i cannot imagine sitting at the table of the chief of police of oakland or sacramento, and the chief of police being here. it does not end the questions. it is a conversation that has to get down to important issues. it has to start and meetings like this are a start to recognize. i think it is a real positive step. [applause] >> and although i would argue many of the things that were said today on the panel -- and i cannot believe i am going to say this -- i completely agree with john burris and stuart hanlon. [applause] >> thank you for giving my closing comments from me. i would like to thank the public defender's office for providing the public and anybody he wants to come to this forum, hearing from these experts, and they help you take away some good things from this -- and i hope you take away some good things you take away some good things from this panel. >> so many people here. this is the third and final panel for those of you who have stayed. this is going to be an incredible discussion. leading the panel, this is the chief attorney of the public defender's office, matt g

vale or san antonio districts, both of those areas had the highest rates of violent crime in the past five years. reporting live in oakland, cbs 5. >> a summer of traffic headaches in downtown sacramento has begun. crews got to work on some major central subway projects today. mike sugerman will show us how it will be worse before it gets better. >> welcome to san fransisco south of market district, be prepared to stay a while. actually be prepared to stop. >> it takes one hour to go approximately four city blocks and back to your destination. >> that and no parking, >> it is a headache all around. >> just tried to deliver beer around here. >> it puts him behind, and once you lose that time you never make it up. >> tony had 35 stops today and ran away from the start. >> in makes it difficult job more difficult. >> what is causing this summer of traffic is a hole in the ground. it is about to be able the ground. >> we're seeing preliminary work before get to the big dig, the exploration for natural subway tunnels. >> some of the tubes will be put in. i don't think that these are for the somewhere actually. these are small. it turns out that these are store lines. they're digging up the