on behalf of the ntsb and all the men and women that ntsb we want to extend our deepest condolencess. we are charged by congress to investigate all u.s. civil aviation accidents as well as major significant accidents in other modes, rail, highway, marine and pipeline. our job is not just to determine the probable cause but issue safety recommendations so these accidents are prevented in the future. we arrived at 9:30 a.m. this morning so we have little new information. what i can tell you is that we know on april 10, 2014, 5:40 p.m. in orland california a fedex truck with two semi trailers southbound on i-5, it left the southbound lanes and crossed a 60-foot median. it struck a motor coach traveling north bound on i-5. the impact stopped the forrered motion of the motor coach and -- forward motion of the motor coach and both vehicles directed off the highway. a fire ensured. the motor coach was carrying high school students and they were traveling to humboldt state university. there has been a lot of discussion about the fact it was part of a convoy of three us buses. -- three buses.

so as we've been talking about the ntsb looking at a number of safety issues. we will hear more from the ntsb coming up in our next report at the bottom of the hour. for now reporting live from enloe medical center in chico, patrick healy, for "today in the bay." >> thank you very much, patrick. >>> we'll speak with you in just a couple minutes about the ntsb investigation as well. see you in just a few. >>> this is the news the family was fearing, confirmation that the missing twin on board the burned bus is one of the people who were killed. devastating for the family who waited nearly a full day for confirmation. a coroner used dental records to identify marisa serrato. she and her twin marysol were rarely apart but on this trip they chose to ride on separate buss. both sisters were accepted to several colleges but they wanted to go to the same school. they skipped their prom to take that tour of humboldt state together. >>> also on board that bus, a couple engaged to be married. michael mcmyvet and madison haywood were on the trip as chaperones. this past c

before i go any further, on behalf of the ntsb and all the men and women at ntsb, we want to extend our deepest condolences to the family and friends of those who lost their lives and were injured in this tragic crash. we are charged by congress to investigate all u.s. civil aviation accidents, as well as major significant accidents in other modes including rail, highway, marine, and pipeline. our job is not just to determine the probable cause but to issue safety recommendations so these type of accidents are prevented in the future. we've arrived at 9:30 this morning so we have little new factual information. what i can tell you is that we know on april 10th, 2014, at about 5:40 p.m., in orland, california, a fed ex truck tractor with two semi trailers wa southbound on i-5. it left the southbound lanes and crossed what is about a 60-foot median. it then struck a motor coach that was traveling northbound on i-5. the impact stopped the forward motion of the motor coach and then both vehicles were redirected easterly off the highway. a post-crash fire ensued. and we can tell you the moto

obviously this is not the role of the ntsb. we did not investigate or have information about these accidents but we will be looking in the ongoing investigations and issues associated with recalls. that has been going on for some time. so if we have comments or insights we can provide to improve the process, we will do that. but when the ntsb put out its list in 2012, it called on the government to mandate to ologies that can intervene and motor vehicles to prevent collisions. no mandate was issued but the recommendation dropped from the most wanted list in 2013. are you satisfied the government industry is moving quickly enough? >> no. the government and industry need to move quicker. we mentioned dirty thousands of talent is that occur every year and does occur for many different reasons. many of them have their fruit and human details -- human failure. distraction, fatigue, and impairment. but at the end of the day, what will it take to reduce crashes? what we have seen in aviation is technology holds the key to reducing the

alan deal, former ntsb investigator.he on multinational search, joining us on the phone, dr. alan deal, former ntsb investigator.e on t multinational search, joining us on the phone, dr. alan deal, former ntsb investigator. on th multinational search, joining us on the phone, dr. alan deal, former ntsb investigator.on the multinational search, joining us on the phone, dr. alan deal, former ntsb investigator. the author of air safety investigate the tors, using science to save lives one crash at a time. dr. deal, thanks for being here. how does science play in this investigation? >> well, we've certainly seen a lot of science displayed, whether the doppler shift on the satellite handshake operation, clearly we don't -- this is still reported and not confirmed, so i guess you'd say we're cautiously optimistic. but obviously science is going to play a big factor especially if it does turn out to be correct as we get the black boxes up. >> and if that does happen, where to next? >> well, i think the sequence it will go, and

obviously, this is not the role of the ntsb.we didn't investigate or have information about these accidents, but we will be looking in many of our ongoing investigations at some issues associated with recalls. and that has been going on for some time, and so if we have comments or inside that we can provide to improve the process, we will do that. >> with the ntsb put out its most wanted list in 2012, it called upon the government to mandate technologies that can intervene in motor vehicles to prevent collisions. no mandate was issued but this recommendation dropped from the most wanted list in 2013. are you satisfied that the government and the industry are moving quickly enough to? >> no. [laughter] the government and industry need to move quicker. we mentioned the 30,000 fatalities that occur every year, and those occur for different reasons. many of them have their roots in human failure. distraction, fatigue, impairment. but at the end of the day, what is it going to take to reduce the crashes? what we've seen in aviation i

