the ntsb accidents are a portion of those numbers that you're looking at. as i mentioned in my opening statement, we have three ongoing investigations in three different states where we are looking at what's happening on those high speed roadways. >> i have several questions that i want to ask about this, but i think it's important to know how many of these fatalities were the result of people going around the bus, as opposed to the bus actually running over the child. you've got both those situations. and the reason i bring that up is that in reading the testimonies here, mr. benish's testimony pointed out that the passing of stopped school buses during loading or unloading illegal in all 50 states has reached epidemic proportions. in most recent annual observational survey in 2018, 105,306 school bus drivers in 38 states reported almost 84,000 vehicles that illegally passed your stopped school bus in one day. that is incomprehensible to me that that many people are that stupid or that unconcerned about the safety of the kids on that bus. based on the obse

the ntsb has long advocated for the ntsb has long advocated for vehicle design aspects, forward collision avoidance, occupant protection -- everyone has talked about lap shoulder belts, and most recently, talking about post-crash events. chair norton: those are things that only congress can do? >> vehicle design. we focus those recommendations to ntsa. chair norton: mr. benish, my time will run out. mr. benish: one of the things in my testimony was the stop at, illegal passing laws. chair norton: that is the federal government that can do that? mr. benish: yes. the statistics, there are at least 80,000 illegal passings each day. chair norton: i am just trying to get the priorities. ms. ferro: in support of chief fulton's comment regarding oversight of drivers, research and tools to ensure that states and companies have timely access to driver conviction suspension cancellation data. chair norton: thank you. sec. condron: one thing that we do not want to look for is there is a shortage of bus drivers across this country, and legislation that would diminish the pool of drivers would be a de

the ntsb has always advocated for crash prevention. technologies like forward collision avoidance, automatic emergency braking, electronic stability control. if they can activate at that last moment before crash happens, in some cases we can avoid the crash altogether. in other cases we can lower the severity of the crash. it is very important for school buses as well as all vehicles. >> thank you. those of the reasons which have been discussed here while we introduced hr-2959, and we hope they can be included in some measure as time goes on and pass it into law. i yield back the balance of my time. ask will add mr. palmer to a question when he was most likely out of time, but it was impossible even the time remaining for the question to be answered. so i invite those of you who do have answers to mr. palmer's writing to submit it in and i will make sure that those answers get into the record. >> i will assist that, because mr. palmer, representative palmer took some of my question talking about rural communities and the impact of bus

again, the ntsb has been a long advocate for this type of technology. rep. garcia: switching gears slightly, crash avoidance and mitigation technologies are critical to school bus safety. i would like to transition to a safety issue that is too often overlooked. the safety of the air our children breathe on school buses. i am working with senator kamala harris, and a colleague, a former educator from connecticut to introduce the clean air bus act. children rely on the school bus fleet to get to school daily. the tailpipe emissions that they are exposed to in-transit and while idling in these buses are extremely toxic, especially as some of the school bus yards are located in urban areas. i ask unanimous consent to enter into the record the american 's state of then po air report. it further highlights the toxicity of air and heavy duty diesel engines including school buses. thank you. this pollution negatively affects school attendance, health, and test scores, a burden that also tends to fall proportionally on low-income students and students of color like

ntsb officials haven't determined probable cause in the accident. in san jose, ktvu, fox news. >>> bart says construction on a section of track is ahead of schedule. this weekend's track shut down is being changed from a full closure to single tracking. the partial closure scheduled for 21st has. canceled. stival won't be ayette art and affected. there will be regular bart service during fleet week since work planned for october 12th and 13th has been canceled. those are big events. >> a lot of people will like that change. >>> time is 4:47. sal's right there. are you fixing everything on the roads now? >> trying to. right now we don't have too much. we do have some slow downs that are typical for this time of the morning. like the far away commutes, that looks slow already coming in from the altamont pass. we're full strength today. you can see some of these speeds are low coming in from tracy and just everything happens so early here. there have been no major problems into castro valley. this is a look at interstate 880 and oakland. lights are on

