it's the nypd. >> you know what? i will agree with you, the policemen on the street to stops and frisks should have a pad or a computer and says this is why i stop so and so. i agree. >> they won't do it. >> okay. wait a minute. they don't do it. >> one third, 36 pierce. >> now they will do it. had they done it before. >> so maybe something good. if they do away with this program. that would be a disaster. >> i don't disagree with you at all on that. >> all right. counselor. is it legal will give us their opinion osen the stop and frisk situation later on. directly ahead the three black teenagers that severely beat a white boy in court today. we will show you what happened down in florida. in florida charles krauthammer hillary >> bill: as we reported last night. 315-year-olds in gulfport florida attacked a white boy on a school bus. >> still nothing i can do. leave that boy alone. leave him alone. leave him alone! >> you know y'all going to jail. y'all going to jail. >> bill: well, today the three boys were in court

they were created by the nypd.he goal by the nypd was to infiltrate my board, but not only to listen in on our events or access clients but want to take a position, an official position on the board of my organization. >> tell me about the chilling affect of that? >> you just don't trust anyone. how can you trust who you work with between us with our own community. that's the country i was born in, and this is not why my parents came here from palesti palestine. >> i suppose i know how i would respond to this next question, how would you respond to it. if your organization is not doing anything wrong, what does it matter? >> i'm an american. i'm a new yorker. i deserve privacy just like any other new yorker. if they're planting people in the one guy who was planning to blow up an abortion clinic, they would be outraged, and that outrage needs to come from the muslim community. there is this alarming information of blanket surveillance of the muslim community in the northeast. >> labored a terrorist enterprise, and

it's the nypd. >> you know what? will agree with you, the policemen on the street to stops and frisks should have a pad or a computer and says this is why i stop so and so. i agree. >> they won't do it. >> okay. wait a minute. they don't do it. >> one third, 36 pierce. >> now they will do it. had they done it before. >> so maybe something good. if they do away with this program. that would be a disaster. >> i don't disagree with you at all on that. >> all right. counselor. is it legal will give us their opinion osen the stop and frisk situation later on. directly ahead the three black teenagers that severely beat a white boy in court today. we will show you what happened down in florida. in florida charles krauthammer hillary weekdays are for rising to the challenge. they're the days to take care of business. when possibilities become reality. with centurylink as your trusted partner, our visionary cloud infrastructure and global broadband network free you to focus on what matters. with custom communications solution

the city, through the nypd, has a policy of incorrect racial profiling." the judge also took aim straight at new york city officials for their rabid defense of the program, saying, "the city's highest officials have turned a blind eye to the evidence that officers are conducting stops in a racially discriminatory manner. they have willfully ignored overwhelming proof that the policy of targeting, quote, the right people, is racially discriminatory and, therefore, violates the united states constitution. this indifference was further demonstrated by many officials' apparent belief that racial profiling is a myth created by the media." that scathing indictment of the new york city leadership prompted, perhaps not surprisingly, an extremely defensive response from new york city mayor michael bloomberg and new york city police commissioner, ray kelly. >> our police officers follow the law and follow the crime. they don't worry if their work doesn't match up to a census chart. let's be clear. people have a right to walk down the street without being targeted by

it is the largest force in the country, with 35,000 uniformed nypd officers. their presence on new york city streets is considered a deterrent to crime. the latest controversy surrounds the police who avoid being seen. newly revealed documents obtained by the associated press show how the nypd secretly labeled mosques as terrorist organizations. this gave them legal grounds to use informants and undercover officers to spy on activities inside the places of worship. revelations that have shocked many new york muslims, including the arab-american association, which was monitored by police. >> to think in your police barman has put me and members -- the new york police department has put me and numbers of my community singly because we are muslim, that is the problem. for the lease apartment, being muslim is already the crime. that is what really outrages me the most. >> from the islamic society up a ridge in brooklyn, he found that his group was under surveillance as well. >> when you lose your hope, your freedom, when you do not find justice, when you do not fi