the ntsb released this picture today showing investigators looking at the charred remains of the bus.he ntsb says it will determine whether a fire supression system that is recommended but not required for buses, would have made a difference. >> the bus was fill with students from the los angeles area. the crash happened near orland on interstate 5 just west of chico. they were four hours short of their destination. a college preview weekend at humboldt state university. investigators will review whether a stretch of freeway should have had a barrier in the median. >>> we are learning more about the moments leading up to the horrific bus crash that killed the students and staff. going to humboldt state university. the wreckage is again. and now friends and family are sharing memories of the ten victims, and the ntsb is pouring through records. >>> the last charred and mangled remnantses of the terrible collision have been cleared from this california highway and taken away. they are now the subject of intense examination by government investigators that could take months. >> we'll be

killed ten people in glenn county and appears that the driver fedex didn't hit the brakes and the ntsb says tire marks show how the bus driver tried to avoid the collision with the big rig, but there were no brake marks from the fedex truck either on the median or lanes of i-5 where that fiery accident took place. both drivers were killed thursday. authorities say their blood will be tested for any evidence of drugs or alcohol. the bus' black box electronic control module was recovered. the one for the fedex truck was too badly burned. >> our investigators plan to remove the transmission and tell the gear that the truck tractor was in to give us a speed range that occurred prior to the crash. >>> five of the victims on bus were high school students, three were adult chaperones and appears some of those eld were ejected from the bus. . >> a couple whose rental king 5 was clipped by the fedex big rig told investigators that they saw flames coming from the cab of that truck before the accident. listen now as they describe their terrifying close call. >> i looked over and saw the fedex tru

the ntsb will now be looking at every aspect of this crash.h survivors and trying to figure out whether mechanical issues or human error played a role in the accident. >> we are interested in anything from this accident that could have some sort of national impact. our job at the ntsb is to investigate and determine the probable cause. it's determining the why not just the what. and then the most important thing we can do is issue recommendations so these kind of accidents don't happen again >> reporter: the head of the l.a. unified school district did confirm that some students from the district were a part of that trip but there is still quite a bit to sort out. the chp says at this point it's really unclear exactly what caused the driver of that fedex big rig to lose control and cross into on coming traffic on i-5 triggering this deadly wreck yesterday afternoon. both lanes of i-5 in that area do remain closed as chp investigators continue to gather evidence out there. they are again waiting for federal investigators to arrive at that scene

obviously this is not the role of the ntsb. we did not investigate or have information about these accidents but we will be looking in the ongoing investigations and issues associated with recalls. that has been going on for some time. so if we have comments or insights we can provide to improve the process, we will do that. but when the ntsb put out its list in 2012, it called on the government to mandate to ologies and motorntervene vehicles to prevent collisions. no mandate was issued but the recommendation dropped from the most wanted list in 2013. are you satisfied the government industry is moving quickly enough? >> no. the government and industry need to move quicker. we mentioned dirty thousands of talent is that occur every year and does occur for many different reasons. many of them have their fruit and human details -- human failure. distraction, fatigue, and impairment. but at the end of the day, what will it take to reduce crashes? what we have seen in aviation is technology holds the key to reducing the accident t

that ntsb has a team here investigating the investigate. the man in charge has over 22 years of investigative experience and his teams will be examining six different areas including highway features and design, human performance, the two motor carriers, survival factors, the vehicle, and fire safety. >> we're watching an official from the ntsb. they are conducting the beginnings of a press conference in red bluff right now trying to assess yesterday's accident. their "go" team is on the ground and they -- as he say, they will be looking at six different categories in their investigation. we're going to let him finish and get back to the news and get back to what he had to say in just a minute. >>> one of the survivors took to twitter before, during and after the crash. his name is jonathan gutierrez. he started by tweeting there photo inside the bus with the caption, 11 to 12 hours in here. obviously referring to how long it's taken them to drive up from l.a. then several hours later, he escaped the explosion and posted this picture of the

the ntsb just wrapped up a news conference 40 minutes ago. they will be on site for 1-2 weeks collecting hard evidence and witness statements about the crash. again, 10 people are confirmed dead, including two of the students achap roan whose just -- chaperons who just got engaged. >> the crash happened at 5:30 p.m. last night. ktvu's cristina rendon is in the area and joins us now from red bluff where the ntsb gave us an update on the investigation this afternoon. >> reporter: board member says it will take time for investigators to figure out what happened but right now the focus of the investigation is finding out perishable information, those are things like witness statements because people's memory could get soggy as time passes. they were at the crash site today and they were tasked with a number of things at the scene. [ audio difficulties ] >> all right. we apologize. we lost the audio. i can continue on. the ntsb, they are there. the go team arrived at 9:30 a.m. this morning. they will be looking at the medical conditions, the work,

