[applause] >> okay o. anna there, and then we'll get the other question in the middle there. go ahead. >> why aren't there more conservative playwrights, and is there anything that can be done about that, or is that essential -- [applause] is that just inherent to the human condition and the nature of playwrighting? >> well, here's the thing. you can't breed playwrights. you really can't. i knew joe, knew him very, very well, great, wonderful guy and the biggest con man who ever lived. he kept shaking down the state, the government, rich people, and he did a hamlet wees key mows, and, you know, he did the women with an all-female cast. [laughter] held just do anything god damn thing, he didn't care. that's not the place for politics. and unfortunately, the contemporary theater comes out of the university system. you know? william h. macy and me and joe mountain ya and william peterson and dennis franz, we were all kids in chicago, 22 years old, and we had our own theater company. we didn't know any better. we made it up as we went along. but kids nowadays, i think we're doing