that's georgia o'keefe's." it's just going to get prettier. of o'keefe's biographers infamously described this landscape, which had so captivated the artist as garish, vulgar, and in poor taste, which if you look around, is pretty hard to comprehend. this is such the other side of the universe for somebody who lives like i do. people who live in cities for whom a backyard this big is inconceivable. the idea that there's a certain type of personality who's drawn towards open spaces like this. >> david: you know, this country, it either embraces you or within a year it spits you out. [ branches breaking ] >> anthony: we reach the end of our trail at a place called "valley of thieves," once said to be a haven for infamous cattle rustlers. of course. they call it "the rabbit." ladies, you know what i'm talking about. jesus, even in my 50s, it's -- it's still with the jokes. i've gotta find a distinguished segue into adulthood one of these days. three generations of manzanaris are here with me this evening. herman, david, and max. we'll do our best

ed o'keefe joins us now. he broke the story.d they're angry -- what are aangry about? >> these are actual delegates elected to go to cleveland and sit in the audience and make the decisions of the republican party. people like kendall unruh in colorado, people like a guy named cecil in iowa. concern that the current presumptive nominees perhaps a bit unsufficiently conservative and looking for somebody else. don't have anyone specifically in mind but believe the republican delegates should be able to vote their?zñ?ñ?ñ?ñ? coe instead of voting from the result of their state. >> tear angry on the comments on gun control, the attack on the federal judge, the sinking poll numbers. but in order to unbind the delegates it would take a majority of the rules committee, and then you have to have a majority of the -- of all of the delegates at the convention. what's the likely had of that happening? >> we'll see. we won't really know until july 14th and 15th when the convention rules committee meets at the convention center, and the entir

neil o'keefe from crm joins us, along with virginia heffernan.tten about the digitization of our lives and the consequences. so neil, just how large would , you say the problem of ad-blocking technology is, and how much of a challenge is this posting to the big media players? neil: ad-blocking is a significant challenge, but it is here to stay. it is a choice the customers are making, but i do not think it is the best choice. it is an all or nothing choice. customers need more choices and to be able to pick and choose to they do business with and who they communicate with. ad-block gives that all or nothing choice, which is not good for the customer because it it disconnects them from brands they like. it creates inefficiency in the marketplace. it really only benefits one person, the ad-blocker themselves. emily: that most people report they find ads annoying. can they get around this? neil: it is a great point. the marketplace is doing a better job today. marketers sit at an intersection of science and creativity, and they're bringing this two

i'm guessing you've never seen an andy warhol, georgia o'keefe or jackson pollock?you think this video is art, i've got an old copyof hustler and an episode of forensic files that will blow your [bleep] mind. [applause] and to add insult to injury, this garbage video isn't even original. "this scene is inspired by vincent des a derio, gotta appreciate the risk and vision." risk and vision? sure, risky because kanye's ass is probably getting sued. but vision? he just copied someone else's work. hey hbo, i've got a completely original idea for you, it's called throne of games. [laughter] trust me, it's mine. sure technically, this video could be considered art. but just because it's art doesn't mean it isn't awful kinda like your nephew's. macaroni self portrait. i don't care if you're in preschool, kid, working with rigatoni. that makes you a douche. not to mention, art can be criticized. oh, and criticize it i will. this video is gross on so many levels. it's so misogynistic. it's not new or creative to exploit women's bodies. there are tons of wax tits but where ar

ed o'keefe political reporter for "the washington post." the washington bureau chief for "time" magazine and the white house correspondent for "real clear politics." >> award-winning reporting and analysis covering history as it happens. live from our nation's capital. this is "washington week" with gwen ifill. corporate funding for "washington week" is provided by -- gwen: good evening. this week was nothing less than extraordinary. and it's possible the political world will never be the same. but is it because there is a likely woman nominee? is it because bernie sanders and elizabeth warren now have liberal leverage? is it because republicans are beginning to worry they are stuck between a rock and a hard place with the unpredictable, presumptive nominee? or it is because no matter what happens next we are in for a crazy, volatile slide at the conventions in cleveland, in philadelphia. hillary clinton and donald trump were both in washington today speaking to groups at opposite ends of the ideological spectrum. clinton at planned parenth

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donald trump from becoming the gop nominee, the reporting of ed o'keefe, his work available online. acute for being with us. -- thank you for being with us. >> with clinical primary season over, c-span's road to the white house takes you to the summer's political conventions. watch the republican national convention starting july 18 with live coverage from cleveland. conventioninto the no matter what happens and i think we're going to go in so strong. >> and watch the democratic national convention starting july 25 with live coverage from philadelphia. >> lets go forward and when the nomination and in july, we're going to fight. fight for social, economic, racial, environmental justice to philadelphia. >> every minute of the republican and democratic parties national convention on c-span, c-span radio, and c-span.org. at the state department briefing, spokesman john kirby to questions on internal metal -- memo signed by employees which calls for a more aggressive stance on syria. before that, an update on narcotic related violence in central america from assistant secretary of state