eventually tsa cleared him, as well did the nypd. but jetblue under the assumption he was muslim would not allow him to board the flight. >> how frequently does stuff like this happen? what do non-muslim people need to know about the difficulty of flying while muslim or hindu, which people have mistaken for being muslim? >> unfortunately, this is a frequent occurrence. from personal experiences, being so-called randomly selected at the airport, as well as various incidents in the media of people being targeted because perhaps the name sounds foreign or they speak another language. it happens quite often and makes traveling for a lot of americans a complete nightmare. they are forced to undergo prolonged security measures and extensive invasive interviews merely because of a religion they identify with. so i would say it is pretty often. >> when it comes to doing something about this, is this something that needs to be addressed legislatively with new laws to protect muslims? or by repealing laws that allow them to be targeted to begi

millions, 5e million, 6 million people in the nypd database. ay kelly and the letter couple of years ago said -- this is important for us to have because it helps us to investigate crimes -- translates into rounding up the usual suspects. there were many who believed in fact the proliferation of stop and frisk of hundreds of thousands, millions of new yorkers and you're so innocent they walked away without even a summons, was prompted by the police department's desire to get a database of all black and brown new yorkers. that may be a little extreme, but who knows? who knows how it was really being used. we do know the collateral damage of the stop and frisk program that targeted people of color is totally out of control, was this police database of innocent new yorkers and there is no reason why there should be a permanent police file of innocent people by virtue of stop and frisk. >> we invited the new york police department on. the deputy commissioner paul browne could not join us but it's in the following comment -- >> funny the court didn'

it means anyone who attends their prayer meetings could be subject to surveillance by the nypd. >> we came to this country for what, freedom, justice. this is the most important thing you live for. and when you in the united states there is no democracy, no justice, no freedom, what do you think. >> reporter: he said that officer kelly must release the information that he has. >> our kids are learning in an after school program. women are learning english. food pantry, mosque, what is it that they are in our mosque for ten years at a time. >> reporter: am. >> i feel betrayed. i feel stopped in the back. we are the people trying to forge a cooperation between nypd and our communityish and you come up with being surveilled just because we are muslim. >> the commissioner insists that it is legal. >> what we're pursuing is consistent with the federal judge position. >> reporter: over the last year mayor bloomberg has resisted criticism claiming that it's necessary to keep the city safe. >> reporter: early organizations have sued the nypd accusing the department of unconstitutional rogerre

many organizations have sued the nypd for profiling and suspici suspicionless surveillance. cath turner, al jazeera. >> a lie and libel is how the former president of cuba fidel castro described edward snowden. the newspaper cited several sources including one close to the state department. >>> as japan continues to recover from the damage the fukushima nuclear reactor, the nation is reassessing it's nuclear infrastructure. >> reporter: up the coast from the damaged fukushima reactor. it's reactors are intact but shut down. all about two of japan's 50 reactors are off the safety checks while the public debates abandoning nuclear energy completely. >> i'm against nuclear power. it's too dangerous and too close to the sea. >> it's hard, but we all know it's a risk. >> reporter: japan has a love-hate relationship with nuclear power. one reason, national di sas dis. japanese know the dilemma is a lack of alternatives. imported oil and gas cost the fortuncountry a fortune. japanese nuclear energying was supposed to be proficient and reliable until the fukushima nuclear disaster e

the nypd does have sources. they have sources everywhere. the boston police have great commissioners. they have sources everywhere. if the fbi had gone to them, they would've figured it out. outolder brother was thrown of his mosque in february of last year because he had become so radicalized. did the fbi never found that out. the boston police did never -- not think was significant. you have to put political correctness aside. you have to realize that islamic terrorists are going to come from the islamic community. we can go through elisabeth knit groups. -- through a list of ethnic groups. that we have to use common sense. the fbi is not allowed to because of the attorney general's guidelines. >> comments? >> i will let you take one shot at that. for those of us who want to defend the strong, hawkish view on national security at home and abroad, how much should we be for reforming some of these major institutions? 10 years later, his homeland security right? if it is true that tsa has to have the same kind of people in the winter and summ