. >>> the ntsb press conference wrapped up about 30 minutes or so ago. no surprises certainly, the ntsb want to find out what caused this crash and to figure out whether there's any federal policy that they need to adjust. here's an excerpt. >> over the coming days, our investigators are going to focus on gathering factual information. they're especially focused on perishable kinds of information that can literally be hardware but also things like witness reports and memories. so we're aft perishable information that's really only going to be available while we're here on scene. >> reporter: now the ntsb is teaming up with the chp to try to map and diagram the scene. the question is how long would it take. this patch of grass next to northbound i-5 has been torched. a visible reminder of where one bus crash victim escaped and screamed for help but couldn't extinguish the flames on his back. >> i tried to spray the water hose on him but i can't. >> reporter: the reality is a grim one for those affected by the collision. ten deaths. nearly three dozen inju

the ntsb has now opened its own investigation. the agency says it will be looking for a control module that could give the investigators more information like if the tracker trailer slammed on their breaks. cristina rendon has more. >> reporter: this has been an overwhelming experience. orland's high school message is one that goes throughout the community. >> as soon as i saw the crash, i knew the red cross would have been called. >> i don't know how to explain it but as soon as something happens the whole community turns out. >> reporter: cody was greeted with a huge hug from his family. hoyde -- hoyte was in the back of the bus and escaped through a window. investigators are trying to identify the victims. among the confirmed dead. arzola a university recruiter. chaperone michael mevit and his fiance. >> the response from the community when an event like this happens has been overwhelming. >>> the kindness isn't going unnoticed. students at the red cross shelter couldn't leave without thanking the people of glen county for thei

officials from the ntsb traveling from washington, dc, expect to be on the scene this afternoon. the fiery crash killed ten people, five teens, three adult chaperones and the two droves. it happened at 5:30 in the afternoon. the teens were from los angeles. they were on the way to visit humboldt college. the ntsb said it is important to get to the evidence as quickly as possible. >> it is critical our investigation is to get on the scene and collect our own information as soon as possible because of the perishable information. and that is everything that could be from the vehicles, to memory of what happen in the accident. >> 30 people were hurt in the crash. some are critical. one teen said that he and 40 others survived by jumping from the back window. the bus was full of smoke and it was difficult to see and breeze. investigators say the fedex truck crossed the center median, sideswiped a car and crashed head on into the tour bus. now they are trying to figure out, why in they do expect to give updates when they get to the scene. >> a survive talked about the experiment on soc

ntsb investigators about to give an update. the crash killed ten people, five were high school students in l.a. >>> i'm terry mcsweeney. diane dwyer is off. more breaking news out of marin county. search teams found a woman's body in the same area where a missing woman went hiking two weeks ago. the identity of the body has not been confirmed. monty francis joinss us live with more on that. >> reporter: searchers found that body at about 9:30 this morning. i just got off the phone with the sheriff's department. i'm told the body had clothing similar to the clothing that the hiker was wearing when she disappeared. search teams return this morning after a runner called in a tip saying that he thinks he saw her on the day she disappeared. he said he spotted her on the hiking tour about a mile from the camp ground where security cameras captured her about to go on a hike. they discovered a woman's body at the bottom of this deep ravine. >> the body was located in a very remote rugged area drainage off what might be considered one o

mike rose is an ntsb investigator. good morning. >> good morning. >> you were on the scene yesterday. you've been at this a number of years. based on your expertise and what you saw yesterday, give us a sense, did anything stand out to you? >> we're still in the earliest stages of collecting our factual information. we have six different groups looking at a wide variety of area. we were on scene at 9:30 am yesterday for the first time, came from washington at 1:30. of course, the highway was already cleared by then. we're still in the early phases of that factual information. i will say we're focused on collecting what's perishable right now to make sure we have everything we possibly can for now. >> we heard janet mention at the top of her report that there's now this eyewitness who has come forward with a conflicting report about the fire. the chp said they believe the blaze after the truck struck the bus. this couple saying they were sideswiped by the fedex truck and that it was already on fire, that the fire appear

the ntsb has now opened its own investigation. the agency says it will be looking for a control module that could give the investigators more information like if the tracker trailer slammed on their breaks. cristina rendon has more. >> reporter: this has been an overwhelming experience. orland's high school message is one that goes throughout the community. >> as soon as i saw the crash, i knew the red cross would have been called. >> i don't know how to explain it but as soon as something happens the whole community turns out. >> reporter: cody was greeted with a huge hug from his family. hoyde -- hoyte was in the back of the bus and escaped through a window. investigators are trying to identify the victims. among the confirmed dead. arzola a university recruiter. chaperone michael mevit and his fiance. >> the response from the community when an event like this happens has been overwhelming. >>> the kindness isn't going unnoticed. students at the red cross shelter couldn't leave without thanking the people of glen county for thei