. >> in 2012, michael o'keefe published a two-volume bibliography on george armstrong custer. there were 10,000 items. the annotated them all. 3000 of them were books. i think the logical firstt >> i hate mybegin with is tj,, why custer? >> i hate myself. no. [laughter]readers and first of all i have to say thank you for coming here. i really do appreciate it. i love the chance to talk to readers and potential readers even more. also, to have a conversation with paul andrew hutton who is not just the great historian but a great writer and he has a book coming out this spring called the apache wars which, i had a chance to read it and it's phenomenal. so to ha so watch for that please. so to have this conversation with not only a historian but a good writer is terrific. i could go on and give a whole spiel about custer and tell you why my book is justified but the subtitle asked lanes my whole approach. sometimes you go into a subject because it hasn't been written about enough before or you feel like people have gotten the wrong and as i say, there is a lot of great writing as

"new york times" reporter, jeremy peters, and "washington post" reporter, ed o'keefe.nt, because you suggest that it should be taken seriously? >> the reason it should be taken seriously, mika, after weeks of hearing from party leaders, pundits, former candidates, people who work for former candidates saying, we've got to do something, the only people who can actually do something are now doing something. and based on what they said last night, they now have hundreds of convention delegates and alternates onboard with this idea that you would get something passed in the rules committee of the convention, which will meet the week before things start in cleveland, to allow them to basically vote their conscience, vote however they want, and buck the results of their state caucus or primary if that's what they want to do. they insist repeatedly, and so far i have found no evidence that they're working on behalf of nany of the other guys who ran. they say, simply, they're concerned about donald trump. you know, for all the reasons you guys have been discussing this morning

here now democratic strategist and "washington post" political reporter ed o'keefe and former political director for president george w. bush. >> that bite we played at the top, ed, was your most memorable moment. why did you pick that? >> because i don't think we realized in the moment how important that was. i was following jeb bush most of last summer and it took him three weeks to respond to it because at that point -- >> which by the way tells you everything you need to know about the bush campaign. >> but it was also because at that point he had insulted his mexican-important wife and mostly that that he was responding to and went back. >> again, nobody picked up on it at that point, and i was in vegas last week talking to reporters -- talking not to reporters but to voters. >> french-canadian slip. that's what the media does, just talked to each other. a- a-ha, we knew it. >> they were younger hispanic voters and he shade trump has made valid points over the economy and change in washington and he's racist and i'll never vote for him because of what he said. >> that's the thing t

and patrick o'keefe.e loss is felt by their families and colleagues and also by jose gallegos, who developed a lasting friendship with the men who saved his life. >> i don't have any words to express how i feel about these guys. they live in my heart. i carry them in a very special part of my heart. >> although he now lives in his native colombia, gallegos has come back to the building where he once feared his life would end. >> it was very hot. there was a lot of smoke coming out of all the windows. >> and we have a surprise waiting for him. on the corner of 7th avenue and 48th street. >> oh, man. >> hi. >> how are you? >> it's kevin shay, now retired and living in montana. shay and gallegos haven't seen each other for many years. >> what a great surprise. >> yeah. >> wow, man. i'm so happy to see you. >> yes. it's a great surprise. >> for these two men, the experience on the 12th floor of this building has created a bond that will never fade away. >> doesn't it feel much better once you know you're not

jim o'keefe. nice to meet you. steve: steve. allowing us to come in and talk to you today. getting this meeting was a great opportunity for us. while we're very niche today, the goal is really to change the way we manufacture, and so i want to see if there's a way to do some business. steve: great. thank you, marcus. i have designed four chairs, one for every region of the country. i'll start with the one that we shipped you. this is our great lakes chair. man: what's the retail on that? -steve: $495. -man: okay. lemonis: i had him make these four chairs with four very specific regional feels. the line that this will all be branded under will be the american dream. man: are you guys gonna carry inventory, or what type of lead times would you expect? steve: this is our quick-ship program, so we are going to stock and be able to ship in a 24-hour period. lemonis: can we look at the chairs? have you seen them? let's look at them. man: okay. steven: it's a clean, modern look, available with a cushion or with just the wood. man: mm-h

