that's georgia o'keefe's. >> it's just going to get prettier. going to get prettier. >> one of o'keefe's biographers infamously described this landscape as garish, vulgar, and in poor taste, which if you look around is pretty hard to comprehend. this is such the other side of the universe for somebody who lives like i do. live in cities, for whom a backyard this big is inconceivable. the idea that there's a certain type of personality who's drawn towards open spaces like this. >> you know, this country, it either embraces you or within a year it spits you out. >> we reached the end of our trail at a place called valley of thieves, once said to be a haven for infamous cattle wrestlers, of course. they call it the rabbit. ladies, you know what i'm talking about. jesus, i'm in my 50s. find a distinguished segue into adulthood one of these days. three generations are here with me this evening. herman, david, and max. we'll do our best to put together a little meal. >> anybody want some coffee? >> who am i kidding? i'm a city boy. going to get all ja

go ahead with ed o'keefe. caller: good morning. i just want to say to all the people out there in the world that ted cruz has really shown his true colors. he is nothing but a communist and he needs to take his ball and go back to canada and needs to be kicked out of the i just wished the jithes would just kick him out of the united states. thank you. host: all right. dave? good morning to you, joining us from michigan, republican line. caller: good morning. to that fellow that just kicked ted cruz out of the united states, what do you say we kick obama out to kenya? that sounded very rude and inconsiderate and out of place. i'd like to say that obama care is hurting seniors. much more than the younger people that are working. are orking people and -- not going to be hurting nearly as much as the senior citizen. namely obama's qe3 programs, the printing of money has reduced the senior's pension to worthlessness. he goes into the grocery store and he is looking at products that are five times or four times more expensive than the --

. >> woodruff: for the latest, we turn to reporter ed o'keefe of "the washington post."ins us from capitol hill.Ñi well, ed, what a scene you're watching over there. tell us what happens now. >> well, at this point we know that house republicans are planning to meet at about noon oned is to consider their next options. just before we came on the air tonight, there was a possible proposal unveiled by about 62 house republicans that would instead of completely defunding the new health care law just delay it until the beginning of 2015. this is now seen as the new leading conservative proposal, one that republicans can get behind. when i asked one of the lead sponsors what about the fact that the shutdown begins on tuesday and that the house and senate might not be able to get something done by then, they said, no, we still think there's plenty of time and it can be done. in reality, senate procedure can take some time. and if the house does indeed pass something this week and send it back to the senate, there aren't necessarily enough hours in the day to ensure that someth

. >> joining me now congressional reporter for a little bit coed o'keefe. >> the "washington post". >> oh, yeah. you know what, that's right. wait. let me have another sip of my coffee. okay. moving on. all right, ed. we have all been watching this play out. tell us what happens this weekend. is the government going to shut down? >> it is looking increasingly likely. the house will meet at noon today on capitol hill to discuss their steps. there's a leading conservative proposal that would amend the bill, just delaying obama care by one year and continuing government operations. now it's got the support of at least 62 republicans. they know full well that a democratic controlled senate has no interest in passing that. but they say this is what they should do. they can pass it. get it back to the senate and leave it in their laps as the deadline approaches. >> okay. two major deadlines coming up. if it doesn't get passed, the government shuts down tuesday. if they do not vote to increase the debt ceiling, the government will default on some of its legal obligations as early as october

out to patrick o'keefe, director of economic research at con resnik.sper number for the jobs number has gone up quite significantly. what is the risk of markets selling off if the number turns out to be too strong, which would in turn mean that the fed will have to raise the size of the initial tapering. >> i'm looking at the way s&p 500 options are pricing this nonforeign payroll announcement. and they look like they're yawning into this announcement. the s&p options are predicting about an 11-point move. call it three-quarters of a percent. so i don't think we'll get the clarity out of this number that a lot of people are expecting. i also think that we have priced out syria at this point. apparently firing tomahawk missiles at 14 or 15 targets isn't going to be something driving the markets. i think today is setting up to be a much bigger yawner than a lot of people maybe are expecting. and the number is going to come in, you know, somewhere near that whisper number, somewhere in line. if we get a huge number, i think the markets will probably rally