mayor and i am understanding that the ntsb hearing will be held on june 24th back in washington, d.c.. and following that hearing, will be the release of their report. >> thank you. >> and in regards to security, yes, obviously, that is something that when we see and something in the industry happen like that, and we go back, and we relook at our security plans and our security poster and we have done that at the airport. and so far, we actually had a meeting that my boss went to yesterday with all of the airport security coordinaters in the airports in the western region and we spoke and talked about the common practices and security poster and we worked closely with the tsa and we have f.b.i. presence at the airport and we are going to convene with those stake holders early next week and we have obviously sent out some information in the process of sending out some information to all of our stake holders at the airport to insure that awareness is increased, and we have layers of security, and at the airport, and you know, in addition to our fence lines, we have personnel and camera

the ntsb says there is no evidence to indicate it was on fire beforehand but at this point they won't rule out anything out and look into everything. >> thank you, cate caugiran. >>> developing news in san jose. a baby was found dead inside a car. police say the father had brought the 9-month-old infant to his work on payne avenue near san tomas expressway yesterday morning. he was supposed to drop the child off to the babysitter's but he forgot. the baby was in the car. when the father returned to his car at the end of the shift, the baby was unresponsive. no arrests have been made. >>> a driver in serious condition this afternoon after a possible dui crash in san jose shortly after midnight on almaden expressway and coleman avenue. two cars were involved. both drivers were rushed to the hospital. it's not clear what happened but officers originally reported that one of the drivers had died. they have since clarified that saying the man suffered life- threatening injuries. >>> we have new details at noon now. we now know the name of the person killed in a boating accident last night

. >>> the ntsb is leading the investigation much the other plane in the crash was able to land safely. amy hollyfield joins us with the latest on the search. >> ntsb investigator got on the scene this morning to figure how what happened. the coast guard is still on the water trying to figure out where the pilot is, if they can find him. still no sign of it although the search is 19 hours old. they say the average person could survive in the waters for 17 hours. they have not called it off. the coast guard has a cutter and helicopter out there. there are no divers in the water. they say it is not safe because they have a poet in the water. no divers in. according to the f.a.a. two plans part of the same crew crashed in midair at 4:00 yesterday afternoon over the san pablo bay. one plane spiraled out-of-control and landed in the water. the harbor master was out here yesterday and he is here again this morning and he is distraught that all of the people would were trying so hard couldn't help that pilot. he is still hoping for a miracle today but he says searching out there is tough. >>

the ntsb says there are no signs the truck tried to stop before it hit the bus. >> there's no indication of tire marks from breaking in the median or in the northbound lanes. the bus we were able to actually measure 175 feet of preimpact tire marks. when you subtract, the 30 feet of the bus that gives us 145 feet of tire marks, including evasive maneuvers. >> we have a reporter at that news conference and we'll have a lot more on results tonight at 6:30. >> the chp spoke to a couple this morning whose car was hit by the fedex truck before it slammed into the bus. cbs reporter, tom today spoke to witnesses who are still shaken about what they saw. >> i feel like this town is not going to be quite the same. >> he heard the explosion, saw the fire, and the aftermath. today, john came back to the scene of the crash to pay his respects. a small memorial is now growing along the roadside. the depth of the tragedy is still almost too raw for words. >> we heard the explosions and saw the smoke. at that time, we didn't realize the total horrific nature of exactly what had happened. my wife and i,

know what i mean there was no like tire flat nothing like that. >> reporter: sunday afternoon the ntsb mark rosekind told reporters investigators are looking into both accounts. >> our fire expert reviewed the median and highway and found no physical evidence of fire before the impact. nothing is ruled out yet. >> reporter: the ntsb has located the bus's black box but has not yet downloaded the data. the one on the fedex truck was destroyed in the collision. a preliminary report is due in 30 days. sources tell cbs news the bus company has now fired a san francisco based law firm and its own investigators. jeff? >> jeff: mark, thank you very much. of the 43 high school kids on the bus, 34 were injured. they were supposed to tour humboldt state university. today teri okita caught up with a passenger, a survivor now considered a hero. >> reporter: you can remember that truck coming right at you. >> yeah, yeah. >> 18-year-old miles hill was sitting near the front of the bus. the horror that followed remains vivid. >> i have really bad nightmares about it, every time i close my eyes i hear

ntsb team will arrive this morning.bc7 news reporter amy hollyfield has a report with the latest in a few minutes. >> miami police are clarifying the nature of their investigation at a hotel party involving kaepernick and two other players. it does not say a crime was committed. right now it is an "incident report." >> the woman who claims to be raped by an off-duty san jose police officer reported this only after she was arrested these week later on drunk driving charges curing to the san jose mercury news. the 38-year-old officer has not entered a plea. >> we now have an estimate on how much it will confident to rescue a san diego family with a sick child off the coast of mexico which is completed. san diego says the rice -- price came to $663,000. the family arrived open shore on wednesday. >>> a sailor rescued after going overboard in the middle of a yacht race in the pacific will dock in san francisco any minute. the 46-year-old andrew tailor was in the water for 90 minutes. >> a foggy and gray start to the commute