. >>> new revelations about the final moments before the deadly 737 max crashes, the ntsb saying boeing wasn't prepared for the chaos in the cockpit. >>> the tragic failure in a prominent children's hospital. the malfunction that destroyed potentially life-saving treatments for dozens of young patients. >>> and at "joker" firestorm what many movie theaters are banning after warning the screenings could be targeted for mass shootings >> announcer: this is "nbc nightly news" with lester holt. an anonymous whist detailing not only his ask for political help from ukraine's president, but also a white house effort to lock down records of that phone call today the acting director of national intelligence faced a barrage of questions on capitol hill over why he held up the complaint, and tonight an embattled president trump facing an impeachment inquiry is angrily denying and deflecting the allegations. we're covering all angles here we start with peter alexander. >> reporter: within minutes of its release, the whistle-blower complaint sparking clashes on capitol hill. >> our president sacrifi

the ntsb will release its preliminary report in about ten days.mes next among the many things? crews will be pulling that boat from the ocean floor. >> we are joined live from the harbor. let's talk about that boat. we know the boat is inverted. it is upside down and badly damaged from the fire. when will it happen and have they talked about what that mission would entail? >> reporter: we know that is going to be a long and very difficult process. we've seen those divers going back and forth all day. they're going to have to go down there and map that boat as it sits on the floor of the ocean and then they are going to have to figure out a way they can safely turn it back right side up and get it in a position that is can get back on land. then the process continues once that boat or the pieces of the boat are back on land. the ntsb can look at it because they need to figure out how this fire started if they can. >> there will be a lot of clues there. we mentioned the ntsb had a full day of interviews and they spoke with the crew and also the owne

the ntsb determined tesla driver lied too much on the autonomous driving system. but the report was also critical of the auto pilot system that allowed that driver to disengage from driving. no one was hurt in had that crash, but three drivers have died in similar crashes since 2016. >>> porsche has unveiled its first electric car. versions of the four-door car were unveiled today with up to 750 horsepower. it can go zero to 60 in 2.6 seconds and will be able to go more than 250 miles with a full charge. the price of the turbo mold of the porschround $150,000. the company says it will offer models at a later date that are not as fast or powerful and carry a lower price tag. >>> games by tech companies led to a rally on wall street today from their losses yesterday. up 237 and nasdaq up 102 >>> hundreds of millions of phone numbers linked to facebook have been discovered online. the exposed server contains more than 419 million phone numbers belonging to facebook users around the world. the server was not password protected, and while phone numbers may not present

tonight, the faces, as the ntsb now questions the crew. what we've now learned tonight. >>> the new vaping ban this evening. flavored e-cigarettes. where the ban is now in place, as lawmakers call teen vaping a public health emergency. >>> president trump tonight diverting billions of dollars from the pentagon, from the military, to fund his border wall. tonight, the controversy. >>> the major blow dealt to british prime minister boris johnson, the champion of brexit. president trump has called him britain's trump, touch and smart. has the new prime minister, though, been outsmarted? >>> and news coming in in the jeffrey epstein case. the man now pleading with the judge to keep his name private, as the judge not decides whether to make documents public, could they contain hundreds of names? >>> good evening and it's great to have you with us here on a very busy wednesday night. and we begin with hurricane dorian. it's taken days to get here, but it's here. and authorities are warning of life-threatening storm surge. take a look at the hurr

the ntsb is now involved to keep people safe. >>> ntsb investigators say th broken freeway attenway tore crash worse. >> when rr this crash attenuator was not operable. >> monday the ntsb issued a report as part of its investigation into that fatal accident that killed engineer walter hong. the agency calls on cal trans to repair damaged equipment more quickly and better track repair work. operating his tesla model x on auto pilot crashed on southbound 101 at the 85 split in mountain view. >> the vehicle got confused not trying to find the lane on the left hand side and veered towards the middle of the road. that's what caused the crash. >> ntsb officials say this has been involved in more crashes. on that day maintenance supervisor and crew were off work. according to the ntsb. the report says the supervisor worked to coordinate a replacement. that was too late for hong. >> that's going to benefit everybody. not the guys driving auto pilot vehicles. it's going to help anybody. >> safetied remains cal trans priority. we're in the process of reviewing the report to determine the next step

ntsb, worked with them in the past as an fbi agent.y're methodical don't rule things in, they rule things out. go through the boat about its stern once actually surfaced and try to get to the root cause of the fire. the second phase of the investigation going on now. talking to our sources, federal officials currently conducting an investigation. coast guard and atf looking at the operation of this company. whether this company was actually in compliance. the ntsb is the lead, if it turns out there was neglect, negligence on the part of the vessel or those onboard you could see additional possible criminal charges possibly down the road. it's too early for that yet. we still need to get the vessel up and figure out what was actually the cause. >> awful for these 34 families, tight-knit deitsch community in southern california. totally we'll stay on this. thank you both very much on this ntsb report. >>> coming up next, a strong denial from benjamin netanyahu saying israel did not plant listening devices near the white house, and it may

