-- of oldman olive oatman olive oatman ended up to be a huge says. she was living in -- success.he was living in new york. she swims to yuma, and they bring her to the commander -- a different commander, because yuma is a hellhole. nobody wants me in yuma. they still don't. the commander says, why did you bring me this mojave? it is olive oatman. no, it is not. it is a mojave. they had to pull her hair back and show the skin behind her air to prove that she was white. that is how she was assimilated with the mojaves. her brother lorenzo took the first day from southern california and came out and met her and they went into a room and sat for an hour and stared at each other because they could not talk. her transformation was that profound. she had assimilated herself into being a mojave. now, here is the part that i think is the smoking gun to this controversy, and that is they traveled by stage to california, which is el monte, and it was a hotel. and susan thompson, the one who i said was a perpetual picnic, that is her hotel. and they spent two weeks there, thathe wrote in the

so now two oatman girls are -- they walk.rally walk through here, probably through this gymnasium. it wasn't here. and they go through the needles, they get to where the town of needles is. they cross river. here's an interesting thing, and if you have a theory on this, i want to hear it. they keep crossing the river. now, they're great swimmers, we know that. she became a great swimmer, olive oatman herself did, okay? she was a really powerful swimmer, and she learned from the mojaves. now, how did they get -- let me fast forward. so when she's rescued, when she's field and we believe that she didn't want to be field because she'd spent four years there and probably had two children. so she's kidnapped again. and as my wife says, she lost two mothers. she lost her mother that was killed in the initial attack, she has a mother here at needles and is raising two children by the chief's son, and now these guys come up the river, and they were going to liberate her, okay? so she loses two mothers. she says an interesting thing.