and o.j. know how things played. >> reporter: and that played out in the courtroom was the racial tension outside the courtroom. >> reporter: his famous quote was i'm not black. i'm o.j. he achieved a colorlessness, and yet, when he was charged with murder, he used his racial identity as his defense. >> that's sort of one of the great ironies of the story. >> we were playing the evidence card. we were playing the credibility card where the credibility of the central witness was at issue. >> reporter: when audiotape surfaced of the police officer who found the bloody glove ranting racial slurs -- it was seen as a touchdown for the defense. >> reporter: who says things like that? it was so foul. it was so despicable that it was nauseating to listen to. >> it was like mana from heaven. it was, indeed, a gift. >> when you heard the tapes did you think this is a get out of jail free card? >> it was a block buster. we knew that some of the things that he was talking about would resonate with this ju

they discuss a new documentary on the o.j. simpson trial, o.j. made in america. >> it is unfair since i never met o.j. but i came to, and you know this, charlie, like o.j. reputationally had a reputation of not being a good actor. in hollywood. there is a reason why his career dried up. after spending two years thinking about o.j., watching footage of o.j., putting this whole thing together, i've come to the conclusion i think o.j. simpson is the greatest actor in american history. cumentary when we continue. >> funding for charlie rose is provided by the following: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. good evening. i'm al hunt filling in for charlie rose who's on assignment. we begin tonight with politics. donald trump and hisry-- hillary clinton barring some unfore seeable act will face off in the presidential general election. clinton sewed up the nomination this week and last night won a big vi

and yet i'm like there's more o.j.seductive and charming, that o.j. >> seth: he is incredibly seductive and charming. that is a part i forgot as well. and even after the trial, you see him doing interviews and just winning people over that are so predisposed not to like him. it is really something to see. i know you have done other 30 for 30 stuff. you're a fantastic documentary film maker. is it safe to say your next subject will not be o.j. related? >> i mean it's done so well for me so far. i mean i assume he might get out of jail next year. >> seth: and you'll be waiting for it. >> part six. >> seth: part six. [ laughter ] thank you so much. and congratulations again. ezra edelman, everybody! parts three, four and five of "o.j.: made in america" air this friday and saturday on espn. the documentarty is available on the watch espn app. we'll be right back with stand-up from fortune feimster [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ what if we woke up one day and everything just stopped going wrong? no more accidents. no more fire

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i just want to be o.j.." funny how-- >> now by the way, he just wants to be black and not o.j. now being black is a lot better. >> larry: exactly. but i think that resonated with people during the trial. the rodney king situation had just happened very recently. >> oh, yeah. well, that's the big factor why i think so many people in the black community at the time were, you know watching it and cheering when he got off because it just felt like, well, the system was broken one time, and now maybe it's broken again but at least this time it broke in our favor. >> larry: all the trials-- >> i don't think anyone really thought he was innocent. maybe a few people in the deep web,un what i mean? but i do think there's a component of it. it was a little bit of a payback. there were huge riots after rodney king. >> you know what's going on right now nobrooklyn, not just in brook brooklyn? >> people are making pickles? >> what's going on now is-- >> that is one thing happening in brooklyn right now! >> larry: that is

us, o.j. none of the people that we associated with looked at him as a black man. >> a civil rights leader in los angeles has said if you're going in a big city, los angeles is the best place to be. man, where you going to run dto ♪ >> really, o.j. simpson as civil rights victim? it was disgusting, appalling. >> murderer! he goinger man, where to run to where he going to run to ♪ tragedy. charlie: part one of the documentary series premieres on abc saturday, june 11. the remaining parts will air on espn beginning june 14. joining me is the director, ezra edelman, former prosecutor marcia clark, and civil rights attorney carl douglas, who served on simpson's defense team. i am pleased to have all of them here at this table. welcome and welcome and welcome. why does this man and this case resonate? is it because it is a story of, what? ezra: it is a story of everything, race, masculinity, class, gender, celebrity, the criminal justice system. it is a story about america. charlie: how did you dec