has used chemical weapons that has not yet ratified that convention israel earlier i spoke to ken o'keefe prominent antiwar activist political analyst and former u.s. marine i first asked him why there's been no pressure at all on israel to ratify this treaty. israel and enjoys the favor of the court systems the mainstream media the governments of the world primarily the western governments and ultimately this is how they can get away with bloody murder because it's beyond hypocrisy now isn't it and if any nation should be involved in disarming it it isn't even israel number one it should be the united states nobody is using weapons of mass destruction more than the united states and yet it's involved in disarming another nation this is for me beyond hypocrisy what we're seeing this diplomatic push regarding syria right now of course has the world beaters kind of forcing it but we've seen an attempt at diplomacy before in iraq and back in two thousand and three saddam was actually complying with u.n. weapons inspectors before bush pushed him out a halt to the diplomatic process and before

on the heels of andrea, ed o'keefe approximate. and elise. good morning to both of you. ed, give me your opinion on what this means, this setback that andrea mitchell is reporting, france is backing off saying we're going to wait for the u.n. report to decide whether or not we are standing shoulder to shoulder with the u.s.? >> it's bad enough that the british couldn't get a parliamentary resolution passed. it's now even worse than france, who was really the only one willing to put up military support, is now waivering. that will only make lawmakers much more nervous. she mentioned the whip count. we count at the post 224 members of the house, either completely no or leaning no at this point. you're only going to need 217 votes to defeat a resolution because there's two vacancies in the house. 224 is the perilous number. you have 52, 56, depends on how you count it, still undecided. once lawmakers get back to town on monday and head into the closed door classified briefings away from the cameras, away from their constituents, away from the polls, and they start looking a

goldy taylor, congressional report ed o'keefe and welcome to you.esident obama is advocating his responsibilities commander in chief and undermining the authority of future presidents. the president does not need congress to authorize a strike on syria. tough words there advocating his responsibility. do you sign any degree of fairness to them? >> they are tough words but words that don't align with our recent history as a nation. we had presidents bush and clinton take these surgical strikes in countries that did not pose a direct threat to us. we did it in libya and afghanistan and yemen. we've done it across the middle east. the problem is our history with the region. and our issue today is how the american public really feels about this. we are fighting wars differently. they're not traditional wars. we need an act of congress to wage war. they are surgical strikes on countries that don't necessarily pose an immediate threat to us and the president has the ability to do that on his own. this president has chosen to do it with the constitutional

. >> joining me now, congressional reporter for "the washington post," ed o'keefe, and contributing editorlift. eleanor, i'll begin with you. is the gop hoping to delay the affordable health care law so they can maybe get rid of it next year? >> delaying it would actually be a death blow for the plan. there are millions of people waiting for this to kick into action. you have the health exchanges in place. delaying it would not do the plan any good. the republicans certainly know that. it's not going to happen as long as this president has a veto pen and the democrats are in control in the senate. >> ed, big picture here, are we ever going to get out of this cycle of government by crisis? >> oh, alex. it's a good question. >> you know, come on. >> i think that's the kind of thing that gets resolved by elections, frankly. i don't know what it will take to break the back of this. frankly, you know, we talk about how long a shutdown might run. it's clear that we're going into a shutdown. it's less clear how we come out of it. how long will it take? who will blink first? who will finally compe

this is from ed o'keefe, who talked about outside interest groups involved in this effort. photograph of john boehner walking into his office in what was a rare weekend session. revel in the fight. at a big influence from heritage usa, these outside groups -- pointing out big influence from heritage usa, these outside groups. the kind of action they support. thetional coordinator for tea party patriots a plotting republicans for their courage and refusal to be cowed by the send and president. -- senate and president. a caller on the line from texas. senator joseph mccarthy went on a witchhunt back in the 1950's. ted cruz and the tea party on a witchhunt against obama. known as the to be ones who fiddled while a whole country burned. outrageous that they can't separate their fight against obamacare from this government funding matter. it's ridiculous. they have no concept of what governing means when they are so rigid and so determined over and over again to try to repeal a law that was passed regardless of how it was passed. it is the law of the land. the preparations have

