the tournament is taking place in the nuremberg stadium on top of the ice hockey rink.they're expecting a record number deval -- a record number of spectators. the crowd -- >> a crowd of 50,000 is expected. for the players, it is like a trip down memory lane. >> when you look up and see the sky, it is like when you are a kid and played on a frozen lake. it is like a reminder of childhood. i'm excited. >> the idea for the winter game came from north america, where the nhl has held open games since 2007. the match in nuremberg will cost about 1 million euros, but organizers hope " pay off. >> believe it will be able to -- a the league will be able to profit from this, too. we hope to have more soccer games. >> and for the crowd, it is a once-in-a-lifetime experience. >> will be back with more news and sports at the top of the hour. stay with us. stay with us. >> these night owls, work for the sanitation

i think aggression is one of those things which again in nuremberg it was the crime of crimes there's something aspirational a very attractive about coming along and saying well without war you don't get war crimes you know crimes against humanity and these other horrible things but the fact of the matter is it is awfully difficult to arrive at a satisfactory legal definition of aggression and i do worry about using the courts simply as a tool to settle political grievances between nations george you want to jump in there. this go george you know yes it's very hard to see how. the invasion and destruction of iraq which u.s. government officials such as donald rumsfeld have admitted to cause the death of some one hundred thousand iraqis how that doesn't reach the threshold of gravity to warrant an investigation of this is warranting in investigations or is no investigation. when the camper was able to declare of the two months of what gaddafi did did indeed merit not only investigation but an indictment so it's going to be ridiculous to say well this this doesn't warrant it this does t

created at the end of world war two and the nuremberg trials and the tokyo trials were certainly not examples of impartial justice they were victor's justice the judges all came from the countries that had defeated nazi germany and imperial japan but the him but still we have to recognize that some kind of effort at impartial justice is. is necessary it's not perfect and there are always examples of mis misuse of power but the alternative is to have no international tribunal. present to investigate alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity so it's as i said at the beginning it's a work in progress we've got to have more of the countries of the world joining it but the alternative is just to scrap it and then to allow crimes against humanity and other violent crimes to go on but unpunished but they go unpunished all of the time ok been the i.c.c. isn't doing anything about it. well a fire in iraq today will only convict i don't think we can say they go on ok gentlemen we're going to go to a short break we're going to talk about how in the war crimes committed by the united states

gary nuremberg came back with dry shoes and some teary eyes. >> reporter: able years old, still -- 8rs old and still moves like the devil but is described by owner christy williamsson -- as. >> part boston terrier, part angel. >> reporter: filling her home with carbon monoxide as she slept. kayla was breathing it too. >> miss my baby girl and she now something was wrong. and she was trying to tell her mommy to wake up. weren't you baby? and she saved my life and probably the life of many other people in my condo complex. >> reporter: she woke christy up. christy got up. weaved as she walked and fell down and called 911. >> i said i know that the answers that i gave them i kept thinking oh my god. what -- what's my address? how old am i? what is my name? you know. and i realized then that you know, this was serious. >> reporter: she now has a new cause convincing people like her mom to get carbon monoxide detectors. >> obviously i didn't have one. and it could have cost me my life. and according to some of the doctors within five minutes if had not have gotten out of there i would not

action got under way on friday evening when reigning champions don't hosted -- bob dortmund hosted nuremberg. >> 16 minutes in, they had opportunities to put themselves ahead, but they were foiled. shortly after, dortmund took a well-deserved lead, a controversial call controversialfoul -- controversial fall led to a penalty. in the second half, the home side took a more relaxed approach, but a minute before the final whistle, another score, taking dortmund to an easy 3-0 win. >> in the other matches i mentioned, there are several clashes that bring together local rivals. to be will matches where passions will be running especially high bring together clubs from northern germany. this afternoon, the trouble to hanover. for their -- further west. >> the last time he was in dusseldorf was 16 years ago. since then, the site have been languishing in the lower division, which might explain why fans have been taunting opponents, calling the match a many-debbie. they say the real derby is against cologne. and of course it is for us, but i will not argue if they say colonna's the big one for them. t