he looks down at o.j.e said brother simpson, when that verdict came in in 1995 and we all erupted in cheers. we weren't cheering for you. we were cheering for johnnie. and the entire surge explode -- church sbloded. >> that's what many don't understand. >> there were a lot of people who exploded and never knew who johnny cochran was. >> what they knew were african-american lawyers and they learned that competence comes in all colors, charlie. i remember attending a convention of african-american lawyers at the national bar association after this particular trial. and we were received there like rock stars. i remember barry shek was there, lee bailey was there. and in a little small towns across the nation because the trial was on cnn every day, people became to represent the intelligence of an african-american professional. and that i think as much as anything was why folks qur cheering not for o.j. per se. >> this remarkable achievement in terms of putting this how many hours? seven? >> almost eight. >> i

the life and career of o.j. and complex social and racial backdrop for his landmark murder trial. the first episode is tomorrow at 9:00 p.m. eastern on abc and subsequent abscisic -- episodes on espn next week. i sat down in gotham city with the director of that series and asked what it was like to make a film this political for the total sports network. is he and said to make a long form doc on oj simpson, correct? aezra: correct. mark: you were not thrilled originally to what turned you around? canvas atas a larger first, five hours. what i was reluctant to do was guilt or about his innocence or a ridge or desk regurgitation of the trial. or a regurgitation of the trial. but then i realized i could do a story about l.a., about race in angeles,nd in los about who o.j. was from a racial and identity standpoint, things i am interested in and i feel i have been overlooked. ink: what are the threads it? race will obviously be a huge threat because of how the trial unfolded. thatwas the other thread you do not think

>> she wanted him to take the paternity test, and o.j.. >> the new dropping today, straight from o.j.'s prison security guard in a new kardashian documentary. >> i asked o.j. if he was khloe's dad, and he looked at me and he said, robert kardashian is my best friend, i would never do that to him. >> the kardashians forced to deal with the paternity drama publicly on their hit e! show. >> why wouldn't we just do a dna test once and for all? >> kris jenner's always maintained robert kardashian is khl khloe's real dad. he famously stood by his best friend during his murder trial, not just as his attorney, but many speculate someone who helped hide evidence. >> that bag was bulging with simpson's stuff. >> kardashian, the man who saved o.j. airs tonight. >>> kim and kanye west under siege at l.a.x. kim showing off her new slimmed down body after baby, headed to paris. once the couple touched down, they arrived in style for a to eat. >>> gordon ramsey's new heartbreak. the 49-year-old tough tv chef just revealing his 41-year-old wife tana suff

the trial of o.j.wife nicole brown simpson and her friend ron goldman was billed as the trial of the century, but it and the not guilty verdict exposed a deep racial divide in this country. earlier this year many in the country were also transfixed by the fx miniseries "the people versus o.j. simpson" which was cable's most-watched new show of 2016. now if you're thinking to yourself that after the popularity of that series there was no way people would have a desire to watch any more about o.j. this year, then you haven't seen the amazing new documentary by director ezra edelman. >> murderer! where he gonna run to >> it's easy to celebrate. it's easy to be fun when everybody's winning. you've got a tragedy in your life, write an interesting autobiography. >> "o.j. simpson: made in america" is a five-part documentary series that looks at one of the most extraordinary falls from grace in modern history. chris hayes sat down with ezra edelman and began by asking what it was like to devoting nearly eight

what does o.j. simpson mean? >> i was taken by o.j.s a kid growing up as an athlete and celebrity. it's hard when you spend this much time examinie inine ining d the things he's even on record having done and not coming away with sort of a general feeling of disgust. that made it very difficult. by the way, i also had a real desire to be fair to him in this story as well. it's hard to ignore all the things that took place. >> it's interesting in the context of our earlier conversation, muhammad ali, one of the most famous people on the planet and black is beautiful, black pride, o.j. simpson is also one of the most famous athlete who is tried to make himself into raceless figure and yet race was the dominant motif of the trial. >> race is still the dominant factor in the life of american politics and american cull chtu. wrooer never going to have an honest conversation. >> we're never going to move past it.wrooer never going to h honest conversation. >> we're never going to move past it.ewrooer never going to honest conversation. >> we

