o.j. simpson trial. and it was usually pretty self-aware when it was making its casual insults. there was an episode called the beard, in which the elaine character tried to convert a gay man. there was a season final season episode called the puerto rican day parade, a dismal episode in which kramer, the kramer character, one of jerry seinfeld's buddies, stomped on a puerto rican flag. so i think a powerful argument can be made that the seinfeld decade is not an appropriate way to characterize the nineties like iced. so is it the clueless decade? is it the clueless decade? this, of course, is a term borrowed from 1995 sleeper hit clueless. and the characterization of clueless decade suggests that america essentially went to sleep after the end of the cold with the collapse of the soviet. in 1991 that america then took a holiday history and really failed to confront or recognize the festering problems that were to blow up later in the next decade, essentially, america kicked the can down the road. the wer

o.j. simpson case. the police in los angeles lost, that case, it was an open, shut case. you wouldn't need a prosecutor reagan crime and two, to win that case. his blood is found at scene. he has a motive. it's the easy case in the world to win. and the idiot policeman, a guy named orpheus of van adder, decided the case may have been too weak because the glove had a lot of the evidence and the glove was found illegally. what happened is the officer jumped over the fence, made up phony story, said he was there to warn simpson that maybe they were going to try to kill him. they found the glove. everybody thought the glove would be suppressed. so what did they do? they man you factual a piece of evidence. what happened is o.j. simpson was wearing socks at the time and the socks were found on the foot of the bed in the search. and i actually saw the socks i didn't see anything on them. and then discovered that there on the socks, the blood of the victim in, o.j. simpson. wow. what could be a better piece of

o.j. simpson criminal case started.on that went on to the lawyers and the personalities. and he determined that the oklahoma city bombing case was going to be very different. and he made sure that the case was tried only in the courtroom. he is now in a very different place. he's now the attorney general. but he has the same attitude toward publicity. he doesn't want to call attention to things unless it is an actual court case. and i think that is -- that is unfortunate. i think as attorney general, you have a platform where he could call out the continuing danger of right-wing extremism in this country. he hasn't done it to the degree he could. the. >> look, it's a fascinating read. you went to the university of texas where the lead attorney for mcveigh donated all the documents, 635 boxes, a million documents. you found peo

o.j. simpson" made in america" went so far deeper than the melodramatic aspect of the o.j. . >> i think "o.j.: made in america" is certainly the most powerful docuseries of the decade and maybe the most power television, period, of the decade. >> and it happened in the same year as ryan murphy's "american crime story" installment about the o.j. simpson trial. >> i did not and could not and would not commit this crime. >> and so here is this story that we were obsessed with, and now here we are obsessed with it again. >> it became this kind of reference point for younger generations to understand the way that those murders and the trial consumed the country and how we, as an audience, turned this into a circus. we couldn't see it at the time, and the series forces us to look at that. >> people are used to learning a lot from television in the form of miniseries. and i think this mixing of somewhat documentary storytelling and the art of scripted storytelling was so compelling. >> i didn't see a lady or hit anyone. >> raymond saw you hit her. >> who's raymond? >> "when they se

o.j. simpson preliminary hearing was set later in june. that was ended.t was -- they did a secret grand jury which was much more prudent. states witnesses would not be cross-examined only once. the arraignment today comes on heels of a disturbing discovery, bret. an allegation that just before the four murders of these beautiful idaho university students, brian kohberger went into a female colleague's apartment, moved objects around, manipulating her into telling him about it at work and he offered to put in a security surveillance system. and then had access so he could watch her in her private moments in her apartment. now is that going to be part of this trial? likely no. but it is a step in the progression of a killer. >> bret: i've heard people say it's possible that brian kohberger could have been in this house before and been, as you mentioned, surveilling them in some way, shape or form. you look at the list of evidence here, seized from his apartment, the night rite gloves, a long list of things that prosecutors are saying they have come up with

o.j. simpson fan mail. before the murder trial. i was a big fan of his. >> a good clarification. did you get it all back? can we get a handwriting sample? >> before the murder trial or before the murder? i hope it was in between. >> how many times you hit the snooze alarm? >> none. i don't operate on an alarm system. i'm to paranoid about the time i have to get up. >> if you're paranoid white but you guarantee it. >> i'm up and i'm like nervous for an hour before him supposed to get up. >> isn't that interesting? >> my therapist think so. >> tom, do you hit a snooze? >> when i went to college, i lived with my grandma. i left her with a year. she would not allow alarm clocks in her house. she said we don't use alarm clocks in this house. you say a prayer and you tell god he will wake up. i did it. it worked. never used an alarm clock. >> george bush is like that. >> dana? >> and ever hit the snooze alarm. i feel like that would be a demerit and i don't like that. have for those alarm clocks, the hatch alarm clock that gets light. i swear by it. it's excellent. there's no noise. it