>>the ntsb plans to stay at the scene for up to 10 days now, we'll be looking into boat. whether it had fire extinguishers lifeboats, etcetera the ntsb will also be interviewing survivors. first responders stivers and other relevant people. and we have team coverage tonight as the dive boat tragedy has deep ties to the bay area. >>our first year stone has more on christie for instead, the leader of the dive trip, but first let's go to our first rob fladeboe he has more on the victims linked to a school in santa cruz rob. >>yes right nikki and grant and here at specific collegiate charter school of western drive in santa cruz, the school is in mourning tonight, the administration. confirming for us today that both students and parents were on board that boat. there's more. >>the >>voice message heard by those calling pacific collegiate charter school early tuesday left no doubt the school has been deeply affected by the tragic sinking of the diving vessel conception on monday. grief counselors were brought in today amid an understandable plea for privacy. the school did no

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so for instance, the ntsb, i spoke to ntsb certified and court expert who was going over the layout.ws reports alone, it sounds like to him that the crew was on the deck trying to fill scuba tanks with oxygen or nitrox where there may have been someone cooking in the galley sparked what was a small fire became an inferno because of a leak in that oxygen line. ntsb is actually on board the boat that we're looking at which is virtually a carbon copy of the boat that sank. they did a tour of this earlier today. the ntsb promises to find out what went wrong. >> i am 100% confident that our investigators will determine the cause of this fire, why it occurred, how it occurred and what is needed to prevent it from happening again, absolutely. >> reporter: so, the ntsb will do an initial report within about ten days. it will give us an idea about what happened. the full report won't come out for about nine months. >> dana: what are the teams doing on the water today though? >> reporter: the big challenge is trying to figure out how to raise the hull of that boat, which is 65 feet damage and

the ntsb says it identified problems in a fatal 2016 crash in san jose when a barrier damaged 44-days earlier had not been fixed. a spokesperson says it's reviewing the ntsb report to identify the next steps. >>> the cause of a mysterious lung illness needs to be found. ate least 450-cases have been reported cross the country and 5 deaths. it's not sure what's causing it or related to tobacco, cannabis or both. the group is usually young healthy men which is a cause of concern. >> when we see it more than doubling who started vaping in the last 2 years, every 1 in 3 in the last few years, we think we're particularly vulnerable to this. >> 57-cases of respiratory illness have recently been reported in california. >>> the biggest fire burning in california right now is the walker fire in plymouth county. the u.s. forest service says it's just 7% contained and burned more than 68 germiles. than an area bigger than the entire city of san francisco. no injuries have been reported. mandatory evacuations are underway. the fire started last wednesday and the cause still under investigation. a

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ntsb says divers are using sonar equipment to document the area.itting upside down in about 65 feet of water. investigators also say the conception, the boat, didn't have sprinklers but wasn't required to. again, one person is still missing. we have learned a lot about the other people who were on board. >> we're going to get more information now from jobina fortson who is live in the studio. there's a couple from right here in berkeley. >> yes, good kumasi. daniel gar zee yeah and his partner yulia krashennaya. friends confirm the couple did not survive. friends say garcia was a software engineer and primary developer behind lighting technology called fast l. echlt d. the lights in garcia's yard were the envy of many on his berkeley street. neighbors tell us they're beautiful. the couple wuz loved by their community and many were too distraught to appear on camera to talk with us. >> the tragedy is unspeakable, just horrible. >> i feel like i lost a part of my family. >> friends of the couple posted on social media that garcia loved scuba diving a

the ntsb says that they're getting a better grass on the conception diving-boat what's nowling 60 to 65 feet under water. the crew members including the captain who are all on the upper deck at the time of the fire. they escaped, the ntsb says that they interviewed them on wednesday and they also ran tests, alcohol results were all negative and the drug testing results are still being processed their next step is trying to figure out what came first the fire or the explosion. >>being the wreckage before it is moved. we want as much the video and did it and digital images as we can. before that vessel is moved. we understand that there are plans under way to salvage it. >>well the ntsb also examined a similar boat owned by that same company, the owner truth aquatics has also voluntarily stopped operations of its boats while the investigation continues. well 2 of the dead were also co workers at a san francisco, stem website. it's a sight that's designed to educate students in science technology engineering and math kron four's that while bello has that story. >>kerry mclaughlin in chr