the prosecution team was deeply divided over whether to make o.j. on those bloody gloves. >> i didn't want to do it. >> reporter: the rest is history. >> if it doesn't fit, you must acquit. >> reporter: and the documentary gives another explanation about why they may not have fit. one that even surprised former d.a., gil garcetti, breaking 21 years of silence. >> it was from this film that i learned o.j. had been taking medication for the arthritis in his hands, and he was told if you stop taking the medication, your hands will swell and your joints will stiffen. i just shook my head, another thing the defense was able to do. >> reporter: the documentary suggests the key to o.j.'s freedom had more to do with exploiting racial tensions outside of the courtroom than in it. >>> when we come back, a high honor overseas for rod stewart at this hour. the big news coming in. >>> and more on the high-speed, wrong-way chase in the middle of the heartland. we'll be right back. e got that ! you know...diarrhea? abdominal pain? but we said we'd be there... woap

that's salesmanship -- >> o.j.s with everybody. >> where was arnold palmer in the courtroom? never showed up as a character witness, never talked to them -- >> you're asking about arnold palmer, you could ask about 100, 200 people o.j. was chummy with over the years, in the broadcast booth, on commercial sets. yeah, there are plenty of people in theory would have been there to testify for him. having said that, i think you find a lot of people like arnold palmer, they weren't exactly going to show up in the middle of the trial of the century to testify for o.j. >> i thought he was funny in "naked gun 2 1/2." "naked gun 33 1/3." i thofs there was something funny going on. you see this in retrospect, that something was bugging this guy, he wasn't quite there. thank you, congratulations. people are talking about this at "citizen kane" levels, that's something. >> thanks, chris, appreciate it. >> watch episodes 4 and 5 tonight and tomorrow on espn. "hardball" back after this. all d who could use a few more minutes of s

simpson entitled "o.j.: made in america."n-depth picture of this country deals with race and justice. as o.j.'s quick rise to fame allowed him to transcend cultural boundaries. even as the fight for civil rights was well underway. the ultimate irony of the story, as we all know, as depicted in the film, while simpson wanted little to do with the african-american community during his rise, his eventual acquittal in 1995 hinged on his racial identity. here's a clip that shows how simpson's defense team built sympathy for him in a scene that takes place just before the jury was shown the interior of simpson's mansion. let's take a look. >> when you would walk up the grand staircase, there was a large wall with pictures of the family, pictures of friends, pictures of o.j.'s career. the problem was, this overwhelming majority of pictures were of caucasian friends and colleagues of his. we had an african-american jury and we wanted to make sure that the home setting would reflect the themes that we wanted to reflect. >> we took all

the documentary suggests the key to o.j.'eedom had more to do with exploiting racial tensions outside of the courtroom than the drama in in it. david. >> juju, thanks, great to have you with us. the first part of the five-part series airs saturday night here on abc. >>> when we come back, the high speed chase in the heart land reaching speeds of more than 100 american. >>> and the big honor for rod stewart overseas. we listen to one of our favorites. honor for rod stewart over seas. don't think i'll make it. stomach again...send! if you're living with frequent, unpredictable diarrhea and abdominal pain, you may have irritable bowel syndrome with diarrhea or ibs-d - a condition that can be really frustrating. talk to your doctor about viberzi. a different way to treat ibs-d. viberzi is a prescription medication you take every day that helps proactively manage both diarrhea and abdominal pain at the same time. so you stay ahead of your symptoms. viberzi can cause new or worsening abdominal pain. do not take viberzi if you have

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o.j.urprising tactic his dream team used on the jurors deciding his murder case. so many talking about this documentary which hairs right here on abc tonight. >>> a huge, huge twist for the popular and controversial media company gawker, now filing for bankruptcy protection. >> the move is coming three months after pro wrestler hulk hogan won a $140 million verdict against the company for publishing a tape of him having sex, and abc's linzie janis has more on these new developments. >> reporter: overnight, hulk hogan's crushing legal victory over gawker media forcing the company to file for bankruptcy. just three months ago a florida jury awarding hogan, whose real name is terry bollea, $140 million punishing gawker for invading the former pro wrestler's privacy by publishing a tape of him having sex. failing to pay up gawker media asseting include its websites gawker.com, gizmodo and jezebel will now be auctioned off. the company saying the sale and filing are intended to safeguard the jo

