it's smaller, and you're part of a larger team at ntia. it's fun because you're part of the trade trips, and you're part of the economic agenda. but you are kind of always answering as a team, not necessarily as what you think. when you go over to the expert agency of the fcc it's almost three times as large. the depth of the expertise there is incredible, and the fact that you are independent and it's communications all the time is really delightful. my second or third day of work i met this woman, and she was lovely, and she said, you know, i have been working on the universal service high-cost fund for the last 18 years. and so it's just terrific to be able to delve into, you know, have the expertise to really understand these issues in as much depth as we really need to to be able to make the decisions for the communications for the next generation. >> host: but you've gone from the presidential administration to a minority position on the fcc. >> guest: that's true, but we're five people. i think when people have analyzed it, we vote