expecting an ntsb briefing at any minute now. but for now, we can bring you some new details on this. some of which are reported moments ago. susan candiotti has details. she has been following the story since it broke. what do you have now? >> don, additional information about the victims in this horrific accident. according to the police, three victims have now been recovered. now we hear among them are two adults and one child. the two adult victims were believed to have been found in the wreckage of the helicopter. the child was one of the two passengers aboard that small plane along with the pilot. however, we must note that so far the plane's debris and wreckage has not yet been found police say. at this hour, as we show you the scene of where the divers have been working, we can tell you that, in fact, they have called off the search for the night. you have a u.s. coast guard ship out there. you also have new york police department ships, boats as well. as helicopters. occasionally are flying overhead. they will be here al

but the faa and ntsb both say the comptrollers' actions are very disturbing. the ntsb tells nbc news, the teterboro comptroller handling air traffic saturday morning made a nonbusiness related phone call after clearing the pilot of the small plane for departure. the ntsb says the teterboro comptroller told the pilot to contact newark airport but failed to advise him of air traffic in the area. a newark comptroller did see the traffic but had not heard from the plane yesterday. newark asked teterboro's comptroller still on the phone to steer the pilot away. we have no reason to believe at this time that these comptrollers' actions contributed to the accident. but today the new ntsb chief had a sharp response. >> it is too early to speculate whether or not atc was cause sal -- causal in this accident and it is inappropriate for others to do so. >> reporter: the faa? >> yes. >> veteran air traffic comptrollers insist multitasking is part of the job. >> air tffic comptrollers can never have a bad day, a bad day as an air traffic comptroller could result in the los

the ntsb is going to investigate. they will eventually find the significant parts of this aircraft and be able to track down the pattern of failure and will use radar tracks to see how the aircraft also managed to come together as well. but right now that is what it looks like. >> of course, first priority is trying to get to any potential survivors. is the ntsb, in any way, involved in that. do you donate resources in that effort as well? >> the ntsb will take over after the search rescue recovery operation is complete. so right now the top priority is to rescue anybody who has survived the accident. and may be injured or may be ready to be rescued. after that, they will be, continue to search for any victims of the crash. and the ntsb will move to look for wreckage and piece it together. >> what is your understanding where the search-and-rescue stand right now. the u.s. coast guard is confirming one person has been rescued do you know anything about the condiagnostion of tha person? haw haw i don >> i don't. if repo

we joined two local ntsb investigators who have been on scene today. our investigator in charge is mr. bob grits here at the incident command center on the new jersey side here in hoboken. we will were also joined today by our investigator who did the stakedown on the new york side at incident command center at pier 53 in manhattan, mr. luke schiata. our investigators have been working, those who were on scene throughout the day, with local responds conducting witness interviews and gathering additional information. the investigators that came down from d.c. are now at some of them are at teeterboro at the control tower, gathering records, radar information, any flight plans, reviewing air traffic control tapes for communication. additional investigators are out gathering information with respect to operations. they have talked to the fixed base operator the teeterboro airport where the saratoga was this evening -- this afternoon-they departed. we were advised that the saratoga did stop over at teeterboro and they brought a passenger on. they did not r

the new chairman of the ntsb tells us the probe could take longer than first thought. debbie hersman was the face of that investigation. like many members of the ntsb who live here and often ride metro, she says this one hits home. >> i have had the opportunity to meet with some of the families. just knowing the devastating impact that has gone on in the lives of parents and children, people who were loved very much. >> within minutes, debbie hersman was driving to the crash site from downtown office. she quickly became the of calm strong voice of the june 22 crash. sometimes at odds with local leaders. >> we need to be able to work towards a fleet with others, but we also need to be theruth tellers -- able to work cooperatively with others. >> we caught her moving into her new office as chairman of the ntsb. >> memories of 2006. >> she has been a board member for five years, but at 39, she is one of the youngest chairman ever. she says being the mother of three young boys keep sir focused on victims and families when tragedy strikes. as for metro, she vows this invest