o.j. trial still matters today. but first, it was a rare night and morning in congressional history. democrats staged an all-night sit in, demanding a vote to ban anyone on the no fly list from buying a gun. lisa desjardins begins our coverage. >> reporter: house democrats emerged from the capitol and gave up their 26-hour sit in. they vowed to keep fighting for gun control measures, after the july 4 break. >> when we come back here on july 5, we're going to continue to push, to pull, to stand up, and if necessary, to sit down, or sit in. >> reporter: the scene outside was nearly as raucous as the one that played out yesterday and overnight. as republicans recessed, triggering an automatic shut down of the official house cameras, democrats took to social media to broadcast the back-and-forth on the floor. >> no bill! no vote! no bill! no vote! >> reporter: 10:00 p.m: house speaker paul ryan tried to regain control over democrats' chanting. >> the house will be in order... >> reporter: but

o.j.the revealing new documentary on espn shedding new light on one of the most notorious murder trials in american history. you're watching "world news now." >> announcer: "world news now" ♪ >>> more than 20 years later, we're still learning new details about o.j. simpson and his murder trial. >> a new documentary debuts tomorrow night here on abc offering new and revealing interviews with people close to simpson. abc's aim you row back has the story. >> more than 20 years after the verdict -- >> not guilty of the crime of murder. >> reporter: america's interest in simp on has been this spring millions watched the mini series "the people versus o.j. simpson." if i don't talk it looks like i have something to hide. there's a brands new documentary from espn? o.j. made in america," a five-part series telling what may be the definitive story from the lawyers, jurors all part of it. >> he's plucked out of the black community. out of the black consciousness and he submerged in an all white uni

o.j." >> now there is a brand new documentary from espn and o.j." a new five part series telling what could be the ultimate story from the jury and friends all involved and the lawyers. the defender of o.j. explains the moment to megyn kelly. all the glove would not fit. >> the former los angeles district ton who served during the murder trial said he is break his silence for the film adding that he actually learned something new from the documentary. >> what we did not know, o.j. was taking arrest right medication for his hands and he was told if you stop taking this medicine your hands will swell. the case and the fiery history of race relations and the l.a.p.d. but it will not answer this question: did o.j. do it in theology ago case is decades old and these two different t series are breathing new life into the story. >> you want to check it out o.j. made in america premieres tomorrow at 9:00 right here. a final four parts are on espn starting on tuesday. >> now a check of the weather looking forward to the weekend. drew? >> yes, we will start

then when you parse who o.j.e choices he made, the advantages he had as an athlete and celebrity, where he lived, there was an irony to that defense being connected to this man. then you think, oh, sure, you grew up in a time, and i did in high school, when rodney king happened and it looks like payback for rodney king. when people wanted to reduce the jurors decisions to that. well, yes, rodney king was beaten in 1991 and the riots happened in 1992. but there was a history that consistently went back with these incidents 30 or 40 years, hallmark incidents that people in los angeles would continue to bring up to me that i realized it was such a deeper reservoir of frustration and tension that needed to be explored. that was drawn upon by the defense, more so than just look what happened to years ago. it was look what happened 40 years ago. john: there was the incredible footage of oj's best friend, most staunch loyal defender, at nicole simpson's memorial service giving a tearful farewell to her. and then after t

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he said i knew those gloves belonged to o.j. o.j.'s blood was in the gloves.lood was in the gloves. ron's blood was in the gloves. and so he said he thought it was one of the best courtroom moments in history. so, i think he still sort of goes back and forth about this trial, and it just goes to show you how important it still is in his mind every day. he's going back and forth and vacillating. >> but should he shoulder much of the blame here? >> i don't think so. i don't think so. i think it was a lot more about jury selection and about really race relations during those times. remember, those were the times of the rodney king verdicts. >> yes. and you have to remember, if you put yourself back in that time in l.a., you're absolutely right about that. so, jeffrey, what do you think were the keys to the verdict? >> i think the defense succeeded in changing the subject fundamentally to -- from whether o.j. simpson killed these two people, which he did, and from that to whether the lapd deserved to be vindicated for their performance over many, many years. the d

