my next guest is chairman and ceo of nucor, a major steel company.dimicco is with me right now. great to have ow the program. >> great to be here. >> you really are on the frontlines of business. >> always. >> always. yeah. where do you see the economy right now? is it a soft patch or something worse? >> best way i can sum up the economy today, severe draw the last 18 months. basically it's never happened. just look at the economic fundamental that is are out there today in our economy. we're in the worst recession since the great depression. >> wow. >> how else do you look at it when you have 26 million people that can't find work, they've given up looking for work or working part-time making 60%, 70% of what they were making three years ago. the economy is not good. >> it's a very tough story. i mean, when you say we're still in the greatest recession since, you know, the great depression, i mean, i thought things had improved a bit. you still feel that this is a very tough spot that we're in. >> extremely tough spot. we have a runaway budget defic