the reporting of ed o'keefe, who is joining us from "the washington post" newsroom.with news and policy issues that impact you. coming up saturday morning, philadelphia enquirer city hall reporter tri sha nadolny talks about tax on sugar sweetened and diet beverages. the first such tax imposed in a major u.s. city. financial times surks economics editor sam fleming will discuss what came out of this week's federal reserve meeting and the overall outlook for the u.s. economy, including the potential impact of the brexit referendum. then joshua horowitz, executive director of the coalition to stop gun violence will talk about his group's position on new gun control measures in the wake of the orlando nightclub attack. plus a look at u.s. efforts to combat homegrown terrorism and extremism with seamus hughes, deputy director of george washington university center for cyber and homeland security extremism program. be sure to watch beginning live at 7:00 a.m. eastern saturday morning. join the discussion. >>> on american history tv on c-span3, this saturday starting at 1:

to stop donald trump from becoming the gop nominee, the reporting of ed o'keefe, his work available online. thank you for being with us. >> ity time, steve, take care. >> the political primary season over, c-span takes you to the political conventions with live coverage from cleveland. >> we'll be going into the convention no matter what happens and i think we're going to go in so strong. >> watch the democratic national convention starting july 25 with live coverage from philadelphia. >> let's go forward. let's win the nomination and in july let's return as a unified party. our fight we take for social, economic, racial and environmental justice to philadelphia. >> every minute that the republican and democratic parties national convention on c-span, c-span radio and c-span.org. >> at the state department's briefing john kirby took questions on a memo signed by 51 employees which calls for a more aggressive stance on kiria. before that a report on violence from the assistant secretary of state. this is just over an hour. i'm going to welcome william brownfield. he oversees a bureau that c

think he has the longest title of anyone i've introduced and a political reporter here at cnn and ed o'keefel. you have been digging in on this and trying to figure out what's going on. what are the ideas floated right now is freeing convention delegates who are bound to trump and then so you want to unbound them. how would that work? >> well, there are actually several ideas that are put forth, including one school of thought that says they're not bound at all. this is not exactly one that's picking up a ton of steam and those that say you can already use the rnc rules against the rnc rules. ultimately, what it looks like, though, this is going to come down to a majority of delegates on the convention floor. the rules committee will be tasked with putting into place the rules for this convention. right now, the 2012 rules are operating but the first order of business will be figuring out what to do in 2016. then what that committee puts forward, has to be ratified. we are talking about magic 1,237 number again and probably takes that many delegates to do anything to unbind the bindings alre

ed o'keefe, his work available online, thank you for being with us. ed: any time, steve. >> on newsmakers, we talk more about donald trump and his relationship with the republican party. include, steve blondin, who campaigned for ted cruz, and laats.nder plots -- pa watch the interview tomorrow at its about p.m. eastern on c-span. -- 6:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. is not the new 30, and 60 is not the new 40, and 50 is the new 50, it looks good and it is ok and we ought to own our age and not talk about being over 50 as being in decline. >> said tonight, joanne jenkins talks about the health and financial challenges older americans face and what the aarp is doing to assist them. she is also the author of the aging."isrupt >> the fastest-growing population is those who are over 65 years old. and so, not only are there more people in the system mother they are living longer. so we have to be able to look at these programs and make meaningful adjustment that are going to allow people to live with dignity at a much longer period of time. >> sunday night on c

ed o'keefe in the pages of the washington post wrote about these efforts by dozens of delegates planningo go to the convention to stop donald trump from getting the nomination. theseite up saying republican convention delegates are hatching a new plan to block donald trump. the move comes from -- amidst declining poll numbers from and growing concern over republicans that he is squandering his chance to beat hillary clinton. his recent controversies including his support for changing the nation's gun law have raised fears among most republicans that trump is not really a conservative and is too reckless to run a successful rates. a group of anti-trump delegates are convinced enough like-minded republicans will band together in the next month to change the party rules and allowed votes -- delegates to vote for whoever they like at the convention won inless of who primaries are elect -- or caucuses. -- cruz those rules for the gop convention take place shortly inore the convention process cleveland. we want to get your thoughts. by certain select delegates at the convention to stop donald

host: as you know, the story by ed o'keefe in the washington post, being called the dump trump movement as some delegates try to figure out a way to keep him -- to prevent him from becoming the republican nominee. if that were to happen, your reaction? the rnc says this will not happen. hypothetically, what do you think. ? caller: i would be so angry. i think new image is one of the greatest politicians that ever was born in this country. i would be so outraged, as i am that now, other direction this country is headed because of the republican party in some , we've not just saying got to come up with a new solution and cowing down to everybody that calls us a racist is totally wrong. i'm angry about that. host: john, thank you for the call. guest: i do not know what is in mr. trump's hard. heart. when you get into that type of rhetoric, which i think it is hyperbolic more than anything, yet be careful about calling someone a racist. as it pertains to the perceptions of mr. trump, hispanics and african-americans and younger millennials, it is the perception that maybe he is not a racist