and, again, barack obama, michelle obama both get the puff ball interviews., you go back to 2007 when robin roberts interviewed laura bush, she couldn't get through that interview soft first lady interview without attacking her and said did he dd tutu says this country has to do more than bomb people. that's not the time of question you would expect them to ask laura bush but that's what they did. >> bill: bliewble that the do you believe that the production says to their talent mat lauer, charlie rose gail king go light on the president? go heavy on the republic go. after romney and give obama a pass? do you believe they say that to them? >> i'm not sure. but, let's take a look at who these people are obviously george stephanopoulos have to be told to favor the democrats or to be tough on the republicans? gail king, i mean, cbs brought in, you know, we think of gail king as open perhaps best friend but gail king was there celebrating the obama inauguration in the white house the night of obama's inauguration. she was just at the beyonce concert with michelle

his father, barack obama senior. we watched and saw the grave site of his great-grandfather, the person for whom the name derives. a kind of amazing stuff all day. >> host: you spend a lot of time talking about the kind of situations in kenya. what importance does that to your book? >> guest: it explains a lot about barack obama, senior. and this book is more than just the biography. it's about the places that created him come the people created him starting to generations back and moving through to obama himself. his father in some ways represented the promise and the frustrations of africa and kenya and all the more personal level there's a brilliance in the full and some of the tentative it tribalism. the second largest tried in kenya and the colonial period when the british dominated created this sort of tribalism on the different reserves in the different parts of the country so when they got independence and they got power, there was this unfortunate sort of conflict for power, and basically ever since 1963 the

obama still has -- >> bob: the misery index only goes to -- >> eric: it's 160. >> bob: obama in 2007?to obama. >> bob: so the last years of the bush administration and first of the obama administration, right? >> eric: hmm-mm. >> dana: we are talking about housing. the elephant in the room. the theory to let it go. president bush before him came up with programs to help the homeowners and help him hold on longer. so forget wall street. people in their homes that don't have government jobs don't feel fine so their misery income is up. the household income is down. they aren't using money to go on a luxury vacation, perhaps that is good but a ways to go to get to the bottom. >> andrea: the stimulus was supposed to make the wildest dreams come true, right? checks and everyone was supposed to have the goodies from the stimulus. it didn't happen. >> greg: speaking of spin. obama treats the economy like i treat my new shirt. i put it in the -- i always put it in the wrong cycle and it comes out, went from a large to medium. >> dana: now it fits. >> greg: that was completely -- >> wow! >> gr

no one gives obama credit.ince obama hates capitalism in the stock market he never talks about it, but hi ought to. stocks have liked obama. >> they like what the fed has done. we have had the easiest policy in this country. we poured money into the economy. in the long term a lot of the policies particularly from the fiscal side are dangerous for stocks and are unsustainable. i want to point out probably the best relationship we ever had was with bill clinton and the republican congress. they kept in check the spending. bill clinton was dragged to the center. i'm concerned that if you have a full sweep on the republican side, power has always corrupted and spending can run amok. >> do you believe that business believes that romney will be much better for business? do they believe that? business has been very profitable under obama. i know they are not hiring. i know it's an anemic economy in terms of growth rate. but business has made a lot of money under obama. i'll give you the last word. >> it's like jim sa

help us defeat obama care.beral agenda that makes government too big, too intrusive and is killing jobs across this great country. thank you so much. >> former governor mitt romney there talking and delivering his remarks to his reaction of the supreme court ruling saying he agrees with the dissenting opinions that voted in favor and ruled that the affordable care act is constitutional and the mandate will stand. ed, your reaction to this? >> well, i think mitt romney needs to walk down the street to the congressional budget office and get his facts straight. this is not going to blow up the deficit. this is not going to be a greater expense to america's budget. this is going to bringç down costs. that's exactly what the congressional budget office, the nonpartisan investigative arm of the congress for budgeting has stated time and time again. this is why the mandate being upheld was so important because if they didn't do that they wouldn't be able to sre the bill. they scored the bill that's going to save thi