he had been the prosecutor at the nuremberg war charles. he actually taken time off from the court and gone to nuremberg and been the chief prosecutor and then came back to the court. so rehnquist graduates from the stanford law school early at the end of 1952. he was actually in the class that would've graduated a semester later, the rehnquist finished his work. he was so smart he got out early. so it was clear when i was researching through his papers and lucky not the diaries that he had actually, that were on were on deposit with his papers, which were fascinating. he had six notebooks that were filled with his reminiscences, desires and early comments and memoirs. one of the things that was clear was that he really saw himself destined for some important job. he actually on the court probably are certainly somewhere in government because he had asked himself as a student, he actually written, what now, honorable w. h. rehnquist with it? s. a law school student, as an early vasko student. what now? said that's really fascinating because

the country has a romanticized notions of nuremberg. i think nuremberg was a significant accomplishment in its time but time has marched on and the law has progressed. i had hoped what we did at guantanamo, the military commission our grandkids would look on the way we look on our members as having been an achievement and not a detriment. to the end of my tenure, there were new officials in the chain of command, my policy had been we wouldn't use any evidence obtained by torture or the enhanced interrogation techniques and suddenly i had people over me who said president bush said we don't torture. who are you to say we do? all the evidence we are not using take it and get these guys convicted and at the shell on the road. when i joined the military, i believe very strongly in our country and our constitution and our principles and values. president obama when he accepted the nobel peace prize said do the right thing not when it is easy but when it is hard that makes us who we claim that we are and the last 10 or 11 years we have not be

the nuremberg laws were rules by law. what exists around most of the world and in cuba today come in my own experience, is that the most powerful, the most privileged, get together and decide what rights, if any, the minority have. the united states constitution is the rule by law. the rule by law is to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. it is the classic definition of law. now, the rule of law is what justice kennedy and justice roberts recently spoke about. in their opinions, one was involving the flag-burning case. texas vs. johnson. the other one was by justice kennedy. the other one was by justice roberts very recently in the demonstrations of military fit -- demonstrations at military funerals. they both said the same thing. they said, we don't like what these people did. as a matter of fact, what they did and their beliefs are abhorrent to most americans, and to us personally, but unless we protect their rights, all our rights are in jeopardy. and that is why the concept of a constitutional demo

the country has this romanticize the notion of nuremberg. i think nuremberg was a significant accomplishment in its time the time has marched on and law has progressed. i would hope that what we did at guantanamo that our grandkids would look back as having been an achievement and not a detriment. towards the end of my tenure, there was had some new officials, places above me in the chain of command that my policy and that i had people over may and the president says we don't torture and who are you to say we do. we need to get these guys convicted and get these -- get the show on the road. i believe very strongly in our country and constitution and our principles and values. when president obama accepted the nobel peace prize said it is doing the right thing not when it is easy but when it is hard that makes us who we claim we are. for the last 10-11 years, we have not been the land of the free and the home of the brave we have been the constraints and the cowardly because we have been living in fear in electing the government's run roughsh

commissions that -- i think the country has this romanticized notion or neuralberg, which i think nuremberg was a significant accomplish independent its time but time marched responsible the law has progressed, and i had hoped what we did at guantanamo, the military commissions-that our grandkids would look back on it the way we look back on nuremberg, having been an achievement and not a debt trip. towards the end of my tenure there were some new officials placed above me in the chain hoff command that maymy policy had been we wouldn't use any evidence obtained by torture oren hanesed interrogation techniques and then i had people appointed over me that said the president said we don't torture so all this evidence you're not using, get it out and take it in there and get these guys convicted and get this show on the road. when i joined the military -- i believe very strongly in our country and our constitution and our principles and our values. if president obama, when he acceptedded the nobel peace prize, said, it's doing the right thing not when it's easy, but when it's hard, that makes