the ntsb says it no black box was on board because a boat that size is not required to have one. now investigators are trying to fill in the missing pieces but this here's what we know so far. >>the mayday calls after 5 people escaped the flames in sinking of the conception diving boat off the channel islands the captain and 4 crew members were on the upper deck at the time while searchers believe 34 others were sleeping below the deck after no new signs of survivors. the coast guard transition from rescue to recovery mode and other agencies like the ntsb dove in to help. we begin to factual information and documents. reached out. develop e list of people that we would like to interview as i said the the investigation actually began before we even arrived on scene investigators will review what happened leading up to the fire as well as the vessels layout and its operations. >>on one recording you hear dispatcher asking about locks on the but investigators believe the fire is would trap the other passengers. this is what the conception looked like before the fire. the for a passe

the ntsb says divers are also using sonar equipment to document the area.side down in about 65 feet of water. investigators also say the conception, the name of that boat, did not have sprinklers, but it wasn't required to. coast guard officials still looking for one missing person. >> we have learned at least 15 of the victims are from northern california, including a couple from berkeley. abc 7 reporter jobina fortson is giving us the update. >> good morning. daniel garcia and partner were on board the diving boat, the conception, celebrating the labor day holiday weekend when it caught fire. friends confirmed to us that the couple didn't survive. garcia was a software engineer and primary developer behind lighting technology called fast l.e.d. the lights in his yard were the envy of many of his berkeley neighbors. neighbors also tell us they were beautiful. the couple was loved by their community and many were too distraught to appear on camera to talk with us. >> this tragedy is unspeakable, just horrible. >> i feel like i've lost a part of my family. >

. >>> also tonight, the breaking headline of the deadly boat disaster the ntsb just revealing all crew members were asleep when the flames erupted the coast guard working to lift the ship from the water. tonight, the new warning about charging phones on boats >>> the fertility clinic accused of a shocking mix-up a father stunned to discover he's not his child's biological dad. >> it shuts you down your whole everything, your life this is not my daughter. whose is it? >> the parents suing the clinic.

the ntsb interviewed some of the crew yesterday. they went over the layout of the boat. big outstanding questions -- how did the fire start, and why couldn't passengers get out? on the fire, i am told there was a power strip, powered by lithium-ion batteries, installed in the dining area where people charge their cameras and phones, and it may be a spark or faulty charger started the fight. a crew member told that to the nts to b, which investigated ak area below deck, a small staircase, and the one tiny escape hatch, likely focus for families making a legal claim against the owner for liability and negligence. >> arguments will be made about the layout of the vessel, the configuration of it, and what kind of safety it provided to the passengers sleeping below decks in the event of an emergency. that is certainly something i would look at. >> basically, at this point in time, i saw in the "los angeles times" that the ntsb board member told them that she went down to that bunk room and was "taken aback by how small that hatch was." i am told it's literally two and a half

ntsb releasing its preliminary report on the deadly dive boat fire.he ship went up in flames on labor day. william la jeunesse has the details from california. william, we just got information we want to share with our viewers. >> reporter: yeah. it came out about five minutes ago. the headline is all five crew members were asleep behind the wheel house which means one was not awake in case the boat drifted, so it didn't go ashore or rocks or another boat. they were supposed to be awake and weren't. by the time they woke up, the fire was fully engulfed. there was no prior electrical o the ntsb. basically a noise around 3 a.m. gets up, sees the fire, awakes the other four guys. the fire by now is coming out of the galley below, the second deck, if you will. they try to get down by ladder and couldn't because it was on fire. i'm quoting that the main deck, which is where the galley an kitchen area is, where all the passengers are, it was, quote, fully engulfed with fire, with smoke coming out of the window. we were unable to open that window an were ove

grant pam ken the ntsb spent a lot of time interviewing. >>the captain of the boat, the person who owns the boat and others. >>hours of detailed questioning, but what came out of that is not yet being revealed, however we do know the crew members were given alcohol and drug tests, the alcohol tests were negative. the drug. test results are still pending. the captain and 4 crew members are the only survivors aboard the conception everybody else was sleeping below deck when was trapped by the fast-moving fire. officials today spoke about how crews are now investigating the wreckage. >>are documenting the wreckage which is currently submerged under 60 to 65 feet of water. and it's inverted. and that documentation is occurring with side scan sonar. so that they are actually mapping the wreckage before it is moved. we want as much video and did it and digital images as we can you get before that vessel is moved and we're hopeful that will be able to be raised soon. we understand that there are plans under way to salvage it. >>the boats fire prot

