. >> palestinian-american human rights attorney, nura, joins me from washington and you have friends on the ground. what are their biggest concerns. >> the biggest concern is what israel will do next. because anybody who looks at a map and knows anything about the region knows that israel is the sole governing authority between the mediterranean sea and the jordan river, so though hamas is within the gaza strip and within the west bank, israel controls the entire region. so the fear is, what is the next step? there's a lot to be fearful about in terms of the actually kinetic violence that we're seeing, but what viewers don't know, four weeks before the kidnapping of the israeli settlers, the violence was a structural violence. for example, israel broke the 2012 ceasefire with hamas by slinking the nautical miles that the gaza fishermen are allowed to go out in hoard to fish for their families. this is an attack on livelihood and this starves families. >> but what you're talking about is structural violence. >> that's the violence we should be focusing on. [ talking at the same time ]

also with us, is nura, a palestinian human rights attorney. thank you both of you for being here.aron, you have a fascinating piece on foreign policy where you say that the u.s. should stay out of this conflict, at least for now. you write, there's a real danger that u.s. credibility, already badly undermined by the failure of kerry's efforts so far, could be harmed even more by yet another failed attempt at making peace. >> first of all, this is going to be a cruel and unforgiving humanitarian situation, largely for palestinians. although if hamas does make good on its threats to launch high trajectory weapons into densely populated weapons like tel aviv, it could literally change the game, but the reality is we have seen this movie twice before between israel and hamas. once in 2008 and 2009. israelis spend two weeks including a significant ground incursion, did a lot of damage, maybe some deterrence, but failed essentially to stop the acquisition of high trajectory weapons. they tried again in 2012. this time, the operation lasted a week. no ground incursion. limited air strike