ruling that the nypd must modify its stop and frisk program. liberals are overjoyed but not so fast. the unintended consequence of a slowdown in stop and frisk could be death the

nypd says, it searches more minorities if that's the case, that's where the higher crime rates are in those neighborhoods. a racial composition of a person is much more likely to get searched. if the program has problems these people are stopped without reasonable suspicion, it could be in trouble. >> bill, i want to get a sense from you first of all. do you think stop and frisk tactics are effective in fighting crime. but perhaps better put, looking forward the question becomes what tactics are acceptable in poor areas predominantly minority where crime is concentrated? >> first off, question and frisk is the fundamental tactic used by every police in every community every day. it's what they do, and it's what you want them to do. the challenge in new york is to how it was done. basically it needs to be done constitutionally. you can't break the law to enforce it. it needs to be done respectfully and it needs to be done consistently, consistently in white neighborhoods as well as minority neighborhoods. those are the three requirements. what new york is going to have to do is take a

joining me now, former nypd captain and the author of "the crime numbers game."snbc's joy reid. john, could you tell us what the nypd's rationale is for stop-and-frisk and what is left of it now after this federal court ruling? >> well, certainly, their rationale behind this case really is they feel it is bringing down crime. that is the key to the entire thing is stopping violence. but unfortunately, their position on this is totally misguided. they're completely wrong, and all the statistics indicate they're wrong on this, and why they continue to push this is just untenable. there is just no reason for them to continue. in 2002, when police commissioner kelly came into office, crime was already down 63%. so to claim that somehow a 600% increase in stop-and-frisk is causing a crime decrease is just lunacy. it is just completely wrong. >> and john, the nypd became a statistics-driven department over the last several years on everything. and under bill bratten, had he was running it. and can you explain to me why these statistics don't impress them the way they i

anyone who attends their prayer meetings can be subject to investigation and also violence by the nypd. >> we came to this country for what? freedom, justice. this is the democracy. this is the most important thing you live for. when you find in the united states that it's not democracy, no justice, no freedom, what do you think? >> reporter: muslim groups say police commissioner ray kelly must reveal the information he says he has which justifies the terrorist labels and widespread monitoring. >> our kids learn in an after school program, women learning english, food pantries, mosques, sanctuaries, what sends them into our organization for ten years at a time. >> reporter: auk mad was appointed to the advisory council by commissioner kelly but has now resigned. >> i feel betrayed and stabbed in the back. we are the people that are trying to forge cooperation between the nypd and our community, and then you come up with being saying that just because we're muslims. >> reporter: on national television the police chief defended the surveillance programs and insisted they are legal. >> we

it's harming the nypd's ability to work with the community to fight crime. and that is really what is an essential part of community policing. and so here what we have is an opportunity, is the mayor, the police commissioner going to take the court up on this opportunity to join with people who want to bring reform, or are they going to ignore the mountains of evidence and just continue to appeal and waste the resources of the public. >> so you're not here tonight, and neither of the two plaintiffs to gloat, even though i said congratulations. you really hope that this can lead to some healing and bring about a new day in the city and in cities around the country? >> absolutely. i mean, this is an opportunity to build back public trust and confidence in nypd. and we really hope the police department goes forward in that vein, rather than turning a blind eye and stonewalling a process that a court has ordered should go forward. >> well, i hope that all of cuss do that. i hope the city responds. david ourlicht and nicholas peart and sunita patel, i want to tha

