. >> that is like, you know, paul mccartney gets at the able, oakey doaky here is one of the greatestk it's more of, you know, i kind of think of its alike okay, i have a chunk of time and i want to correct this collection of things that hopefully fit together in some way. and record, the recording process because i do everything at home alone, it's kind of like that is a part of it as well. and hopefully at some period in there i can you know, hit a streak of writing new songs and they work out. and it doesn't work sometimes. and it becomes very frustrating. >> rose: are you conscience of developing a stage persona? >> i think, i mean, i think in a way, maybe, i think i was just trying to be jonathan richmond for a lot of years because i think he does the greatest shows that, you know, one of the greatest shows you can go. >> rose: what was so great about. >> i think his whole vibe is, for a long time he's being been doing it for years an years an years since the modern lovers. you about i don't know, it's this like, it's like a friendly invitation, he's not trying to be too cool. he