what they need, the ntsb, and investigators will need pictures and video. we would like to help, too, if you have any pictures or video that you would like to share with us and then we will get it to the proper authorities, you can go to you report at fox news.com or send them to us on twitter at twitter.com/julie banderas. it is amazing how many people witnessed this thing and how many people took pictures and video and you would not believe how helpful those pictures and video are to investigators. >> there is the dramatic shot of the horrible, fatal collision, midair between a tourist chopper and a plane. it had three people on board, including a child and yet, we have not been told the age of that child. it left teterboro and we understand that it was heading toward ocean city, new jersey, at least that was their flight plan that was registered at teterboro. we heard from the mayor of hoboken and the mayor of new york city. we just received a statement from governor david patterson, which essentially -- of new york, which essentially reiterates what may

peter goals is the former managing director of the ntsb. peter, there is no question it will take investigators a bit of time to determine what happened and who was responsible in this crash. but it does raise the question about these, what is called by the ntsb on-demand flights. these helicopter tours, in particular. they have them in new york. they have them in hawaii. they have them across the country, grand canyon and such. the question is the rules are set to be lax from the ntsb. the rules are lack and i want you to tell me about those. they've done very little if nothing about it. what is the status? >> you're right. the ntsb has been concerned about the air-tour, on-demand air tours for close to 20 years. they have a higher accident rate than is really appropriate. part of that is because there is more take-off than landing, sho shorter flights, they fly close to the ground. they want a more spectacular view of the scenery they're looking at. there is limited oversight. the ntsb issued over a dozen recommendations to the faa to try

but we won't know as i said until, ntsb does their investigation. we will over the next hours remove the bodies from whether it is the helicopter or airplane that we have found. but at this point our paramount focus is on making sure that our divers are safe. we don't want them to make this tragedy any worse that in has already been. and we will continue looking for the other aircraft whichever one it is. there is not a lot else to say. i would be happy to take some questions. but nobody really knows any more than what i have just said. and so if you want few ato ask more, you will get the same answer. >> mr. mayor, can you as a pilot describe the airspace and how aircraft indeed have to navigate it? >> there is a corridor here where aircraft can fly uncontrolled by air traffic control. there is a common freak whence used. pilots that fly in this area all the time pretty much always use those frequencies to announce where they are and to listen to find out where other people are. and when they're going by 34th street. or wall street, the other place

. >> reporter: mayor bloomberg said he was confident the ntsb will find out what went wrong and what may need to change along the hudson river's crowded traffic corridor. the liberty tours euro helicopter had just taken off from the airport. the plane, a piper teterboro left from the jersey shore. there were no communication devices on the plane or the helicopter. ntsb investigators rely heavily on witness videos and photos like this one taken a split second after impact. the ntsb conducted private interviews with several crash witnesses, including chris. >> boom, right in front of my face. the helicopter basically starts disintegrating midair. >> we've received excellent cooperation from everybody on scene. we could not do our job without all of the support we've received from the local, state, and federal responders. >> reporter: crews will be back this morning to begin the process of getting it out and recovering the two remaining bodies. in hoboken, dave karlan for cbs news. >>> this morning folks are cleaning up after a cluster of strong thunderstorms rumbled across the upper mi

the post says the ntsb learn about all this just last week. the metro denies that. it is interesting because apparently there was no collusion, no injuries in march. we are told the metro is not required to report to the ntsb or any outside agency about what happened. >> very interesting. >>> you do want to be prepared for delays if you plan on riding the metro blue or yellow line. noble line trains will run -- note blue lines will run as they are replacing a switching station. >>> president obama arrives in mexico tonight for a summit among mexican -- among leaders. he will be joined by canadian prime minister stephen harper in guadalajara. they will discuss strategies for handling a second wave of the swine flu. the university of maryland plans to discuss swine flu vaccines beginning tomorrow. senior citizen volunteers will be screened. that will test the effectiveness of the experimental vaccine. >>> coming up at 6.30, new details about the cyber attack on twitter and facebook. and driver stealing more pain at the pump. services are held at that church attended b

the ntsb has concluded its on scene testing of the tracks and control room so starting next week metro will start repairing at the site of the june 22 accident. >> replacing the circuit, replacing the cables and any other repairs and upgrades. >> reporter: metro general manager john catoe says the good news is metro will start replacing track circuitry, including several thousand feet of cable and track and circuit- related hardware. that process is expected to take 30 days. the bad news? passengers will continue to experience delays on the redline. >> the trains reach that point in either direction, they have to slow up and slowly proceed through that segment. once we do these repairs, they will be able to operate normal schedule. >> reporter: to help passengers through the process, metro will assign additional workers to high volume redline stations during rush hour to assist with crowds. they will also distribute flyers to passengers getting on and off the trains. meanwhile the n.t.s.b. is still trying to figure out exactly what caused the accident. >> the ntsb has indicated in thei

