they said we love you, o.b. researchers you're great, you're insufficient and they were right. there's five centers across the country and university of pennsylvania is one of them but they made a mandate, didn't say we're going to give you money to do pre-term birth research, you have to find people from other fields, nothing to do with obstetrics and bring them in and make them interested and do research with you. be innovator and discovery. that's what we're doing. >> how has that been? >> it's been one of the most amazing experiences as a researcher in 20 years. >> on our team, i have an immune oelgs and three microbiologists and orthopedic guy and engineers and it's been eye opening to have their insight into some of the reproductive tissues and what they know from their expertise and begin to apply that to pre-term birth. >> this has never been done before, pulling in all of these disciplines, right? >> it's been done but on a very small level, on a level where they were brought into what our assumptions were, instead of saying forget assumptions. we're talking about the