we spoke the south african global and n g c o. kelvin kim, who thinks europe shouldn't impose it, solutions on africa with desperately needs to develop and she says the strength to think for themselves and do what's in their own interest for, for too long. we've been prepared to accept solutions coming from europe. that might almost not work in europe often they don't even take to work well day. and they come here on the assumption that al conditions was similar with the same as this. and then not, not only are the sizes of the countries different day for the long power lines in the case, electricity, long delivery lines. it's dry here. we have nowhere near the rain that they've got this numbers of things that are different. so we've got to start resisting this attitude of they know what's good for them, therefore it must automatically be good for us. and therefore we must do as we told in africa, we produce a little carbon dioxide. we should not be bullied into being major players in reducing carbon dioxide. we make a tiny difference in comparison. some of the much bigger place in the worl