right now the ntsb is working on recorrecting the accident sequence. the big questions are when did the pilots see each other and why not sooner? >> we will be looking at visibility, we're going to be looking at whether or not the positioning of the aircraft permitted one a see the other and the -- you know, the situational awareness of the pilots is important. the seating position what they were doing at the time, if there were distractions if they were communicating with others or air traffic control. all of they -- that will be a part of the investigation. >> nine people were killed in the crash. >>> the tragedy is sparking questions about aric traffic safety. surae chinn spoke with local pilots in this area. >> reporter: on a hot sunday afternoon the skies in maryland can get crowded. it is a day where pilots mainly use the visual flight rule of see and avoid. rules that david teaches in flight school. >> you can see out the sides and back. not many airplanes you can do that. >> reporter: the ntsb is investigating what caused the tragedy above the

ntsb knows at this point that if the plane that hit the helicopter according to authorities but they still don't know why. still pictures and amateur videotape we've been showing here, ntsb chair woman told me this morning will be incredibly helpful to them because it is going to give them an idea of how the plane and helicopter came apart. when you see the debris on top of the water. it is important to mention there are cameras up and down the hudson. they'll go through surveillance tapes to see if it was caught on tape to try to piece this together. >> how much do these photos that we're looking at right now help in the investigation? these are just amateur photos. >> they help greatly. they may be amateur photos but they -- doesn't matter if they're professional or amateur, frankly, they caught the moment of impact. you see one of the wings on the aircraft sheered off. that will be incredibly helpful because it tells them exactly what side of the plane was hit, that could tell them from there, they can back up the back story and figure out which angle each aircraft was coming from

we asked former ntsb official peter golds about other idea. flight attendant seats have shoulder straps. why not passenger seats? >> there is a neck know logical challenge to put in three point belts on all the seats. >> reporter: the ntsb once looked at equipping planes with smoke hoods for passengers. but mixed that. >> once you had a plane on the ground. if there was the threat of fire. we wanted everyone to be focussed on getting off the plane in 90 seconds or less. we did not want people fumbling around in their seats looking for a smoke hood to put it on. >> reporter: golds and marshal say the innovation that have made it into passenger planes over the past two decades have been crucial. >> they have redesigned the interior of the planes so that the materials used do not emit toxic gasses. when they're -- when they are burning or smoldering. >> we have improved the chance of survival by improving seat strength, by building airplanes that can with stand crash forces. >> reporter: an example of that that marshal's team cites in training --

obligated to put into effect any of the ntsb's recommendations.t is shocking, all they have to do, all this faa is obligated to do is consider the safety recommendations of the ntsb... >> gregg: and -- >> in a timely fashion, but they're the only ones with the power, gregg and under the law they don't even have to. it is totally discretionary and sadly, there is a really powerful lobby group, the aircraft owners and pilots association, a huge worldwide organization, that the fa is extremely deferential to and that group is against regulations and they are against restrictions and, they are out to make money and they are the ones who have the fa's ear, note nt intchlt and that is a sad state of affairs. >> julie: you said one case that you found in which the faa was sued and what was the outcome? >> i mean, surprisingly the court said there really isn't any showing the faa waived its immune and the court gave the faa a pass and it was a similar circumstance where there was a crash, similar to the one that we're talking about today. so, unless the f

the ntsb report does not state the cause of the crash. drivers witnessed the crash last thursday night. >>> the ntsb has finished testing the train control equipment at the site of june's deadly metro crash near washington d.c. opinion ntsb officials say they released the area between fort totten and tacoma stations. they will now begin replacing the tracks in the crash area. metro riders should continue to expect delays on the red line. >>> yesterday's storm in county was actually an ef0 tornado. it left a mile of destruction in its wake. luckily, no one was seriously hurt in the storm, but it was the worst damage this town has seen in more than a decade. >>> the national weather service says an ef1 tornado hit down in frederick county yesterday afternoon. >>> we have storms firing up around the state once again today as we head into the afternoon and evening hours. we are watching the storm right now. it is just passing into glen burnie. brooklyn park, lake shore all seeing rain out of this system. in fact in laurel at our storm center