the ntsb also stepped foot on vision. a boat owned by the same company as the conceptions not the exact replica. but it is a similar vessel. to conception and what that means is some things may be arranged differently. but it's pretty close and i wanted to lay on eyes. on the vessel and just get a sense of of the layout visions. captain described the exit layouts. one is consider the emergency exit. >>it is a small exit but it is more than enough room for any human being to pass through and then the one it standard entrance and exit to the nearly not required. >>the owner truth aquatics stopped operations, a vision and its 3rd boat during the investigation. taylor bus actually kron 4 news. we're also learning more about another santa cruz dive instructor who died while aboard the conception. >>41 year old christie finn staff she had let a diving expedition on the conception before she'd been diving since childhood inherited the business worldwide diving adventure. and our passion for diving from her father, scott jackson,

what sort of experience does ntsb have in terms of things on boat. >> extensive experience.ly working closely with the coast guard. so we have extensive experience in investigating maritime accidents. >> i always wonder when the ntsb investigates something like a plane crash. when you think about a fire in the water and all of the destruction of anything that would look like evident to you, how do you even start? >> well, first thing i will probably try to do is see if they can raise the boat and take it someplace where they can do a careful investigation and the raising process they would want to make sure that some evidence is not destroyed. they are not able to look at issues i talked about, the galley equipment. they will not be able to do that where it sits. they will try to raise that and put it someplace where they can do the investigation. >> thank you for joining us. former chair person of the ntsb. >>> we'll update another breaking story from this busy holiday weekend, the ongoing investigation into the mass shooting in west texas and what we have learned about the

but that day, they were off work that day according to the ntsb. they say they workover the weekend to coordinate a replacement. but that was too late for him. he left behind a wife and two small children. >> it allows them to have it in place, so they can work together to ensure they're reported and repaired. >> that will benefit everybody, not the guys driving autopilot vehicles. it will help everybody. >> reporter: they issued a response and says safety remains the top priority. we are in conjunction with reviewing the report to determine the next steps. ntsb officials say they haven't observed probable cause, and they won't complete their investigation until next year. they want them to implement a plan to ensure that the highway safety equipment is repaired. ktvu fox 2 news. >> video of a tesla driver asleep at the wheel is going viral. a resident in boston took this serl phone video of the sleeping driver and his sleeping passenger driver on the massachusetts turnpike early yesterday morning. the man said he drove alongside the car for nearly

the ntsb also stepped foot on vision. the boat owned by the same company as the conceptions not the exact replica. but it is a similar vessel. to conception and what that means is some things may be arranged differently. but it's pretty close and i wanted to lay on eyes. on the vessel and just get a sense of of the layout visions. captain described the exit layouts. one is consider the emergency action. >>it is a small exit but it is more than enough room for any human being to pass through and and wanted interventions an exit nearly not required. >>the owner truth aquatics stopped operations, a vision and its 3rd boat during the investigation. the ntsb says it will interview first responders coast guard inspectors. witnesses and more tomorrow. they say the preliminary report should be ready in about 9 days that will only include facts about the boat. they say we may have to wait one to 2 years for a determined cause of this fire live from the studio taylor sackey kron 4 news taylor. thank you, 2 of the people killed were

tonight, the ntsb says that's concerning, as well. david? >> will carr with us again tonight. will, thank you. >>> and we turn to the verdict tonight for two men charged in a deadly fire in oakland, california, it made national headlines at the time. one man aquited, a hung jury for the other. 36 people died in the fire during a party at the so-called ghost ship warehouse in december 2016. the jury was hung on derek almena, who rented the building. then acquitted on max harris, his partner. >>> we turn now to the deadly mass shootings in this country and the fallout. a growing list of retailers asking customers not to openly carry guns into their stores, after walmart and kroger announced that change in policy today, pharmacy giants walgreens and cvs, as well as wegman's following that move. >>> former vice president joe biden, the democratic front-runner, and that means, of course, growing scrutiny. tonight, biden on his own gaffes. stephen colbert asking biden, "are you going nuts?" how biden answered. here's mary bruce. >> reporter: after a string of misstatements, the self

. >>> happening today, the ntsb will release its final report of a crash of a tesla in l.a. last year. the driver said he was following a large vehicle that suddenly changed lanes because of a stopped fire truck that was in the csh rse qst about the auto pilot system. the tesla involved in the crash didn't breake even though the system was on. >>> steph and ayesha curry are teaming up for a new golf tournament. >> in harding park on september 16th. golf week says 50 teams of the curry's friends will play. they hope to raise $1.3 million. can we be a team? can we go? i can't golf. >> absolutely. are we one of his 50 closest friends. >> let me check. no, we're not. 51. >> didn't get back to us. >> really close. >> missed the cut by that much. >> next year. >> let's work hard. >> i can practice. >>> got something to look forward to. let's take a look at what's going on out there. 74 on mt. tam. a couple of fingers of fog trying to roll across the golden gate. marin headlands running a timeline on that. partly cloudy, seasonal today. a slight chance of a thunderstorm this aftern

