look at the bay bridge series over the weekend, the inside shots of the concourse at the oakland alameda coliseum, i would say maybe 1/4, 1/3 of people had masks on. they were asking me on friday what to do. i said, i would certainly wear a mask in that concourse, 40,000 people in the stadium. that strikes me as the better part of valor. there were a number of people who were, but there were also a number of people who were not. julian: should we go as far as mandating that the proper tool or levy that should be pulled at this point? should be up to common sense and folks taking it upon themselves? >> at the end of the day, it's going to have to be to common sense. the more you regulate this sort of stuff and mandate it, the greater the burden you put on business owners and people who are trying to run these things. short of bringing in the bullpen to enforce the mass mandate, i don't see them doing that. i think it really has to be driven by common sense. julian: want to get your take on the delta variant. are we beginning to see it level out in the bay area, in california, in the u.s.? where ar