>> what the ntsb will have to find that out.the door could have flown open and the currents are strong and would sweep the bodies out and the airplane downriver. it's important to reflect on the fact that a lot of people fly this vfr corridor without incident so while this is tragic, it's not something that people should get too upset about or worried about because historically, this has been a very safe operation. >> tom casey, author of "human errors and strangers." >> stay with us for continuing coverage. we'll have live reports for the very latest throughout the morning for you. >>> new this morning, the latest gallup poll shows president obama's current approval ratings slightly higher. the president's approval rating 58%, that number is up after hitting his administration's low point at 52%, more than a week ago. joining me live now is frank newport, editor in chief of "the gallup poll." good to see you this morning. >> thank you, good morning. >> can we put perspective, 52%, how does that look overall? this administration

they -- ntsb. they say in march, a subway operator had to use the emergency brakes to avoid hitting another train. a spokesperson for d.c.'s metro says that the incidents involved separate equipment. >>> well, a kitten is still struggling to survive after being tortured. jessica kartalija has more and this is the latest of the animal abuse cases in baltimore city. >> reporter: another brutal case of animal cruelty. witnesses saw the boys torturing the 8 month old kitten by throwing bricks on her. >> they caught her and poured a liquid on her and set her on fire. she was rolling around and got the fire out and they picked her up again and caught her on fire. >> reporter: she was burned on her side and back. she wandered for ten days. >> and her burns are on one side of the body, not all over the body. >> reporter: now, just a week later, she's getting much needed tlc. >> she's purring and she loves attention and to be petted. she's in no distress at all. we're watching to be sure that the infection

. >>> our top story the ntsb says seven bodies have been recovered from yesterday's midair collision between a private plane and a tour helicopter. both aircraft crashed into the hudson river. most of the helicopter was lifted out of the river today and recovery teams believe they have some positive hits that will allow them to recover parts of the plane. >> at 8:00 a.m. divers got back into the water. during the recovery efforts today they were able to recover most of the helicopter. the helicopter was removed from the water and has been taken to a pier for further examination. that helicopter was in water that was about 30 feet deep. the divers had extremely challenging conditions, with current and visibility at times one foot in front of them. >> the ntsb is asking anyone with video or pictures of the accident to come forward to help them figure out what happened. most of the italian tourists have left but some stayed behind to identify the dead. this is the city's worst air disaster since the crash in queens. >>> the tragic ending of a high-speed police chase is a somer reminder

according to ntsb investigators the u.s. department of transportation is pledging to take action on air safety. just asvo surfaces of saturday's small plane and chopper crash over the hudson that killed 9 people. >> we have a working group within a fa, that will look at what ntsb recommended in the past and look at other information and do as thorough a job we can. we're going take action. >> reporter: the secretary for the transportation department overseeing the ntsb and the faa said the panel will convene and make recommending as for better managing, crowded airspace for low-flying planes. jon corzine said one option is being considered. >> one of the things that the port authority of new york- newiers is working on is diversifying -- new jersey is working on is diversifying landing positions around the area, the air force base for one is being revisited a a -- as a potential site to loosen up traffic. >> reporter: this comes on the heels of disciplinary action of two air traffic controllers, following an investigation in

. >> the time is now 5:05 and the ntsb is reviving statements about when it learned of problems with metro's automated safety system. investigators learned just last week that the system used to prevent crashes failed in march but yesterday a metro employee spoke a day after the june 22nd crash that killed nine people. another crash was avoided march 2. we have an update now on a story we reported on yesterday. a metro train operator tested positive for drugs and did not lose his job. metro tells us it fires employees who fail a drug test the second time or are in a probationry period. they can enter rehab the first time. >> the washington examiner reports only 30% say they would vote for fenty again. 13% said no and the rest would consider someone else. a hotel across the street from the washington convention center is a step closer to reality. the mayor signed a bill yesterday that provides financing for a future hotel. it will create more than 1,000 jobs. some people protested during the bill signing. they are concerned that not enough d.c. residents will get those jobs. a half-fi