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i don't believe the nypd has violated them.nformation that was given to the federal junk with the ru -- judge a week ago she made her decision without looking at the data that was given to her. 90% of the lawyers for the other side of the city actually said 90% of them were legitimate searches that went on. and quite honestly, suspicion is written out in that supreme court ruling there are four or five different examples. for a police officer to see something suspicious, that officer has the right to stop the person in the proprocess, one of the biggest complaints that so many stop, question and frisk do not end up with an arrest, do not end up with a desk appearance ticket. >> i'm glad they don't because you stop a lot of people. we don't have that bad an estimate there's a point i want to make here. often you hear the cry that they've stopped all these people, made so few arrests. but you've taken some 80,000 guns off the street. >> right. >> that means there's 80,000 less illegal guns that can be reloaded and used to shoot i

but a former nypd official notes a mosque is different than a church or a temple.plays a bigger role in society and it is day-to-day -- expits day-to-day activities. if something bad is going to happen they will hear about it in the mosques. you know what i would rather focus on? this. >> don't miss -- don't mess with that cat. >> do the police have a point? they are not just religious places. they are meeting places. and at times there are certain radicals that make plans. >> let me frame it for you. in 1996 steve emmerson did a documentary called jihad in america. he wept inside the mosque -- he went inside the mosques from lawrence, kansas to texas and brooklyn, new york where they were talking about jihad, jihad, jihad, jihad, raise money, islam and his book "shade of the cor cor -- koran and there is one and it is called islam because they don't separate politics from religion. these mosques -- if they say people in new york and around the world, we have terrorist training camps in new york and in seattle, washington in the woods. there are places they don't t

it is curious it was a judge on not the nypd that is starting to get rid of this racist policy. "slate" quotes the police commissioner ray kelly for often defending this, saying he would focus on young blacks and hispanics because he wanted to instill fear in them and he says perhaps reform needs to start at the top. >> thank you with the international press review. olympic oval champion looked disgruntled -- polevault champion looked disgruntled. both men fell three attempts. [indiscernible] it was a devastating blow for the frenchman who dominated the event all season. germany.e went to there is a friendly against belgium on wednesday. they had losses to uruguay and brazil. an outburst that a journalist earned him a three-match ban. >> the coach has confidence in me and i want to repay the confidence. as to whether he is taking a to say. is not for me everyone has the right to a second chance. i did not kill anyone. in 2010 there were incidents that were a lot more serious. players have the right to a second chance, and that is what the coach told me. up to me to not repeat th

some of my classmates, for example, were spied on by the nypd in connecticut. and so i think that a lot of this is really about social control. i think that a lot of what's underlying this. and yet, our mayor, for example, doesn't want the kind of social control that would monitor the way that police act towards black and brown communities. and that's pretty scary. >> it's sort of treating communities as suspect, but not wanting the police to have their own action, sort of pre-cleared by the public. we'll talk more about this when we come back. because if the police are watching us, who, indeed, is watching the police? the judge the new york's stop and frisk case has a plan for that. let's get the ball rolling. in houston, coca-cola's club balón rojo, is kicking off fun and fitness on and off the field, with the help of soccer stars. these free clinics, help kids gain confidence in their game, and learn how important it is to get moving every day. it's part of our goal to inspire more than 3 million people, to re-discover the joy of being active this summer. se

>> it shows a review of the facts from 2004 to 2012 that the nypd presuming guilty or suspicious, this many hundreds of thousands of people was not constitutional because it violates equal treatment, the racial disparity and separate from that, it violates the fourth amendment law about what it takes to stop someone. when you are under a stop like this, a stop and frisk under this policy, under the law, that means you, as an individual, should feel free to walk away. you are only there in a voluntary capacity. that is the legal requirement before you get into race for this kind of stop, which is under a supreme court opinion called terry. most people in new york and the judge found today in this ruling, that it doesn't seem to go down that way and feel voluntari voluntarily. for most people, it's not fair. in fact, one more statistic while running through the numbers is whites stopped under this program actually were found more often to have weapons or contraband than minorities yet this program, as you explicated shows minorities being the targets. >> she said this is not ordering an

