one of the differences between nuclear navy and nuclear power plants right now is not a safety issueor a valuation. it is an appreciation of the value by the public, and that is something we are working on. >> i would like to take a moment for station identification. this is a station on the potus network, sirius channels 110 and 180. i am talking with marvin fertel, president of the nuclear energy institute. audio for this program can be heard every saturday at 9:30 on sirius/xm radio. one of nuclear plants so expensive to build, and how did they become so expensive? what can be done about it? >> when you are talking expensive, the cap will portion has always been more than coal plants or gas plants. i think coal plants are going to end up costing almost as much once you do with clean coal and carbon sequestration, but the reason our plans are so expensive is you have a lot of redundancy. >> is clean coal and oxymoron? >> i think clean coal is a real challenge. i think that is a real hard, a technical challenge. on the other hand, we need to have " as for a bonus for a long time, an

short. >> i looked out there and the weather conditions [unintelligible] i saw the nuclear submarine 300 yards away. >> the navy said no one on board was injured but the whole remain watertight and there was no threat to the environment from the nuclear reactor. but the pride [unintelligible] only a month ago the royal navy gave us exclusive access to show off their latest weapon. now there are plenty of red faces. this could prove to be a costly mistake. >> submarines are designed to take everything they are encountering -- there is an expectation [unintelligible] >> they have been testing -- sonar.g the sun the at its heart is a nuclear reactor, it can deploy anywhere in the world within two weeks. it carries an arsenal of torpedoes and missiles. its sonar has a range of 3,000 miles, so no one knows its location, it has 39,000 acoustic panels. there is still the possibility of human error. >> there was no issue with the submarine system. it looks like it is a navigational error. >> the navy says this was not a major incident but it is a major embarrassment. navy divers will assess the damage to this 1 billion

the embarrassment to the british navy remains. the nuclear-powered sub was stock for several hours after running aground. the military did dageontr, calling it a minor incident with no injuries and posing no environmental impact. the investigation is underway. military experts say the incident is anything but minor. >> it is quite an astonishing error to put the 7,000 ton submarine on some rocks. very serious. >> britain has ordered seven of the a suit -- astute-class submarines. >> prime minisr silvio bird was ony has ordered a crisis meeting to end -- silvio or less tony -- silvio berlusconi has ordered a crisis meeting. 20 police were injured and one town has already won dump which local residents -- one dump which local residents has say has poisoned their community. they need to improve the conditions at the dump site. >> an outbak o cholera is moving swiftly across haiti. with hospitals overwhelmed by the latest crisis, at least 140 people have died over the last 48 hours. 1500 more are extremely ill. most of the victims are earthquake

. >> couric: for the british navy, it was a royal screwup. its most advanced nucleard submarine was being tested off the coast of scotland today when it ran aground and got stuck in silt. the $1.5 billion sub stayed there for ten hours until other navy ships towed it to deeper waters. it wasn't damaged and no one was hurt, just a little embarrassed. now, this next story is more than embarrassing, it raises serious questions about u.s. national security. a report that the clinton white house once misplaced the one thing no president should ever lose. bob orr has details. >> reporter: it's an astonishing charge from the last general to command the military under president clinton. general hugh shelton says in the year 2000 clinton white house lost the presidential code needed to launch nuclear weapons. in his newly released memoirs, general shelton writes: >> this card and this process are extremely important to be fail safe and i think every president of the united states takes this responsibility extremely seriously. >> reporter: the codes, used to authenticate the pr

the navy is planning an overhaul of its base on the island that's now used as their home port for some marines so that it can accommodate nuclear carriers as well. >> china, the challenges, the norms of behavior out here, and so it would not be helpful for us to diminish our presence out here. what helps support deterrents is presence. and by having a solid presence here in guam, that people know we're here, people see us operating here as we're doing right now. >> nhk's reporter who covered the story is here. seems like china's military presence is being watched in the region. is guam going to going a front line? >> during the cold war guam was an important strategic location as a former base to counter possession by the former soviet union. as the cold war ended military units on guam were reduced. when the u.s. department felt they had completed their mission. once again guam is now at there full front of the u.s. strategy to confront china's expanding presence. china's military refers to our first island chain that links okinawa, taiwan and the philippines. and the chain that links mainland japan, guam and new guinea. china