we are expected to have a briefing from ntsb investigators. they told us that we will be hearing more details once this wreckage is out of the water. theyle give us an update and we will bring that to you live as it happens. shannon? >> shannon: i know you probably have a tough time trying to see there with all the diff'rent watercraft there in the way. it looked to us and we got a little glimpse of what you mentioned is probably the wreckage of the helicopter being brought up on the larger side of the boat and we see the blocking from the closer boat, the blue and white. >> yes. >> shannon: there is wreckage they will still have a tough time finding, the small plane that was involved. i imagine the conditions were not ideal forgetting to the plane but at least they had success locating the helicopter. >> the current settled down from the river expect we have been talking to. he said that after 1:00, which it is now 1:05, it is going to pick up in the next few hours. so they are very much trying to find the small winged aircraft but so far the

late last night ntsb eene. scene. >> our team did talk to a witness to the accident today. it was another liberty helicopter pilot. he saw a small single engine aircraft approaching behind the helicopter. he radioed theptlier helicopter and told them, "you have a fixed wing behind you." there was no response from the pilot. he stated that he saw the right wing of the airplane contact the helicopter. >> reporter: this woman had tickets for that same helicopter tour and just missed that tragic flight. >> thanks to god, i think. because it's important. because we have a new chance in this life. >> reporter: this deadly collision happened at almost the exact spot as the miracle on the hudson. in january us airways flight 1549 made a splash landing here with 155 people aboard. >> this is not going to have a happy ending like when the

gleaned carefully by the ntsb.he ntsb this morning. they are asking for as clean of a copy as possible so they can scan it frame-by-frame. >> they've been concerned for a while, haven't they, about these tour operators, both helicopters and planes and have wanted some changes made and haven't had a whole lot of success? >> yes. the ntsb has been concerned about the -- several concerns. restrictions, air face restri restrictions or the lack thereof in the hudson river corridor. secondary, the ntsb has been concerned about the regulations that govern air tour operators. keep in mind, this was a sightseeing helicopter. the ntsb and the faa are inherently at odds with each other. that's the way the system is designed. the ntsb can't regulate anything, they can only call for safety advances. it's up to the faa to act. the ntsb and the faa are often at odds and yet again on this issue, they are looking at another issue that they have not always agreed on in the past. >> all right. tom, thanks so much. >>> two wildfires r

former ntsb investigator greg fith. >> the key here is that whatever took place in the cockpit of that piper aircraft was enough to distract the pilot and not allow him to see the helicopter as he intercepted its flight path. >> reporter: the video also captures the aftermath as boats race to the area where both went down only to find a few pieces of debris floating in the water. earlier today, in italy, the coffins of the five italian tourists who died in the crash returned home for burial, greeted by family, friends, and flowers. now investigators will closely examine this new tape to determine exactly how the plane and helicopter crashed. their altitude and position, in relation to each other. and how on a beautiful blue-sky day with thousand of people watching, two experienced pilots could have had a fatal encounter. this incident has raised concerns about the safety of the hudson river air corridor, a three-mile stretch of airspace in which pilots fly without air traffic control. if they're under 1,100 feet. the ntsb and faa both say they intend to look at whether more restriction

for more now on the crash, we're joined by former ntsb investigator greg feith. first off sources as you heard in jeff's report are saying the plane may have been in a climbing right turn at the time of the collision. will it be possible to tell if that turn was an attempt to avert the collision or perhaps the cause? >> i believe it will, lester. of course, the ntsb will be depending heavily on radar data and any communication the pilot may have had with teterboro or newark. they will be able to tell if that was an intentional turn to get on course to head to ocean city, new jersey. >> they have recovered the body of the helicopter. will investigators be able to figure out the angle of how the aircraft hit and determine if a pilot could have even seen each other? >> that's the importance of recovering the wreckage, lester. they're going to want to look for paint transfers. they will look for props slices on the helicopter. they're going to look for rotor marks on the fixed wing aircraft, so the wreckage is very important for investigators to try to understand wha

ntsb officials say they released the area between fort totton and tacoma stations back to metro. metro says it will now begin replacing the tracks near the crash area on the red line. metro riders should continue to expect delays on the red line. >>> in your money tonight, president barack obama says his stimulus plan has moved the economy away from a dangerous ledge and several signs, including the stock market, suggest the economic crisis may be easing. on wall street yesterday, the dow closed with the best month in nearly seven years. the nasdaq hasn't had a july as good since 1997. so could this be a signal the worst of the recession is over. the latest economic analysis shows 1% negative growth rate for the country, much less than was feared. many economists are now looking for growth in the second half of the year. though the forecast is for a slow, jobless recovery. >> we're probably in recovery, but if we are, it's most modern. it's a recovery that feels like a recession to most people. >> this week, the president will travel to elkhart, indiana, a depressed area of the c

