortunately, the way the global economy's changing, it's very difficult to negotiate anything as a union and that's why unionization rates in the pvate sector are shrinking and will continue to shrink. you can't fight the global markets, and dficult to negotiate the benefit packages people use today get 20, 30, 40 years ago, to ease he to move off shore and outsource. and it's a strange one, not the way you see a damage mostly to profits and also the economy. the state with the highest union rate is new york, a lower unemployment rate than north carolina and 2.9 versus 28% because the unions actually stopped in some cases that's not good for the economy and it keeps the unemployment artificially high and remove