>> i am absolutely encouraged that the ntsb is involved. i have been somewhat outspoken about my, the fact that i've been less than impressed with the malaysian, particularly, initially, management of the investigation. so i hope that -- that they now and they apparently are now, taking advantage of the resources that are not available to them, but are available to a lot of other people. >> bob francis. thanks so much for your expertise. appreciate it. >> you're welcome. >>> all right. straight ahead, who is paying for this massive search? first, violence escalates in eastern ukraine. all that, next. wow, this hotel is amazing. oh no. who are you? who are you? wrong answer. wait, daddy, this is blair, he booked this room with priceline express deals and saved a ton. yeah, i didn't have to bid i got everything i wanted. oh good i always do. oh good he seemed nice. express deals. priceline savings without the bidding. without standard leather. you are feeling exhilarated with front-wheel drive. you are feeling powerful with a 4-cylinder engin

right new, the ntsb is holding a news conference in washington, dc.igate what went wrong here. we will have a report from the scene in 15 minutes. >> we are going to stream the ntsb news conference on abc7news.com. >> president obama will officially announce the resignation of embattled him and human services secretary kathleen sebelius in charms of the affordable care act and endured intense criticism after the rollout of healthcare.gov and sour say that sebelius approached president obama last month to tell him she wanted to step down. officials say the president will nominate another woman who directs the office of management and budget. >>> former secretary of state hillary clinton wrapped up a file city speaking tour at san jose state. people are asking if she is going to run wherever she goes. but hillary clinton isn't spilling the bones just -- beans just yet. >> the excited crowd greeted hillary clinton. her focus was mostly on women and the need if equality. >> all most women need a fighting chance. >> the fee may audience listened intently a

the ntsb is asking for more witnesses to come fogward. coming up in 30 minutes, we'll hear from one of the survivors and why the 18-year-old says he disagreed with that couple's account. >>> more details now, ntsb officials say they could be on scene of the crash for up to two weeks collecting evidence but it may be up to a year before they release their analysis and recommendations. among the questions they'll try to answer, whether a barrier in the middle of the freeway could have stopped that crash, and whether seat belts would have saved lives. plus, they're looking into whether a fire suppression system might have helped. the ntsb recommended that fire systems be installed in buses snar to the sprinkler systems in high-rise buildings. >> stay with nbc bay area for the latest on the bus crash coverage. when we're not on the air, head to nbcbayarea.com for up to the minute news. >>> investigators are trying to figure out what led to the death of a peninsula hiker whose body was found yesterday. magdalena glinkowski went for a hike two

the ntsb starts briefing with families the first night they are there and they make a commitment the first day that information will released to the public will be released to the families first. they establish a level of trust. the malaysians haven't been able to do that. is this going to be a very difficult briefing and i think family members will come out and report on it completely and the malaysians will take that into account and not be completely candid. >> they won't be happy, i assume the chinese families who have come from china to malaysia because they are not goils to get satisfaction with what they hear and maybe because malaysians themselves don't know what's going on. >> the malaysians won't be briefed and are already complaining the only information they learn typically is from the media, not from their own government. now you have the chinese getting preferential treatment and the other 13 or 14 countries, the victims on that flight being ignored. again we'll see how this plays out tomorrow. but, you know, it's questionable. >> i suspect there will be more frustratio

. >> figuring out what caused the deadly crash could take the ntsb weeks, maybe even months. tonight we are learning more about the victims. ten people died and so many others were hurt. the crash happened yesterday about 100 miles north of sacramento on i-5. the tour bus headed to hums be boldt state. the truck was on fire before it hit the median crashing in to the bus. five people killed high school students on a college tour. ntsb investigators will look at what could have been done to stop the fire on)9ñ the bus and whether there should have been a barrier or median on that stretch of highway. nbc bay area cheryl hurd is joining us live with an interview only on nbc bay area. this could be a game changer. >> reporter: it could indeed. this couple has quite a story to tell. it literally sent chills down my spine. they were heading down i-5 when the fedex truck was heading their way. that truck sideswiped their car. listen to their story. lucky to be alive tonight. >> if it had been three inches over, i bet it would have ripped -- i probably wouldn't be here and even a lit

we should also note there is a huge shortage of ntsb rail investigators., there are currently 20 investigations and only 10 investigators on staff right now, bill. >> so the ntsb is investigating a certain type? >> it's called a dot 111 tank car. the ntsb chief says they're simply not safe enough to be carrying hazardous materials. the problem is, those tank cars make up seven out of ten of every tank car that's active in the united states. in fact, those tank cars were the ones you mentioned earlier, that catastrophe in canada? those are the tank cars that were used in that. but the ntsb chief says the cars need to be retrofitted or removed all together. sometimes money trumps safety. h listen to her. >> that people will be driven by money. there are a lot of recommendations we have issued that have not gone anywhere because the cost benefit doesn't support them. and so it does come down to money. >> yeah. big problem with the dot 111 is they do not do very well under the pressure of derailment. there are more than 225,000 of these cars actively on the tr