>> well, of course, that's the purpose of the ntsb investigation. the board will look very closely at training, the experience of the pilot, the visual meteorology conditions at the time. and you will have to come with some conclusions. so it's certainly too early to tell, but that's the whole purpose of having an investigation is to try and determine if there are any changes that need to be made to make the system safer. >> the reason i ask you that, it's a very heavily congested area, it is a dense area. you've got newark international airport, laguardia, kennedy airport, teterboro, onned a on and on, westchester airport. so you have a lot of airports in the area. i want you to listen to new york city's mayor michael bloomberg. then i want your comment on it. >> i think it's really any place you see a lot of traffic together, that's not oppopositi controlled, you have to be careful. that's not for me to prejudge whether anybody did anything right or wrong, the only definitive toons your questions, will come from the national transportation safety

the ntsb chairwoman said investigators located the helicopter but have not yet found the plane. another helicopter pilot witnessed the collision. >> he saw a small single engine aircraft approaching behind the helicopter. he radioed the accident helicopter and told them one lima hotel, you have a fixed wing behind you. there was no response from the pilot. he stated that he saw the right wing of the airplane contact the helicopter. he saw helicopter parts and the right wing fall and both aircraft descended into the hudson river. >> all right, we are also hearing from eyewitnesses. >> seen a plane and helicopter looked like they collided. hit the water, the fellow was spinning around. >> it it appeared to be going this way. >> i saw a puff of smoke and the blade fly off. >> at this hour, police divers getting back in the water searching for the bodies not recovered. >> joining us is tom casey, flight instructor. >> good morning a lex. >> let's figure out how this happened. you have a helicopter ascending, you have a plane cruising in this area above the hudson river, a beautiful

investigators from the ntsb are now on-scene trying to figure out exactly how this happened. authorities know at this point is that at some point this small plane, a piper with three people aboard, including a child, rammed into the back side of this sightseeing helicopter over the hudson river. on that helicopter, a pilot and five tie titalian tourists. everyone involved believed to be dead. this is now a recovery effort and no longer a rescue mission. >> nbc's jeff rossen, thanks so much. >>> a police chase in central california ends with seven people dead including four children. police were in pursuit when the driver of the car went through a stop sign and crashed with a truck carrying a family. four children in the truck died, along with three people in that car. >>> eunice kennedy shriver remains in critical condition at a massachusetts hospital. shriver's daughter maria shriver and husband california governor arnold schwarzenegger are among the relatives at the hospital. the sister of president kennedy and founder of the special olympics has suffered several strokes. s

the ntsb says the plane had been handed off electronically to the next tower down the line in newark and then the plane disappeared from radar. the faa calls the conduct of the

>> well, we appreciate when ntsb accepts us as party status in these investigations.t out something that was erroneous, which really has created this media hype now. we want to get down to the root cause of what happened here. >> sure. >> so we make sure this never, ever happens again. i mean, that is the goal of the air traffic controllers. >> paul rinardi, good to have you with us tonight. appreciate it so much. executive director of the national air traffic controllers here on "the ed show." >>> looks like brett favre is going to be giving football one more try. coming out of retirement for the second timed -- third time, fourth time, i'm losing count. he's signed a two year, $25 million deal with the minnesota vikings. three weeks ago he said he was going to retire. instead, favre back with the vikings. he's going to be in uniform this weekend. he arrived in st. paul earlier and was greeted by coach brad childress and pumped-up fans. a few hours later put out on the practice field. now favre had some problems lately. he faded big-time the end of the season. and th

>> there are obviously different groups will be doing different things in the ntsb. there will be an air traffic group formed which will look at the air traffic situation. the flight out of teterboro, what kind of vacations are on atc tapes. they will look at radar. if there is radar that shows these aircraft. obviously, there are people that are concerned with the wreckage, and the analysis of the wreckage. that's going to give a very accurate picture of who hit whom howe at what angles, etc. but they will look at the pilots record, they will look at both aircraft. they will look at maintenance records of the aircraft. so there will be a pretty substantial team from the ntsb broken up into different categories. >> julie: i'm sorry i don't want to cut you off area please continue. >> sometimes you have a weather group as well but in this case they probably won't worry about that one comment on the exclusive photos that we can put those up on the aftermath of the crash, because this picture speaks minds, especially for a professional iq. when you see the picture, if w

