there's o'dowd, more people are identified as liberals and conservatives. more people have really, they will discover liberals and conservatives in awful names the and conservatives would do the same thing. they think the other side thinks they don't love america. that's something, that's what we've taken it too far. >> guest: leadership. it starts with leadership. a leader is somebody who can take a variety of individuals, create a vision and have everybody working together to accomplish that. a bad leader is someone who says to this group, that group is against you. they are the bad ones. they would get everything that you want for them. that's bad leadership. another aspect of multitasking. during the current administration we had -- in the previous administration there wasn't enough multitasking. it was like focused on war and try to make sure that america didn't get attacked again. which have to be able to multitask. so we've had a pretty long drought since without the kind of leadership that says, america, let's remember who we are. have we made mista