and an nypd officer indicted on lying about the arrest of the new york times photographer. he claimed he was using a bright flash to interfere with another arrest, but the camera did not even have a flash. more on this case in today's show. hello, it is tuesday, august 27 at 5:00 p.m. in washington dc. we start with the latest from syria. u.s. officials have laid the groundwork for a possible military attack. here is chuck hagel speaking to the bbc on the department of defense's preparedness. >> the u.s. department of defense is ready to carry out those options. if that would occur, it would occur with coordination of international partners. >> a response to a chemical weapons attack that occurred outside of damascus on august 21. the international allies say it is undeniable that the syrian president and his regime launched those attacks. the syrian foreign minister said he rejects "utterly and completely" that they have used chemical weapons. they have been moved closer to the shores of syria. intervention in the sovereign country is quite unpopular with americans. 42% do

minorities claiming they are routinely targeted by the nypd stop and frisk program in blatant racial profile. this man said it happened to him. >> i remember them banging my head into this. >> reporter: he told abc's bill we're it's happening too often. >> how many times have you been stopped and frisked. >> seven times. >> you're hold old. >> 17. >> reporter: today a federal judge ruled that they've been engaging in racist by searching those they deem suspicious. 84% of those stopped by police were black and latino males. the men who brought the suit against the city spoke of justice. >> new york city police department now has to be part of the solution because the judge has agreed with us that it was a big part of the problem. >> reporter: the mayor and police chief issued a warning. >> let's stop and frisk has saved countless lives and we know that most of those lives saved based on the statistic have been black and hispanic young men. >> reporter: the judge is requiring a monitor to oversee nypd practices. and calling for a trial program for some to wear cameras. they do in an in

we are the people who are trying to forge a cooperation between the nypd and our community and then you come up with being surveilled just because we are muslims. >> on national tuition the police chief -- on national television the police chief upheld his direction. >> being done by a federal judge's direction. >> new york mayor bloomberg, claiming they're necessary to keep the city safe. >> three human rights organizations including the american civil rights union have sued the nypd, accusing the department of unjustified surveillance. muslim groups have made it clear they won't back down. cath turner al jazeera. >> if they know they're texting someone who is driving, a new jersey couple sued a teen who was texting a driver. the driver then crashed into the couple's motorcycle leaving them with severe leg injuries. >>> for nearly two weeks now fire crews in california have been working nonstop battling the fierce wildfire around yosemite national park. in some cases crews are using a drone to fly over the blaze. there are over 4,000 firefighters trying to get a handle on this stubborn

but in the nypd's vast stop-and-frisk program, which could be called the nypd's get the guns off oursks have produced weapons of any kind. and the statistics show that the white people who are stopped and frisked are 40% more likely than black people to have one of those weapons. a whopping 1.4% of white people frisked by the nypd were revealed to be carrying a weapon of some kind, not all of which were guns. while only 1% of black people stopped by police were found to be carrying a weapon, it is that astonishingly low yield that the mayor and the police commissioner want to preserve and protect. and if it violates the constitution to them it is still worth preserving. and if stop-and-frisk violates basic human dignity, it is still worth destroying. it is worth maintaining the relationship with the police department, never mind that the best crime fighting tool of them all is uniting the community support for law enforcement which can only happen in communities that believe that the police respect them and are really there to serve and protect them. today, the city of new york filed

nypd, they don't do it in oakland and don't do it in chicago. >> they should. >> they should. but that's not where the highest crime is. highest crime across the country is where poverty rates are the highest. flint, michigan, 41%, detroit, 41%, oakland, 27%, memphis. that's where the tie is between violent crimes and poverty rates. let me give you an example. new jersey has stop and frisk. have 33% per 100,000 murder rate, highest in the country and have stop and frisk. >> i don't think this is -- >> jobs, poverty? >> i think jobs and poverty are key to everybody's success. that's not the police department's job. and i don't think it is determinative to take numbers like that like bob is doing, saying they weren't arrested. well, how do you know how many crimes they didn't commit because they were deterred? >> exactly. >> some of the highest -- >> success rate with mayor bloomberg with this than anybody else not in law enforcement who maybe had been a victim of a crime. >> what are you referring to. >> loss of people. >> i am serious, dead serious. do the research, not depend