. >> and what one woma what one >>> the chairman of the ntsb tells us that an investigation may be taking longer than originally thought. >> we hear some of the reasons why. >> not only is a challenging, but it is personal for the members of the ntsb because they live here. many of the investigators ride the metro every day. one woman says that this one hits home. >> i had the opportunity to meet with some of the families, and knowing the devastating impact that has gone on in the lives of parents and children. people were loved very much people -- very much. >> she quickly became the column, strong voice of that june 22 redline crash. sometimes at odds with locals. >> we also need to be the truth tellers, and we need to hold up a mirror and say, this is what we are seeing. sometimes it is not good. >> we caught up with her today moving into her new office as chairman of the ntsb. >> these were some memories from 2006. >> she has been a board member for five years. at 39, she is one of the youngest chairman ever. being the mother of three young boys keeps are focused on the victims and fa

. >>> and the ntsb will investigate the cause of the accident. meanwhile, back in maryland, two are killed in carroll county this morning and late this afternoon, the names of the victims were released. let's go live to mike hellgren. mike? >> reporter: adam, the pilot lived at this home behind me and he had two children, the neighbors say. >> reporter: the blue plane sits nose first near this air park and it crashed around 7:30 this morning and the authorities say that the experienced pilot and a passenger died on impact. >> it's not for us to speculation on what may have caused this at this time. that's for the experts. >> reporter: the engeneral and propeller are behind the pilot. it's a light sport, it's lightweight and that mean that is the ntsb won't investigate, but the faa will. it's unfortunate. it was a quick response by all of the agencies and it was just one of the instances where nothing could be done. >> reporter: the medical examiner ordered the bodies taken to baltimore and the pilot knew the area well. he rented a hanger there. >

the head of the ntsb joins us live from the crash site. where are we in the investigation right now? what do you know? >> well, we've only been on scene for about -- well, less than 24 hours so we've got a lot of work ahead of us. we have gotten some very good information from witness interviews as well as some footage from still photos. we have really got to put together the sequence of events, know exactly where these aircrafts were, what the altitude was, what communications took place. the control tower late last night trying to put together some radar data and other information, we're going to get together in about an hour and go through what we found. >> what do you think will be the most vital piece of information? i know you're close to reporter susan candiotti. you may have overheard there are specific channels for radio contact along that corridor. are those channels recorded anywhere? will that be something you'll be able to dig into? >> we're looking very closely at any air traffic control communications that might have occurre

the ntsb said one witness said another helicopter pilot who radioed a warning to his fellow pilot but it was too late. moments later, hundreds, if not thousands of people, saw the heartstopping horror unfold before their eyes. in seconds, the wreckage sank to the bottom of the hudson almost as if nothing had happened. let's go right now straight to the scene. susan candiotti. she has been on this story since it broke. susan? >> reporter: don, at this hour and over my shoulder, a police guard cutter and other police boats are guarding the spot where the plane went down. and for now above, air space is restricted to all over traffic for the time being. as the sun set, divers who could barely see in the mercury waters of the hudson promised to resume work in the morning, painstakingly looking for victims and wreckage in up to 50 feet of water. >> the ability to see is very limited. two to three feet at most. >> reporter: on a bright, sunny day it was hard to understand why a small plane and sightseeing helicopter shook a line over the hudson river. the smael plane with one pilot, two pas

the "washington post" reported the ntsb didn't find out until last week. today, the ntsb confirmed metro did tell investigators promptly after the june collision between two trains. >> our records indicate that an employee notified the ntsb on june 23rd, the day after the accident at fort totten. >> reporter: metro says because the incident on march 2nd happened at low speeds this was not a close call as the post reported. the train operator prevented a collision with the train about 500 feet away by hitting the emergency stop button. >>> an unrelated incident, this one deadly, has led to metro to order a safety stand down. a unack worker was hit and killed ba avgrel spreader sunday on e orange line. the safety stand down means for the next four days most feackers will focus saon ty procedures and put maintenance work on hold. metro said this should not affect passenger service. >>> it is time for another living smart report. and those overdraft fees the banks are charging you are proving profitable but it is at your expense. jessica doyle is here to show

