frosted flakes and the people who gained weight are the people who skipped breakfast, not the oatmeal eaters. john: next, the snake and the cockroaches. . john: welcome back, while the animal handler and assistant cat have moved into the audience with their scary looking friends, at least some of the audience is freaked out by one of these guys. yet none of these snakes is really a threat to us. we are programmed to fear minor threats like that. it's something to contemplate as we face our fears this halloween. now it's your turn, and our studio audience's turn to talk back to tonight's guests. fear sociologist margee kerr and the heartland institute's james taylor. who's first? you just have no issues, what's your question, stop stroking it. [ laughter ] >> on the issue of running out of resources, now food and water are essentially nonissues at this point. but hydro carbon based fuels in the ground, oil, coal, if we keep using them, we would run out. maybe 500 years down the road, we would run out? >> if we keep using anything, essentially we're going to run out unless it regenerates, but