there is an executive order from president bush that called for a strategic plan and ntia did a federal strategic plan looking at the spectrum the federal agencies use. we need to do the same thing at the fcc and then we need to bring those two plants together and see if there is some room for us to you know, it possibly maybe some of the department defense wants to use some of the commercial spectrum as well as obviously commercial in defense. we have one test bed together and we need to implement more test beds and certainly some of these technologies that are out there, cockman they have radios, these are technologies that are in development but that the dod as well as the commercial sector. they are going to make all of these things easier, to make sharing of spectrum. there are smart technologies where they can see when something is being used and new, so it really, we need to expedite that development and make it easier for them to be brought to market. yes, i think we certainly need to work together on this project. >> guest: i was just curious about the white spaces barcode remi

that are employed by ntia and fcc?ect that there are, do you have recommendations for the how the processes could be improved? anyone want to answer? mr. largent? >> i would just repeat some of the problems as being a short comings that i think are addressed in both of the bills. definite step in the right direction. >> all right. thank you very much. anyone elsement to briefly comment on that? mr. hatfield? >> i would add to the commission has done things in the past to encourage a secondary market. one the things it's centrally controlled. therefore, there's a lot of rigidities built into it. it has gone to the use of secondary markets where they can lease spectrum. that has not worked out quite as well as some of us would hope. >> thank you, mr. hatfield. my time has expired, the gentleman from florida, mr. stern is recognized for five minutes. >> thank you. one of my questions for you is when we had the auction for dtv and raised about $19 billion about and i was a cosponsor, it came the backbone of the generation

since ntia will work less than half of the funding to this date for broadband mapping, congress couldify that a portion of the remainder be used to inventory the airwaves as well we also strongly support h.r. 3090. -- 3019. we support h.r. 3019, we believe the legislation should be broadened to taken passage of a critical opportunity to free up the greater spectrum capacity. h.r. 3019, would continue to limit eligibility for radio system modernization to agencies actually clearing frequencies. while only a tiny fraction of federal spectrum could be cleared and auctioned in the near future, a for greater number of bands could be shared more intensively by taking advantage of advances in smart radio technologies. federal spectrum incumbents need the resources to take affirmative steps to enable more intensive access and then sharing by other users. this could be a real win-win for the military. new and upgraded federal systems could be designed and procured with the broader public interest inspectors access in mind and not only in the very limited case of a band being cleared for auctio

you were part of a larger team at ntia. this fun because you were part of the trade trips and part of the economic agenda. but you are kind of always answering as the team, not necessarily what you think. when you go to the expert agency of the fcc it is almost three times as large part of the death of the expertise there is incredible and the fact you are independent and it is communications all the time is really delightful. my second or third day of work i met this woman and she was lovely, and she said i have been working on the universal service high-cost funds for the last 18 years, so it is terrific to be able to have the expertise to really understand these issues in as much depth as we needed to be able to make the decisions for the communications for the next generation. >> host: you have gone from the presidential administration to a minority position on the fcc. >> guest: that is true but we are five people. when people have analyzed it, which move together 90% of the time. host: last question. >> guest: what ar