the navy is planning an overhaul of its base on the island that's now used as their home port f some marines so that it can accommodate nuclear carriers as well. >> china, the challenges, the norms of behavior out here, and so it would not be helpful for us to diminish our presence out here. what helps support deterrents is presence. and by having a solid presence here in guam, that people know we're here, people see us operating here as we're doing right now. >> nhk's reporter who covered the story is here. seems like china's military presence is being watched in the region. is guam going to going a front line? >> during the cold war guam was an important strategic location as a former base to counter possession by the former soviet union. as the cold war ended military units on guam were reduced. when the u.s. department felt they had completed their mission. once againuam is now at tre full front of the u.s. strategy to confront china's expanding presence. china's military refers to our first island chain that links okinawa, taiwan and the philippines. and the chain that links mainland japan, guam and new guinea. china's p

nuclear submarine. ran aground off the coast of scotland and was stuck for 10 hours the until the navy could tow it duringub cost almost 2 billion dollars to pwichltd stealth technology makes it very difficult to detect. boat commander could face a court martial much easier to detect though after it ran aground obviously. not the idea. >>> more to bring you tonight. short stories get written up at the white house. >> stranded on crescent moon with no other floating in the the sea of ash littered with diamond. >> bay area student get a very warm welcome in washington at the white house. >> no helmet. no problem. jeans is.for bike riders. >> dozens of high school referee in seattle in trouble for showing their support for breast cancer awareness month. they used pitching whistle at hay school games last night and donated their game checks to the susan g komein for the cure. but the officials association that preside over the referee said they did not follow uniform rules and never got permission to do this. so now the referee may be prevented from officiating over the next 2 games which means they will also

submarine service in the navy has to go through a battery of tests and examinations and psychological evaluations because certainly being in a mine is tremendously worse than being on a nuclearine. but by the same token, they go down for 30 to 60 days and you don't see the sun. and so you have to be psychologically prepared for that and i would hope that miners would like wise you be submitted to some type of battery of testing to ensure that they are psychologically prepared for what they do. because whether going down into the earth or down under the water, there is a class stroe phobic capacity to what you are doing and you have to be comfortable with it. >> larry: you wouldn't let them do any quick round of interviews, would you? >> no, i would not do that. i would certainly not do that. i would definitely get them to a hospital, check their medical conditions, let them relax for a period of time, let them get their bearings back and get psychologically straight before dealing with the media. because, you know, they may say something because we all know how the media ought to take things out of context so quickly. >> larry: i'll get into politics with you in a little whi

nuclear repostering program. there's no question that the price tag which the navy was, you know, assuming was one that was going to potentially challenge the surface of our navy and again, it appears from your testimony that already in the last few months there's been some progress made in terms of the milestone, a class reduction. you know, i guess the question is, you know, that reduction has nothing to do with the fact that this administration is still committed moving forward with this one that appreciated if you can address that point and secondly, the capability that's been identified in terms of that program and our national security need for a deterrent also is not being compromised. it's about not trying end up with another program ten or 20 years down the road is going to unsustainable and really effect our ability to defend ourselves as a nation. wondering you can address that point. >> it's more of a question of how than where. if you don't get the how right, you can get the whether wrong. the helicopter is an example of that. we don't want to be in a situation where we design a submarine we know we

navy says it's moving aggressively to fix the problems in newer models of the nuclear attacked submarines. back to you. >> shannon: thank you. >>> the murder of jonbenet ramsey is back in the news as police are looking to conduct a whole new round of interviews. jonbenet ramsey's older brother burke has been contacted by authorities but hasn't been interviewed yet. burke was nine years old in 1996 when his sister was found bludgeon and strangled in the family basement. he is now in his early 20s. he is not believed to be a suspect. >>> tomorrow marks the start of a brand new term for the supreme court and the spotlight is on justice elena kagan. she formally took her seat in a ceremony on friday but it turns out she will spend a lot of her first term on the sideline, having to bow out of some of the biggest controversies headed to the high court. to talk about why, we are joined by tom dupree a former top official in the justice department. great to have you here. >> great to be here. >> shannon: explain for folks out there, she has been a solicitor general. why it will keep her out of so