have a look at what your business minister, nus ghani, told us.quoted anywhere. and so the language of fear and demeaning our political opponents is not a conservative value that i recognise, and i see that, steve, you agree as well. and we just shouldn't stoop to it. and furthermore, to get the board of deputies to issue a statement to slap that comment down shows that his comments do not work, especially when they attract such condemnation from the people that you are purporting to support. and fundamentally, have we not learned anything from zac goldsmith's similar attempt in his mayoral campaign that ended in abject failure? who is right? susan hall, the tory mayoral candidate for london, or your business minister, nus ghani? look, i wasn't at either of these events. you are asking me to comment on snapshots of information. well, i've given you the words of susan hall. i've just played you the words of nus ghani. it's pretty straightforward, isn't it? who is right? susan hall or nus ghani? look, you're asking me to comment on snapshots of info