really attractive to to me, he understanding that structure, his day job working for the oakland housing authority, he is out of the country, he's someone i'm interested in having sit on this committee but i think we're all in agreement with ms. hall. >> let me ask a question. >> supervisor cohen? >> is it possible to move ms. hall forward and reserve -- i don't know if this is seat number 2 that we're talking about, so that mr. loftman can come when he's come and talked to us while he's in the country? i'm just looking to gather all the information. >> do we know when he's coming back into the country? >> i believe it's at the beginning of may. i can double check that, may 1, yes. >> do we know when we have the next committee meeting? >> may 14th. >> so, we wouldn't be able to put a person before -- our next meeting is may 12th. >> just so i have an opportunity to gather all the facts, if he doesn't measure up, i will take your recommendation and we can move forward. >> okay. if the committee wants to do that, i will, you know, if there's agreement about that, i'm ready to support mr. cohen based