that includes today's updates from the ntsb.just look under hot topics. >>> a man tried to open a plane door in mid-flight. a sacramento based television producer was on board today's flight and took video of the man being removed from the plane in omaha nebraska. witnesses say they heard screaming from the back of the plane while it was on its way from chicago to sacramento. producers saw what the man was trying to do and they reached in to subdue him. >> back to the fight or flight. you're either going to cower, freeze or your adrenaline is going to rush and you're going to go for it. >> reporter: the lady says people were so afraid by the man's actions people were crying and fainting. the plane pleaded to sacramento without incident. >>> a man walked into a retirement and left three people dead. some witnesses heard the man shooting hitler and smiling as he was taken out. while others were rehearsing a production of to kill a mocking bird. >> it was really scary. people were calling their loved ones. i kind of couldn't help b

ntsb is looking at proposals to enhance fire and safety. >> around the world, that stories that matter on kpix 5 news this morning. >> everybody in this ballpark is going crazy. >> good monday morning everyone. april 14 is here. i'm frank mallicoat. >> i'm michelle griego. it's 6:00. let's check in for a morning commute. >> we're off to a good start. mass transit, no delays anywhere you are going. systemwide on time, left the stockton area. problems varies and cal train look good. and no official word yet but they turned down the metering lights at the bay bridge. the fast track ones fill in and looks like all the lanes are back up to the 880 and growing. now the bay bridge metering lights turn on. the commute is definitely under way and the east shore freeway, it looks great right now from richmond straight into berkeley. carlson and you can see everything moving at the speed limit. the drive time is hovering around 19 or 18 minutes in the westbound lanes from the bridge to the maze and i keep showing you this camera because there is fog outside. i'm not sure how much longer we can us

. >> the ntsb is sending a rapid response team to the scene. investigators spoke early this morning before leaving washington, d.c. >> we're gonna be investigating the human, the machine and the environment and what's critical for us especially in highway accidents is for us to collect perishable information, the kind of information that goes away very quickly. >> that would include memories of the witnesses. the ntsb is picking up investigators in texas and will continue on here to california. they will expected to arrive sometime -- are expected to arrive sometime this afternoon. at ktvu.com, we've posted additional video and photos of this catastrophic accident. we're posting updates on twitter and facebook. >>> top executives at b.a.r.t. are getting a pay raise. the brdz board of directors approved it. these are pay hikes of 3.7%. that's in line with the pay hikes for most of b.a.r.t.'s rank and file workers. the board's decision follows two b.a.r.t. strikes and months of very bitter labor negotiations. the board also voted to higher a -- t

on analysis of that box probably in australia. >> peter, you worked at the ntsb for a long time. whoever gets a crack at it for the first time opening it up, that's critical. if you don't know what you are doing, you can screw that data up? >> that's right. the first read is essentially that it be done right. my guess is, when they get close to getting the boxes, the malaysians will be on the ship, they will be there but this is going to the australians because they can look at it within six or eight hours. the americans and the malaysians will be there. the malaysians will make announcement but -- >> do the australians have experience dealing with a black box that the ntsb, the u.s. has? >> they are very similar. they have the same kind of equipment. they cross-train. i have full confidence that they can take the lead and the americans will be there with them. >> the u.s. australian cooperation is first rate. so presumably the best u.s. expert, the best australian experts would have the first crack at it? >> there's no impede dense to sharing anything, including secrets. so i th

. >>> the ntsb has arrived to help determine why two planes collided mid-air over san pablo bay. this as the search and rescue team continues as they try to find the pilot of the plane. the search and the cause remains under investigation during this hour on san pablo bay. it happened at 4:00 yesterday afternoon. live near the shoreline where he just got an update from the coast guard, good afternoon, brian. >> reporter: good afternoon, torii and i just got off the phone with the coast guard and the silverling is it still remains a search and rescue. you can see this is believed to be where the cessna went down yesterday afternoon and yesterday a helicopter and coast guard cutter named pike searched the water of san pablo bay and they were pinpointing off the yacht harbor which is a private marina points west of san pablo and we understand the sources and the pilot of the cessna 210 may have been trying to take photos of the single engine k-20 and that's when they both came too close and clipped each other. they land had as address knot and this information has yet to be confirme

if this were in the united states, for example, the ntsb would have already released the preliminary. the press would be involved. we would have basic factual information about this airplane, generally being if it was discoverable before the crash you can get it after the crash. but our hands are kind of tied given that we're dealing with malaysia. and the concept of the free press in malaysia is really very different from what it is in the united states. >> well, malaysia doesn't really have a free and open press. and that is why the family members are happy that we're there to press authorities to get more answers. jim, here is a question that needs an answer about the boeing 777. the triple 7. it is one of the most reliable airplanes built with computer-mediated controls. what if this technology has failed? do you believe it can stem from a problem with this airplane, or is it something else entirely? >> obviously, i don't know exactly what happened. but i have to tell you i would be shocked to find that there was anything wrong with that airplane. i mean, the -- the boeing people

