it's not just nyu langone medical center you spent so much of your time and money but education, which going to get to. and full disclosure, i'm on the board of nyu and proud of that. what do you think of the tax plan they're talking about? ken: i think at the end of the day, they'll leave it alone. the damage that will be done to charities, in my case it doesn't matter. why? because the minimal alternative tax, okay? and that's fine. as far as i'm concerned, take what you want from me, this country has been great to my wife and me and our family. i can't believe all the wonderful opportunities i've had, and i can't believe, thank god the success i've had. my philanthropy is driven from one thing, and that's giving back to those places that were there for me. nyu, i think all of us that have done well, and some of us who have done extremely well like myself, i think there's a strong moral obligation to make sure that we do our part to give the next kids the same chance that we had. on the other hand, there's so many people, so much hurt in this world, you go -- i'm on the board of the