o.j. simpson trial severely limited the use of the word in his courtroom.a key witness for the prosecution used the word dozens of times. that was in the '90s. today, we are talking about a teacher in a classroom who used the same word that has a painful, painful history for so many people in our country. >> one of the ugliest, if not the ugliest word, that exists. thank you so much. joining us now, kate, the mother of 15-year-old mary walton and the attorney representing mary. how's your daughter doing? does she want to stay at the school? what's your reaction to this? >> mary does get to return to school tomorrow and she does intend to return. i think that the amount of attention that things have gotten, that was an unexpected turn for her. and i think that she, she would prefer things to be a little quieter. but she does intend to return and i'm proud of her for doing that. >> she is something of a whistleblower, but natalie, the school argues phones are not allowed in classrooms and this is just a matter of her breaking the rules. we should note the tea

o.j. simpson like wa? kennedy: they are. >> more than you think, man more than you think.ough out there. ken. >> it would never happen to me, i would never settle for someone who it, that i speak with no authority, i have a long line of cohen men who a proud did tradition of looking like hobbitting and bagging nothing but 11. i bagged a 15. i will speak to my kings and queens, you deserve better, you should not s settle, write down a list of what you want in a relationship and what you think you deserve in a relationship, if they are the same, you don't setter settle for less, if you think you don't desev what you want, work on that, build yourself up and then don't settle for anything less, i married way above anything, by not settling. kennedy: your wife is incredible. >> tasha is a phenomenal person. but so are you, i think you really touch on something very important. that is, people tend to devalue themselves, then, when you are devalued, you will settle. and then, someone who is benight you, who breaks up with you, is a piece of hot garbage. >> i like spike ad vice,

o.j. simpson, who was legally found not guilty. that's a legal fact and a rule of law.e have to reflect that. what everyone thinks. then he was found culpable civilly, and for the family, the system, and i think for the future of the rest of o.j.'s life, it was deemed as relevant to his culpability, i guess is what i'm saying. >> i think this has a similar effect, potentially. civil judgments do matter. they're not held to the statement standard of beyond a reasonable doubt. they don't carry the same penalties. these are allegations from many years ago. so in some sense i think the civil system is a good place for them. it would be hard to prove them beyond a reasonable doubt because so much type has passed, there's no physical evidence. yet there's this question of whether trump called someone a liar who had a terrible thing happen to her that he did. so the idea there could be some kind of potential judgment against him based on those facts, that seems significant. yes, i do think it matters. it's part of "me too" type of accountability. >> finally, do you find it sur

o.j. simp simpson is not guilty. sometimes they get it wrong.n't make sense. >> i know you're appealing it. they did find him civilly libel. it's a jury of nine people. i believe six women, three men. they found this. but i want to talk about this letter from two other attorneys on the former president's legal team they sent last night -- or they sent yesterday requesting a meeting with the attorney general merrick garland to talk about the special counsel's investigation. i'm assuming it's the documents investigation. do they want to meet with the attorney general or do they want to meet with the special counsel jack smith here? >> i'm not part of that team. i'm not sure what the intent was there. i have no idea. >> the assumption is that it means they believe they could be prepared to have an indictment. >> yeah. i'm not going to assume. i'll tell you one thing. what i've seen with the weaponization in the justice system and the durham report and what came out with something i personally litigated and i've seen. this we can't deny the facts. t

o.j. sim p p -- simpson trial, he severely limited the word in his courtroom.after a key witness used the word multiple times. and, again, that was in the 1990s. today is 2023. we're talking about the word used in a classroom. >> and the student being suspended for record bhag was happening. adrian, as you learn more, keep us updated. thank you. >>> the senate banking committee got its chance on tuesday to grill executives from signature bank and silicon valley bank more than two months ago the failure of svb shook americans' confidence in the banking system and triggered a domino effect that led to the collapse of signature bank and then weeks later first republic. in his first public remarks since the collapse, silicon valley bank's former ceo achieved what few could have in washington, unity among republicans and democrats. he attempted to deflect blame. >> the takeover of svb is devastating. i'm truly sorry how this impacted svb's employees, clients, and our shareholders. >> did you make my poor decisions? >> senator, based on a previous question asked abou