very nations have had the depth, the ntsb is preeminent in all of this. i would say if you are going to buy a boeing 777 and fly it in your flag airliner, carrier, squlo airier, you should show you can conduct one of the investigations or sign away in advance memorandum of understanding who you're going to in these circumstances so there's no decision in the midst of this horrible tragedy. >> david, you know, failure's not an option here. if the black boxes are never recovered, i mean, can this investigation ever be complete? i think i'm getting ahead of myself. is what the likelihood now pingers are gone? >> i think it's very likely that the batteries have died. i do feel confident they're going to fine black boxes than signal was distinctive, it's not confused with fishing boat signal or any other signal like before. >> it's not like that where you can find them. >> we're talking 560 miles. if you went from end to end. but that's probably not what they'll do. they'll recognize far pings as artifacts that are going through the transthermal layer. so if y

/faa, ntsb investigation, you have released the transcript.uld you let the families hear the audiotape? >> of course. the tower tape would have been made public shortly after the accident. the faa controls that. and it's their policy that unless there's some seriously extenuating circumstance, the tower tape is made public. >> from the pilot's perspective, is there any problem hearing the pilot or the co pilot? we're not exactly sure who uttered those final words at exactly 1:19 a.m. there, and we're approaching 30 seconds or so from now, that exact moment when the final words were ushered. in fact, right now, 1:19, that was the time -- 1:19 a.m. over there in that part of the world. 1:19 here on the east coast of the united states when we heard, according to the transcript, the pilot or the co pilot, they're not saying who, uttered those words "goodnight malaysian 370." >> you know, there's been so many misinformation -- so much misinformation being given. having those tapes would really satisfy a lot of people. certainly the families. but th

when we do an investigation, the ntsb, they set up similar committees, except far more. so it is good they're setting up the committees. but the true investigative committee that should be working overall to solve this accident, the causes, the probable causes, any recommendations, the full panoply of what comes out after a crash really should contain far more working groups and committees. but yes, if they're going to be very objective and look at how this happened. look at their own response and how it happened, of course it is good to do that. >> a lot to cover tonight, including as we mentioned, underwater territory that we've never seen before. >>> also, vladimir putin's words, on paving the way for civil war. let us know what you think. coming up next, david gallo shows us the amazing look of what the ocean floor looks like. two underwater sonar devices and the remarkable pictures the machines can take. and later this. >>> 797, over on the -- may day, going down. >> we're going to show you what begins as a disaster becomes an opportunity. air crashes over the years

it's traditional for the ntsb to and the faa to be at odds. agency and one finds probable cause and says we recommend this. dave has probably been at the forefront of this. >> you agree with tombstone -- i have never heard that term. >> it is what the faa has been working away from a certification process. as a result of the fact that now it is not just a singular cause and having it fixed. it is more complicated. as the aircraft get more complex you have to look at the relationship between the systems and look for precursors. >> with this gps system that they are going to have in place by 2020 in the united states, would that have made it much easier? if it was on -- in the area for flight 3 flight 370 to track it? >> yes. >> yes, absolutely. the certification process said we need to change how we do things, including the air traffic control system. the next process that came out, they would have information constantly about every other aircraft that may even cross their path. >> would it still be possible, les, if a pilot or a co-pilot were

several of the fbi, the ntsb, there weren't budgets for that huge of a scale of an effort. that was 45 to $50 million. so there was talk they were going to present the bill to twa and its insurers and the insurers said, no, thanks. it's not for us to pay. so there's a question of who pays for this and right now each nation is bearing their own expense, even though there is a very large policy. >> jeff, as you watch all of this, do you think the bluefin is up to the charge and do you agree with arthur rosenberg that we need more assets out there? >> it is encouraging that they managed to get on the third day all the way through its mission. that's a good sign. maybe it was just some teething pains to start. it is theoretically capable of operating at these depths. on paper this was talk that maybe it was a reconditioned model, maybe it was purchased off of a used car lot or something and not up to snuff. i think this is encouraging. soon hopefully we will hear the results. maybe we will get some data that seems to indicate the wreckage is there. we really have to -- it would

it's traditional for the ntsb to kind of and the faa to be at odds.ncy and one finds probable cause and says, "a," we recommend this. dave has probably been at the forefront of this. and it's very difficult. >> you agree with tombstone -- i have never heard that term. >> it is a term that's been used and that's what the faa has been working away from, a certification process. it was started by nick sabatini as a result of the fact that now it is not just about a singular cause and having it fixed. it is more complicated. as these aircraft get much more complex, you have to look at the relationship between the systems and look for precursors. >> with this gps system that they are going to have in place by 2020 in the united states, would that have made it much easier? i mean, if it was on -- in the area for flight 370 to track it? >> yes, absolutely. the certification process study i just mentioned before, we need to change how we do things, including the air traffic control system which has been in place for years and years and years. the next ge. n c

