michael nutter is the former mayor of philadelphia.and christopher swanson is the sheriff of genessee county, michigan. he got national attention for hiapproach to demonstrators in flint this weekend. here's how some of that went. >> we want to be with y'all for real. so i took the helmet off, laid the batons down. i want to make this a parade, not a protest. you tell us what you need. >> walk with us. walk with us. walk with us. walk with us. walk with us. walk with us. walk with us! (cheers and applause) >> so sheriff swanson watching that video, why did you decide to do that? you were expressing solidarity with these protestors. >> you are right. and thanks for having me. and i can tell you that that night on may 30th was a history on how to handle protests in a way that was our goal. our city is already under enough oppression. we are already dealing with economic issues, water crisis and a pandemic. and it was just the right thing to do. as a veteran police officer who knows the community, i saw acts of kindness with fist bumps, a

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. >> next question is from nellie nutter, abc 7. of the total people arrested for curfew violations, can you please give us a breakdown where they're from, what cities, and if they've been released? >> that information is still in process as far as where they're from. our initial assessment of saturday's -- when i reported them, of ten felonies, seven were from san francisco, and three were from other cities. we were here and officers were working throughout the night, and as the sheriff says, that booking process is very time-consuming, so we'll deliver that information as soon as we have accurate information. for the information that i reported yesterday on the ten, seven of the ten were from the city of san francisco. >> thank you, chief. your next question is from mission local. from where were the 200 officers that came in drawn from? >> they were from all over the state. they were from as far south as santa barbara, and some were from the north. i actually had an opportunity, last night during my shift, to go and thank them. t

during the recession in '09 for example, mayor nutter and i decided we wouldn't lay off policemen butwouldn't hire any new police officers so we allowed attrition to take its toll. it takes a long time to recover from that. at a time you have rising crime rates, not only new york, but philadelphia is pushing 200 murders for the first of july. milwaukee and l.a. is up. i don't know if there's a relationship at this point in time, but it's very, very important that we keep our eye on the ball here and not let crime get out of control. it is also important that if money is going to be taken where is it going to go? cities are facing tremendous deficits right now. if it goes to social services, make sure it goes there. the responsibility for responding to those calls for service that people are talking about now will not go away. >> new york city and again, i know you say you didn't work in new york, but we're seeing it play out over this 24 hour period, $1 billion budget cut, a big chunk of it will be from canceling the hiring of new officers which you talk about right there. about 1,600

joining me to discuss, the former mayor of philadelphia, michael nutter.ichael, your reaction to the protests that have taken place over the last week. >> thanks for having me on, stephanie. protesters, whether philadelphia residents or people from nearby clearly not only have a message but want to be heard and -- [ inaudible ] how we ensure public safety -- 40-some million americans are out of work. the damage and destruction not only in philadelphia but in many cities. we need to help entrepreneurs to get their lives back together and get people back to work all at the same time making sure that more citizens don't get sick because we are still in the midst of a pandemic. so it's a lot of stuff going on all across america. certainly in philadelphia. but there's time now for healing and -- [ inaudible ] >> mayor, unfortunately, we're having an audio problem. i can't hear you. we'll take a quick break. hopefully address it during the commercial break. that's what happens on live tv and hopefully we'll talk some more on the other side. >>> coming up, we're

. >> next question is from nellie nutter, abc 7. of the total people arrested for curfew violations, can you please give us a breakdown where they're from, what cities, and if they've been released? >> that information is still in process as far as where they're from. our initial assessment of saturday's -- when i reported them, of ten felonies, seven were from san francisco, and three were from other cities. we were here and officers were working throughout the night, and as the sheriff says, that booking process is very time-consuming, so we'll deliver that information as soon as we have accurate information. for the information that i reported yesterday on the ten, seven of the ten were from the city of san francisco. >> thank you, chief. your next question is from mission local. from where were the 200 officers that came in drawn from? >> they were from all over the state. they were from as far south as santa barbara, and some were from the north. i actually had an opportunity, last night during my shift, to go and thank them. t

. >> next question is from nellie nutter abc 7. of the total people arrested for curfew violations can you please give us a breakdown where they're from what cities, and if they've been released? >> that information is still in process as far as where they're from. our initial assessment of saturday's -- when i reported them of ten felonies, seven were from san francisco, and three were from other cities. we were here and officers were working throughout the night, and as the sheriff says that booking process is very time-consuming, so we'll deliver that information as soon as we have accurate information. for the information that i reported yesterday on the ten, seven of the ten were from the city of san francisco. >> thank you, chief. your next question is from mission local. from where were the 200 officers that came in drawn from? >> they were from all over the state. they were from as far south as santa barbara, and some were from the north. i actually had an opportunity last night during my shift to go and thank them. the way