like nuremberg. they took the nazi, and they dealt with that. we never talk about it.on about it. >> what i'm hearing from you there's this strain of supremacy in violence and vigilanteism that runs all the way through? >> that's all the way through. the movies i do are to counter. they're in the minority, by far. the "platoon" movie that was able to come out that whole wave of m.i.a. movies. they did "born on the fourth of july" the same way. but by the mid-90s. the 1990s. the pendulum was going the other way. we made "d-day" "and "the saving of private ryan." we did that two ways. >> it actually precedes that by a year or two? >> yes. if you look at bush, the second, he was obviously very influenced by the film because there was that rah rah spirit. "black hawk down" came out in 20000. and in 2000, "gladiator" was the best picture. these two hims are emblematic of power and might. in the same way that patton influenced nixon to go into cambodia. you saw it with george scott. pro-america. americans don't to lose. >> you have this new series called "the untold history

we have treaties that go back to important events like nuremberg that require us to investigate and prosecute things like torture. but it was an early indication from obama and he was going to carve out a national security and leave it in the hands of these hawks, people like john brenan and others. host: jonathan turley is a george washington university law professor and also writes for "usa today." host: he has been the lead counsel in several notable cases including one involving area 51 workers, nuclear couriers at oak ridge, and four former u.s. attorney general during the former a page and procedures. let's go to north carolina, on the republican line. caller: good morning mr., turley. it is very refreshing to hear what you are saying. doesn't seem like too many people, especially the mainstream media, is giving this topic of an imperial presidency. our i could listen to you and talk to you all morning but number one, the recent washington, d.c. appeals court ruling on the obama "recess appointments." if you could speak to that -- one other question -- regarding tying gave rise to the -

the country has this romanticize the notion of nuremberg. i think nuremberg was a significant accomplishment in its time the time has marched on and law has progressed. i would hope that what we did at guantanamo that our grandkids would look back as having been an achievement and not a detriment. towards the end of my tenure, there was had some new officials, places above me in the chain of command that my policy and that i had people over may and the president says we don't torture and who are you to say we do. we need to get these guys convicted and get these -- get the show on the road. i believe very strongly in our country and constitution and our principles and values. when president obama accepted the nobel peace prize said it is doing the right thing not when it is easy but when it is hard. that makes us who we claim we are. for the last 10-11 years, we have not been the land of the free and the home of the brave -- we have been the constraints and the cowardly because we have been living in fear in electing the government's run rou

we have treaties that go back to important events like nuremberg that require us to investigate and prosecutengs like torture. but it was an early indication from obama and he was going to carve out a national security and leave it in the hands of these hawks, people like john brenan and others. host: host: he has been the lead counsel in several notable cases including one involving area 51 workers, nuclear couriers at oak ridge, and four former u.s. attorney general during the former a page and procedures. let's go to north carolina, on the republican line. caller: good morning mr., turley. ♪ cait is very refreshing to hear what you are saying. doesn't seem like too many people, especially the mainstream media, is giving this topic of an imperial presidency. our i could listen to you and talk to you all morning but number one, the recent washington, d.c. appeals court ruling on the obama "recess appointments." if you could speak to that -- one other question -- regarding tying gave rise to the civil-rights movement, i'm sure you know who charles kraut hamer is. as a conservative, i want eve

movies, standee kramer made a movie called "it's a mad, mad, mad, mad, world and" and" judgment at nurembergf sick, potty humor and private part desecration that we're going to be seeing here. it may be successful. but it's not a good movie for young kids. >> brian: "movie 43", don't see it. >> they'll probably eni didn't it, but i think it's a bad thing. >> brian: 13 minutes before the top of the hour. it's the number one country song in america. ♪ i'll take you up and down these hills ♪ ♪ let me show you how ♪ . >> brian: here is the surprise, randy houser is here live to perform it next. but first let's check in with a guy who never made it in country music, not that they didn't want to, bill hemmer. >> i do own a cowboy hat. does that count? >> brian: that does count. we'll talk about that on the radio in a little while. >> see you then. we are minutes away from hearing secretary clinton's explanation for the first time on what happened in benghazi on september 14. we waited for mounts for this. -- months for this. what i think the viewer will find striking is not just what she has to sa