we have contacted ntsb. we are trying to use any resource we can.sten and answer is who we are trying to go to. of course authoritatively. the fbi, using that as a source especially since phil's an american. anything we can. >> the fbi or american diplomates willing to help? do they think they can pressure and get answers? >> well, i know they are working in concert with the authorities. of course the malaysian government is leading the investigation. we know that. that's also a little bit of the problem in our eyes because from the get go we haven't had the answers given to us in a transparent manner. so the trust is broken. >> yeah. >> the trust is broken. so with that in mind, even when they say something that might be true now, we're not sure if we can believe it. i know some of the families over on that side of the world are even more feeling that way. with them walking out. there's just a level of mistrust that is so high. >> they think it is a cover-up. your brother's partner sara, she's been a regular with us and so eloquent on her facebook

the ntsb says the fedex truck left no skid marks on the road or the median as it geared into oncoming traffic but the tour bus left 145' of skid marks indicating the bus driver dried to avoid the truck. the bus driver tala salanoa died in the crash. she drove buses for sam tran for 19 years. a san francisco woman said they played softball together when they were young. >> wow, what a tragedy, she didn't have to die like that. >> the fedex driver died. his neighbor remembered him in tears. >> the ntsb is getting blood samples from both drivers as they try to figure out what happened. >> they were tested for alcohol, over-the-counter medication, prescription medication illegal drugs. this is the possibility they may be able to tell us what either of the drivers inhaled smoke. >> it could take months to issue the final report but a preliminary report is released in 30 days. >> a fund is set up for victims and families. go to abc7news.com. >> santa clara county is working on a land to get more law enforcement stores to patrol the streets san jose. the board of supervisors tomorrow will co

. >> i'm frank, the ntsb the looking at what caused the fedex big rig and bus to collide. but investigators want to know if lives could have been spade. one young survivor in the crash still recovering at the hospital now. and he sprung into action to save a number of passengers on board. kate. >> as the investigation reveals new details we are learning more about the heartbreak and heroism that went on during the collision. one man is being called a savior after he knocked out a window that helped dozens escape. >> you can remember that truck coming right at you. >> miles hill was sitting near the front of the bus. the horror that followed remains vivid. >> i have really bad nightmares about it. every time i close my eyes i hear screaming. i hear a boom. i see fire. >> and he saw people dying. >> i watched a person burn alive. i can never forget that. i shielded my face with my arms and i kicked out the window in more or less the same instant and just booked it. 36 people made it out. 20 something came out through the window i kicked open. >> miles is one of two who rehos

organized it appropriately like an ntsb investigation here in the states. >> why wouldn't that happen is that pride? what gives? >> well, i mean, technically it was their investigation. even under the icao standards, it belonged to them, probably in a sense of national pride and it's their airline and it's a state, you know, an off shoot of the state from their airline. and, of course, you know, if you lose control of your investigation, you can lose control of the findings. it being a state airline and they not knowing how it was going to come out, there are other situations in the past where countries have let two of their investigation and in one case they gave it to the ntsb and did not like the findings. >> sometimes when you don't know, you don't know what you don't know, right? >> certainly. i think there's a history of pride here as well, don. i was one of the first responders to the indian ocean sue tsunami in 2004. they didn't invite the west in for many days until they realized the size of the situation. so i think initially pride was getting in the way. and once they reali

the ntsb is asking for more witnesses to come forward. a father says his son watched as the truck crossed the median and hit the bus. hills' 18-year-old son miles was able to get out of the bus by kicking open a door. hills says his son feels the guilt of surviving. >> he mentioned he felt he almost feels guilty that i survived. he said i would have much rather have helped those people get out who didn't make it than me get out. i can't imagine him in the middle of the explosion. >> reporter: you don't know when he is coming home? >> hill says it was hard to get information. >>> investigators are looking into whether a fire suppression system might have helped. recently the ntsb recommended that the fire system be installed on all buses similar to sprinkler systems that high rise buildings have. >>> stay with nbc bay area for the latest on the bus crash. we will have updates tonight at 11:00. when we are not on air head to nbcbayarea.com for up to the minute news. >>> turning to a story you will only see on nbc. there was a statewide stin

the ntsb sending a team to investigate that firey bus crash near orland. the new information about the federal response and the teenage victims involved in that crash. >>> the star quarterback of the 49ers caught up in an incident involving alcohol, marijuana, and nakedness. >> good morning on westbound 24 traffic still looks pretty good driving from walnut creek to oakland. we will watch some of the other commutes and give you a drive time for the bay bridge. >> a lot of high and low level clouds drifting in. it will be a cooler forecast. >>> the bus and big rig did go up in flames. there was a lot of smoke. >> a charter bus loaded with high school seniors crashes and bursts into flames. what we have learned about the victims anteinvestigation -- about the victims andth investigation under way. >> two problems with the 49ers as two players face hit and run charges and weapons charges. are the 49ers facing a public image problem? >> a three-year-old girl left alone in a car with drug filled needles. a new development involving phony credit cards and a big