. >> reporter: a team from the ntsb is in route to investigate. >> one veteran diver had a long history on that boat. he is now speaking out about where he thinks everyone was trapped. >> over 12 years i have been diving off of that boat. i cannot believe that this happened. it is designed in such them manner, there has to be another way out of the room. it is pure speculation, but it is horrible to think that people could have been trapped. >> we are also learning more about a local connection to this deadly fire. a sed in santa cruz, booked onto that vessel. >>> investigators say that at least one local dive company based here in santa cruz, chartered the conception out into the water early this morning. with the missing now in the water for more than increasingly grim. >> the last report was that there was a boat fire. the santa cruz island area. >> reporter: the boat had clients from multiple dive companies, including worldwide diving adventures. the owner ran the company and was helping to lead some of the dives. their website features a labor day dive for $665 on the conception to

the ntsb also stepped foot on vision. a boat owned by the same company as the conceptions not the exact replica. but it is a similar vessel. to conception and what that means is some things may be arranged differently. but it's pretty close and i wanted to lay on eyes. on the vessel and just get a sense of of the layout visions. captain described the exit layouts, one is considered the emergency action. >>it is a small exit but it is more than enough room for any human being to pass through and then the wanted interventions an exit airway. >>the owner truth aquatics stopped operations a vision and its 3rd boat during this investigation. now the ntsb also spoke with families today fav interview scheduled with first responders coast guard inspectors witnesses and more tomorrow. they say the preliminary report should be ready in about 9 days that will only include facts about the boat. they say we may have to wait one to 2 years for a determined cause of this fire reporting live from the studio taylor bus aqi kron 4 news. th

look at this ntsb video. here's another reason. see that piece of wood and the guy's hand? it covers the loan emergency exit. a man struggles to squeeze out of it, and he can't. also, the main stairway is so steep, this guy goes down backwards. based on these eyewitness accounts from the crew, the ntsb believes the fire started in the galley area on that second floor, near an electrical area, where passengers charge their phones and cameras. that wiring overloaded, overheated batteries, they don't know. they do know that the crew never saw passengers or heard the smoke alarm? >> they went to the double doors of the galley to try and get in, to get to the passengers, but it was engulfed in flames at that time. there's a lot of wiring and electrical systems. there may have been -- and we don't know this yet -- there may have been geared charging. speak of the owner said in a court filing that he owes the families nothing because his company did nothing wrong, and yesterday he defended the crew. >> the crew was located in a different part of the vessel. the flames reached up t

the ntsb also stepped foot on vision.he same company as the conceptions not the exact replica. but it is a similar vessel. to conception and what that means is some things may be arranged differently. but it's pretty close and i wanted to lay on eyes. on the vessel and just get a sense of of the layout visions. captain described the exit layouts, one is considered the emergency exit. >>it is a small exit but it is more than enough room for any human being to pass through and then they wanted interventions an exit nearly not required. >>the owner truth aquatics stopp erations, a vision and its 3rd boat during the investigation taylor bus actually kron 4 news. >>we have continuing coverage of the deadly boat fire on our website you can hear more about all of the victims everyone that we know so far and where they're from there's also a timeline of what happened the night of the fire. we also have a look at the boat. before it caught fire with the layout where was everyone sleeping in and what were the quarter's like you can

what is the ntsb doing now? >> this is our second cool day of the investigation as we have a number of interviews with two crewmembers and first responders, coast guard and others and we are collecting a number of documents and other data and our focus is raising the vessel from under the water. heather: how long will that take in terms of a timeline? when will you have even a preliminary report available? >> for a preliminary report we will have one in ten days and a final report in 12 to 18 months but during that time, if we identify safety concerns we will issue urgent safety recommendations. heather: how you do that? looking at the remnants of the boat and what is left clearly it was a tremendous fire and explosion and i understand the boat is not required to have a black box on board. >> it did not have a black box and that is not a requirement. heather: is there a chance of that changing as a result of this event and this fire requiring boats like this to have a black box? >> it is a possibility and someth