from td ameritrade. >> it's the notion that the nypd engages in racial profiling.hat simply is recklessly untrue. it is prohibited by law and by our own regulations. we train our offices that they need realm suspicion and i can assure you that race is never a reason to conduct the stop. the nypd is the most racially and ethnically diverse police department in the world. >> let's get to the debate. williams is sitting alongside me, a member of the new york city council. leading critics of stop and frisk. you recognize him. he is hailing from nigeria. were you born there? >>. >> from d.c. >> law and order and nurse jackie and graceland. he has been all over. what's that movie? >> lottery came out a couple of years ago. yeah. >> in milwaukee, the sheriff supports the controversial tactic of stop and frisk. you have been the most focal critic. what about the argument that 97% of the murderers committed in this city are committed by black or latino. who are you going to stop? chinese grandmas? >> i don't know. i'm the that i go to a lot of funerals. it's unfortunate. we

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. >> new york city mayor michael bloomberg denouncing this week's federal court ruling that the nypdtop-and-frisk program violates the constitutional rights of minorities. the judge ruled monday stop-and-frisk amounted to, quote, indirect racial profiling. she ordered police officers in certain presifrpgts to wear body cameras for a year. all right, dan. so what are the practical implications of this for policing? >> well, let's just put a couple of facts on the table ahead of this. one's an informal fact. anyone who comes to new york understands that it is just a totally safe city. it's remarkable that a city of this size can be so safe. secondly, new york has the lowest murder rate since the early 1960s, in large part because of this policy, which my yore mike bloomberg has had to fight to support for the entire last four years. he's been completely behind commissioner ray kelly against this opposition. now you have the judge's decision. we're having a mayoral election in the fall. mike bloomberg won't be there anymore. i think the effect is police are going to step back a little b

. >> reporter: a federal court judge ruled in august that the nypd application of the stop and frisk tactic violates the constitutional rights of minorities. she said the nypd has an unwritten policy of racial profiling and called for a federal monitor to oversea resee forms, including officers wearing body worn cameras. mayor michael bloomberg has appealed the ruling. >> she ignored the real world realities of crime. we go to where the reports of crime are. those unfortunately happen to be poor neighborhoods and minority neighborhoods. >> reporter: police in arizona are testing out cameras in a pilot program that began last october. they aim to report an officer's interactions with citizens. the glasses i am wearing have a camera attached to the side. when i press this button, it records everything that i can see. the video could backup or refute a complaint that an officer acted inappropriately. police say that those wearing the cameras have received two-thirds fewer complaints than those who are not. >> is this your vehicle? >> yes. >> do you have insurance and registration? >> wh

a toyota executive shows up at the house of an nypd officer carrying balloons.d officer michael dee in the backyard having a family barbecue. >> why would have a toyota executive show up at a family barbecue? >> because it was a commercial and all set up? >> it is kind of a commercial, but listen. >> we understand, mr. dee that you bought a camry a couple of months ago. the sales team in california told me that it was the 50 millionth car that toyota sold here in the united states. to commemorate that we wanted to say thank you and basically give you the title of the car because toyota has now paid off that car. >> what? >> are you kidding me? that's freaking cool. >> the car is his, no more payment. but this gets even better. >> what we're also going to give to you today, just to say thank you, is a brand new 2013 rav4. >> what? now he has two? and look how beautiful. a brand new 2013 rav 4. you can see he's got a family, he's got kids in is going to be perfect. >> this is like a dream of some kind, right? like the commercials. someone is giving you a car with