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we loved o.j. remember the morning of the murders, after the murders when we all thought, oh, poor o.j., somebody killed his wife. who knew. it was just a crazy week, and a crazy three years. >> i think what's also helping is that the reviews have been so positive for some of these. >> oh, yes. >> the espn getting rave reviews. nothing short of a towering achievement says the "washington post." >> very well done. >> espn put it in theaters so it could qualify for oscars. i think perhaps it takes 22 years to get it right. between the fx mini series and this documentary. they are really, really well done. >> yeah. good point. >> thanks, jane. >> jane, thank you very much. see you later. that does it. mike, have a good weekend. happy father's day. >> you, too. thank you very much. >> big week. >> yellen testimony. >> "closing bell." >>> "fast money" starts right now. >>> "fast money" for a friday starts right now. i'm melissa lee. your traders on the desk are tim, steve, brian and guy. tonight on fast

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how important was that process for you and o.j.e case making an impression on your life? >> not as much as you might think. i was in college. probably paid attention to the less because i had other stuff to do. i remember watching the chase and i remember watching the verdict. i don't remember being emotionally involved. that in fact is what i was upset about. people came to my house and that was during the summer stars at my parents house in washington d.c. and prince came over to watch steve -- watch the game and return on tv and there's oj. kennedy: one of the most fascinating things for seniors for about o.j. simpson and this is one thing i can't shake him his desire to be famous. it wasn't to be the greatest player, wasn't to be a wealthy person. what did that need for fame due to his overall motivation? >> i can't speak for o.j. simpson i don't know the man. maybe i know more than you but having said that he was turned by that ambition from a very young age and considering where you came from. kennedy: doesn't explain a lot?

it's o.j. simpson." o.j. simpson? i was never into sports. welcome. this was such a fantastic documentary series. >> it was. >> seth: it's five episodes, 90 minutes each. and you learn so many things. and one of the things i was shocked to learn is that you did not understand the celebrity of o.j. simpson when you first heard about the case. >> well, i knew he was in "naked gun." >> seth: yeah. >> and i remember the hertz commercial. >> seth: uh-huh. >> and that was about it. >> seth: i will say -- i knew he was a football player, but i wasn't old enough to have watched him play. so i also knew him as the "naked gun" guy. which was tragic enough -- [ light laughter ] >> yeah. >> seth: -- for the record, that the "naked gun" guy was having all these things happen. you know, i have to -- one of the things that i feel like this documentary does a great job with is it gives a lot of context to what was happening in los angeles at the time, the rodney king verdict. the very uneasy relationship with the police and the black community in los angeles

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talk about o.j. he came along in terms of his relationship with the black community. and it's interesting to hear your perspective on that. >> o.j. came from the projects in ventura hill, in a black neighborhood. and i think his life was transformed when he went to usc, where gill went to school, as well. it was a white enclave. this bubble, next black los angeles. and right there is where he became inculturated. and his desire of fame since he was a kid, that thrust him into the arms of white america. >> gill, you mentioned that one of the reasons you wanted to be involved in this particular documentary is because it does set the case in the context of l.a. >> not just about l.a. an entire nation in terms of the race relations. as district attorney, my job was to consist the prosecutors. do we have enough evidence to prove the defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? it was much deeper. i don't know if anyone told you about the story about me reaching out to president carter. part of my job was t

did o.j. do it?ay from the greater message of the film which is honestly trying to hear from all sides and to understand why all this stuff happened. both the crime itself potentially but also sort of why everyone lost their minds in the case in 1994/'95 and why the verdict was what it was. >> it premieres this saturday on abc and then continues tuesday night on espn and, george, i know you have even more. >> very special guest here. the former los angeles district gil garcetti is here with us. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> you have not been speaking out on the case for years. for two decades. i know it took a lot of convincing for you to be part of this documentary. you said no twice? >> right. >> my son. ezra, the director, had contacted me and had a number of conversations with me and i continued to say no as i have for 21 years. but it was my son who said, dad, it's time for you to speak. no one knows the facts that you know and i think you can really trust ezra to do a professional job