the ntsb is leading the investigation into how this boat caught fire and sank on labor day. at the santa barbara harbore harborer, a diving trip came to a fiery end on the water. >> lighting each candle and sawing goodbye with each candle. >> reporter: they spent part of the evening examining vision.h . so f20 bodies have been recoverd from thewreckage. >> i was a diver formany years and in fact i've been on that boat before. >> reporter: as fellow divers now wonder what went wrong. >> i just know this could have happened to me or anyone at anytime. >> reporter: a group of experts arrived in santa barbara to lead the investigation. they will interview the five crew mem prz th cr members that skaupd and died. and how it killed one crew member and 34 passengers as they slept below deck >> it would be horrifing. and i think you'd have to be numbb to not feel something for these people. >> reporter: and identifying the vigtms will likely be a pretty complicated process. investigators will have to use dna samples from family members of the victims. meanwhile, the ntsb will be her

we do know is the ntsb says the five crew were asleep when the fire broke out.e time they woke up, it was fully engulfed. the thick smoke in the forward end. unable to open a window and overwhelmed by smoke, the crew jumped overboard. another finding, two smoke detectors existed but the crew reports never hearing alarm. another piece, the ntsb found a small poorly-decide the escape hatch which they believe helped trap 34 victims inside. an attorney for the owner blamed feds for failing to tell people that lithium ion batteries can catch fire. the sheriff now identifying all victims because of death was smoking elation. the youngest victim, aged 16. >> made their recipes. may they know that those of us involved in the set operation continue to hold them in our hearts and in their prayers. stick with the families will have to prove negligence. the owner will have to prove that he did not know his crew was sleeping on the job, or that the boat was dangerous. he could claim as he has so far zero liability, like the owners of the titanic, which blamed the captain for

the 405 in los angeles in 2018, a tesla driver slammed into the back of a stopped fire engine the ntsb blamed driver inattention and over reliance on the driver assistance system the ntsb is still investigating a fatal crash in 2018 in california and another last march in florida before enabling auto pilot, tesla says drivers must agree to keep your hands on the steering wheel at all times and pay attention. if a driver takes his hand off the wheel, the car responds with visual and audio warnings. >> drivers are believing that the cars are autonomous, there are no fully autonomous vehicles that are on the market today. >> reporter: it may be called auto pilot but police are warning this is a very bad idea tom costello, nbc news, washington. >> that is not good. >>> when we come back, we all love a nap here or there, certainly not at wheel but tonight we'll tell you about the life-saving benefits just out >>> here is an eye opener, there is evidence released that taking a nap even once or twice a week can be life saving ann thompson explains. >> reporter: to sleep perchance to dream for

no no official list of names has been released just yet the ntsb says they're waiting on local santa barbara authorities to release that list and full the ntsb did say they have a family assistance team. they're on hand for those families and continue to just reiterate how sorry they were for this tremendous loss ken pam. >>noel, thank you for that 3 members of the same family are among the victims of the dive boat disaster and as kron four's rob fladeboe tells us from santa cruz include a longtime engineer at apple and his wife and daughter who loved animals as much as scuba diving. >>when she wasn't exploring the deep to make the woman in blue and her daughter tia pictured here at a summer camp outing we're a long time volunteers here at the santa cruz animal shelter, their love for scuba diving was well known here rivaled perhaps only by their passion for animals says director melanie so bored. >>very passionate about children and animals and also volunteer with native animal rescue and was part of our tours that we do every year to highlighutor enclosures that can't say for why l

. >> one of the ntsb officials on the scene, an interview you will not see anywhere else. are you going nuts? the reason i came on the jimmy kimmel show is i am not nuts. >> joe biden in the wake of several mishaps sits down with stephen colbert. >> defending a string of campaign trail gaffes. "fox and friends first" continues right now. you are watching "fox and friends first" on thursday morning. rob: category 3 hurricane dorian closing in on the carolinas where the window to evacuate is close. heather: the unthinkable distraction, coastal states are urged not to take any chances. rob: team coverage with janice dean, todd pyro in wilmington, north carolina. jillian: aishah hasnie is in charleston, south carolina where conditions are getting worse. the storm is 80 miles from you and inching closer. >> i can feel it hitting me hard. every now and then i feel that big band of gusts and powerful rain but i'm standing in the middle of one of dozens of flooded streets in charleston and you can see it is coming up to my ankles. is going to keep rising in the next couple hours.