the department has evolve and matured and i'm reminded of sean o'keefe's phone call to me after he was the announced as the president's next nominee to be secretary of the department of homeland security, he said, a couple of decades ago there was a smallering a gation of responsibility that created nasa. decades latering i still see the vestiges of culture in silos in this entity and organization. so one, i don't think we should be surprised we haven't made as much progress as we all think we need. we're not as efficient as we need to be. we're not as risk managed and risk based as we need to be. i don't think nick is wrong with the management structure, i think there needs to be efforts to oversee the oversight of that structure to hold both the congress and the department far more accountable for the outcomes we want. at the end of the day, enge you've touched on some very important issues and i'm proud to have spent time with these panelists. it is about information shearing, resiliency, it's a about a risk-managed approach. i would hope you can resolve these issues. i realize that

i don't have the story up on the screen for you but a report from ed o'keefe from the "washington post is telling how military veterans of iraq and fan began in the congress plan to vote -- afghanistan. i will read this for you. so far only veteran two members, tom cotton, republican of arkansas, and adam kissinger, republican from illinois who sits on foreign affairs committee. ed writes, those opposed to the military action, this is in house, benvilo from michigan. ron de santis from florida. tim griffin, joe heck. tammy duckworth of illinois. steve stivers are opposed to. leaning against military action in the house according to the washington post, representatives james broaden stein. doug collins of georgia. mike kaufman of colorado. duncan hunter of california and undecided brad winstrop and scott perry, both republicans. those are figures from the "washington post." this is the hill whip count so far in terms of the house. 32 supporting, 185 against and 125 in favor. just a moment or two here on c-span2, we'll show you some comments of senator richard durbin who spoke shortly af

one more here from ed o'keefe of "the washington post" on capitol hill, senator baldwin, tammy wald wynn, quote: there is an opportunity not to vote today while we see the news of the last 24 hours playing themselves out. we're going to continue talking your time up to the time the senate comes in or maybe even beyond that and hoping to hear from some senate republicans as well. lisa in indianapolis, just the phone numbers are on your screen, but democrats, 202-585-3885. republicans, 202-558-3886. independents and others, 202-5 202-585-3887. indianapolis on republican line, sorry about that. >> caller: hi. i was an officer with the military. i had gone to chemical school, so i truly understand the importance of getting those weapons out of syria. i think that, you know, our government is just misguided in saying our goal is just to punish them and make it so they won't employ them again. i think the whole message that they should have been saying all along is we're going to get those weapons away from you. we don't want them to fall into the hands of al-qaeda. we don't want them to be so

it was a tweet a short while ago -- ed o'keefe. the way you join that conversation is the c-span tage -- page. the senate takes its first procedural vote on the stopgap bill. wednesday will vote and likely overwhelmingly to limit the spending bill. we will get to the u.n. speeches just a it later on. back to the senate, ted cruz cruz's speech. one thing we learned from henry that it willts is be short. comments.nator reed's we will hear from the republican leader after that. >> the senseless, non-ending talk from my republican colleagues about the cr and the untoward.ng is really it involves to shutdowns -- the cr, of course, the debt ceiling is even worse, the full faith and credit of our country. the united states should pay its bills and we should pay them on time. i want to be very, very clear again. the senate will not pass any bill that the funds or delays obamacare. it will not negotiate on any means or anyway on extending the debt ceiling because that deals with paying our bills are in the full faith and credit of our count

i think the department has evolved and matured, and i'm reminded sean o'keefe phone call to me afterit was announced as being the next president's nominee to be the secretary of the department of homeland security said,, yeah, a couple decades ago we saw there was a smaller aggregation responsibility of created nasa. and he said, decades later i still see the vestiges of culture in silos in this indeed and in this organization. so i don't think we should be surprised that we have as much progress as we all think we need. were not as efficient as we need to be. we are not as risk based as we need to be. i do think anything is wrong with the management structure but i do think it needs to be efforts to oversee the oversight of that structure to hold both the congress and the department far more accountable for the outcomes we want. at the end of the day i think you've touched on some very important issues and i'm proud to spend sometime with these panels. it is about information sharing, about risk managed approach. i would hope you can resolve these issues. i realize that again, ironi