again, we have to wait for findings from the ntsb. they have an incredible amount of evidence in this case, photographs and film and video apparently taken by tourists and others on the shore. i think they'll be able to piece this together much more quickly than they would if they were just dealing to clopost-sent evidence from the debris of the aircraft. i think we're going to have to wait and find out. but it appears there was no visual contact except from the shore and it was too late to get the word to the helicopter pilot to get out of the way. >> what about the fact that the reports are this plane may have been climbing, it was approaching that altitude of 1,100 feet, at which point the faa would have been in the control of them. it was making a turn. given that scenario and what you know of things, is that a problem? is it the climbing, the turning? is the focus not on what's around you so much or -- that you're looking upward? >> well, no, again, it depends on the overenteration of the aircraft and which direction. again, any

the ntsb is releasing deal tails about the tragedy on the hudson. we have the latest for wjz news from new york. >> reporter: paramedics rushed to the hudson river but there was to one to treat. >> there is a big puff of smoke and a couple of seconds after. >> reporter: the sound of a plane in and a helicopter colliding and plunging into the river. this is provided by fox shows the collision that severed one of the wings. rescuers realized there was no hope for the people on board. >> i think it is fair to say this has changed from a rescue to a recovery mission. >> reporter: five italians were touring by air on the helicopter. this woman saw some of the relatives at a heliport. >> they said to me there are relatives inside the helicopter. >> reporter: the plane left the airport in new jersey with three people op board, including a child. another helicopter pilot on the ground saw the plane moving toward the chopper. he tried to radio them to warn them but it was not enough to prevent the accident. the collision sent debris into the river and on to

. >> the ntsb has oversight power? >> no, that is only after an accident. >> the ntsb only make recommendations. who else? >> i don't know, the watches? >> it is the tri-state oversight committee, six members. the committee was informed about the march incident but according to the news, whether it was a widespread issue has been limited. metro says an on-train warning system failed. the june crash was caused by a faulty track circuit. both are part of metrobus pollution prevention system. >> i am more than concern. >> concerned enough to give up on metro? >> i can't. how can i get to work? >> they are asking if the oversight committee is not giving answers, who can make sure that metro is on track? >>> three firefighters were overcome by the heat while battling a house fire in the district. food cooking on the stove sparked the planes produced in the 700 block of third street in northeast last night. fire gutted the home, displacing two families. one person escaped but three firefighters -- firefighters were treated o

most of the chopper was plucked yesterday and the ntsb says it was close to intact. alert witnesses on both shores, the new york and new jersey sides of the river, caught the crash on their cameras. and the ntsb says their quick action is helping them piece together exactly what happened. >> we've had some very good information from eyewitnesses. we have some footage, some pictures that you all have seen that shows immediately after the collision some of the break-up sequence and the two aircraft actually falling towards the hudson river. >> investigators are looking into whether high levels of air traffic over the hudson factored into the crash. >>> a probate hearing is under way right now concerning michael jackson's estate. his mother catherine wants to become a co-executor along with john bronco and john mcclain. court documents indicate the singer'ses mate could be worth as much as $500 million but the actual current worth is about $100 million. court filings show branca and mcclain have received $5.5 million from his former financial adviser. they've taken poss

the ntsb in charge of the investigation. so far officials have only located the helicopter wreckage. >> they're using sonar to locate the airplane. >> reporter: the victims, a pilot and five italian tourists onboard the tour helicopter. on the plane, the pilot and two passengers, including a child. soon after the crash, officials say it was clear no one could have survived. >> this has changed from a rescue to a recovery mission. >> reporter: it was a clear day with flying conditions nearly ideal. investigators say the helicopter, owned by liberty tours, took off from the manhattan heliport. the small plane departed teeth boro airport in new jersey. witnesses say it appeared the plane clipped the hecopter's tail. >> i seen debris come flying down. >> went right in and there was a splash and it was completely submerged and there was nothing else. >> reporter: the ntsb says the pilot of another liberty helicopter refueling at the heliport tried to warn his colleague. he radioed the accident helicopter and told him one lima hot