we did speak to ntsb.ke to an expert who said there's a lot of stuff on board these dive boats, oxygen, propane, nitrox, which are all highly flammable. here's a sound byte. >> there's a lot of flammables on the boat. every boat fire that i have ever seen or heard of, if it's not contained almost immediately, it spreads quickly to the entire boat. there's literally no place to go. >> reporter: so the challenge today is coming up with a salvage plan for that hull out there, as well as conducting the autopsies. >> harris: thank you very much. i want to bring in allen deihl human factors investigator. interesting to get your perspective today. thank you for joining me. first of all, let's talk about a human factor of being trapped on that boat. you just heard william la jeunesse up top couldn't even get to the second level to get the fire extinguisher. >> that's always a problem. of course, even if they had fire extinguishers they probably wouldn't have had any protective equipment. with all those rubberized

in a moment i will speak exclusively with the lead investigator for ntsb on this case.st fox news correspondent william la jeunesse updating us live in santa barbara tonight. good evening, william. >> martha, there is still a lot we don't know. how did the fire start? why did it spread so quickly? was toxicology done on the crew? and did they use any of those fire extinguishers the coast guard says was aboard before abandoning ship? we also have new video from you from the coast guard. this is from a helicopter early the morning of the fire. this was shot around 6:50 in the morning, three hours after that mayday call. also coming up an interview with the couple that was asleep anchored nearby when the crew began banging on their boat looking for help. >> fully engulfed from bough to stern, i mean, and flames probably 30 feet high. it was totally gone. i mean, you know, and it was like my gosh, what do we do? >> it was such a helpless, hopeless feeling to watch that boat burn. >> so the search for survivors is over. dive teams were out today in low visibility hoping to r

ntsb says that driver never saw the fire truck and didn't brake.ll issue its final report tomorrow. >>> tesla could make drivers feel better about their car choice. the model 3 sedan is now completely leather-free. the electric car company shared this news with the video on twitter. the move comes after c.e.o. elon musk told shareholders in june a leather-free car was nothe works. they will now come with interiors made from synthetic leather. >>> meantime, lamborghini -- the luxury car maker unveiled its fastest hybrid yet. hybrid gas-electric power train. and if you are looking for one, well, you're out of luck. only 63 cars will be made and they have all been ordered. >>> fashion feud,ariana grande has a bone to pick with a retailer. f0 >>> i'm ken bastida at the live news desk. rescues now in full swing at the bahamas. neighbors seen helping one another after hurricane dorian pounded away at the bahamas on tuesday. they're finding people inatics, on roof tops and in shelters. residents were seen there using jet skis and boats to help people stra

ntsb released its preliminary report. all six crew member were sleeping when that fire started and that there was no nightwatchman as required. however, the sheriff of santa barbara county says there are no plans to file criminal charges for now. >>> can i talk about criminal charges at this point? no, i cannot. the investigation is on going and we have no indication that there are any criminal charges eminent or -- i can't give any information about than the cause of the fire is still to be determined, but investigators are looking into whether it may have started in an area where electronics were charging. it could be more than a year before the ntsb releases its final report. >>> now the santa barbara county's office says all 34 people have been identified. they released the names of 7 people yesterday. two people from the south bay, one person from fremont. 45-year-old person from half moon bay. >>> we are learning about a fremont teacher killed in that conception boat fire. his name was scott chance, he taught physic

the ntsb is taking a close look at lithium ion batteries. the batteries for phones as well as cameras. they are trying to see whether one of those batteries might have been overheated.>>> san francisco based old navy opening hundreds of new stores. ahead of a split from the iconic company. old navy seems to have found the magic mix recently even as parent company gap fortunes have faded. the fast-growing chain is now adding 800 additional stores. it is expanding to new markets with stores a little smaller than they were before. old navy now outsells the gap will become a standalone company later this year. >>> symantec slashing 177 bay area jobs. most of them at the headquarters in mountain view. the cybersecurity company and maker of norton antivirus software. has said it plans to downsize. enclose facilities this year. >>> a live look at sfo. some good news for travelers. the runway reconstruction project has hit its halfway .40 hours ahead of schedule. more than 2000 flights have been delayed or canceled since the construction started sat

and the ntsb is trying to determine of the night crewmen who the watchman was and what they may have seen. >>> new information is emerging into the missing connecticut mom jennifer dulos. yesterday the girlfriend turned herself in. draw co-nas and jennifer's husband fotis dulos were arrested over the summer. jennifer dulos disappeared in may. >>> an american woman has been arrested in the philippines for allegedly attempting to take a baby out of the country. jennifer talbot is from ohio. investigators say that she got through an airport immigration counter on wednesday before being intercepted at a boarding gate by airline personnel. >> no, they did not see the baby because she was burying the baby in a sling bag. >> the baby is only 6 days old. authorities say talbot gave an affidavit consenting to travel with the baby. >>> coming up, an airline pilot charged with navigation of a system. why he did it. >>> and trial fire. this is the "cbs morning news." shock e. if deadly ghost ship fire. this is the "cbs morning news." have laser drilled holes. they release medicine fast, for fast