i think obama hit it out of the park today. if you had latino voters the day before the elections watch romney's speech and this the president's speech today, i'd be surprised if the split wasn't 80/20. >> thank you. we appreciate it. up next, republicans are celebrating the supreme court's overturning health care reform but the trouble is it hasn't happened yet. stick around for the side show. >>> welcome back. time for the side show. first up, a glimpse into the future courtesy of republican senate candidate richard murdoch of indiana. in video he cheers the supreme court's decision to strike down the health care act. but the supreme court hasn't ruled yet. >> we've had our moment of celebration because the supreme court ruled it is unconstitutional. don't sit back and think the fight is over because it isn't. barack obama and congressman joe donnelly are already putting obamacare 2.0 together and they're going to try to pass it once again. we cannot let that happen. >> turns out the murdoch campaign is covering all bases and

that falls on obama's shoulders. i do think you will hear republicans talk about that. >> i would take the opposite view on talking about wealth. if you're wealthy, you know what wealth is, and you can evaluate it better, and it's personal to you, and it would make sense. i don't think the american people think any less of you as a historian of wealth or a categorizer of wealth or a definer of wealth or the tax components of it or the public good connected with it. i would think you think more. you're a billionaire. this is very true. >> look, i do think this country has always been a symbol of an opportunity to do whatever you can with your life, and people have -- a lot of people have made money, and that has always been a part of the american tradition. a lot of people have made a lot of money for many years in the middle class. the biggest store house of their wealth was their homes, and those homes have gone down and continue to go down well past the numbers you saw here, so it's well over 40%. it was the larges

of course, that's the intrnl struggle of obama. -- internal struggle of obama. can he keep his own sense of self and survive in this climate? or is it too -- is it too frustrating for him and too frustrating for the country to deal with this way? it's an open question. bill clinton book came out, he was at the nadir of his popularity. february, 1995. when gingrich said that he was running the country. i can tell then that clinton, because of those survival skills, because of his combination of flaws and talents, he would figure out a way to do it. with barack, still an open question. chris: president clinton would say i'm one of those big plastic blown up dummies -- knock them over and you bring him back and they always bounce back. >> i think that my study of obama is he has this same will as clinton. but he has a completely different set of survival skills. chris: let's talk about the hill. you know at that there's a world up there. there's nancy pelosi, the former speaker, maybe future speaker who is a liberal, got about 180 votes of liberals behind her. you

>>balad dijo que el presidente barack obama habla de una movía política .stadounidenses tienen en su pridente para algunos republicanos la decisión del presidente barack obama atenta contra la democracia del país . >> por cierto los protagonistas son los dreamers, los estudiantes que marcharon por todo estados unidos por ayuda, la mayoría se sienten norteamericanos quieren estudiar . >> por eso gritaron si se pudo . >> es para 800 mil pero podrían ser más, no les darán ni green card y nos son ciudadanos, pero es un primer paso y es importante . >> al grito de indocumentados sin miedo , un centenar de jóvenes se manifiestan en inmigración en los Ángeles . >> el esfuerzo es grande en el cambio . >> una acción planeada de tiempo que les da el derecho a protección y a permisos de trabajo . >> trabajamos hora por hora para esto y es una gran emoción ver que finalmente la administración lo pudo hacer . >> me trajeron cuándo tenía 11 años . >> el es sobresaliente ant de los 16 años que era castigado por una acción . >> me podre quedar en estados unidos y n estar e

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we can imagine why women are pro-obama.e's put the focus on health care, he's been supportive of women's rights of equal pay and other concerns when the republican party's become suspect on these issues, or forthrightly hostile. now about the men. if you look at obama's foreign policy record, he's been surprisingly tough out there. he's carried out a smooth withdrawal from iraq, begun a similar pullout from afghanistan. he's gotten bin laden, and just this week he got the new number two guy in al qaeda, so, again, why the obama problem with men? well, the latest nbc/"wall street journal" number has his approval number at 50% and rising among men nationally. that's not good. and obama's losing to men among romney right now, 49% to 40%, a nine-point spread. the reason is something bill clinton's campaign hammered home, i think, in winning the white house back in '92. it's the economy, stupid. men are particularly sensitive to humiliation, as we all know. being out of work is a humiliation. it carries an insult as well as an i

there are more than 21 separate taxes within obama care and as you point out president obama had promised americans through abc news which i'm going to call out because abc news has a chance for redemption here. they were used as tool by president obama in september of '09 when they let him get away with saying this was and the tax and now the supreme court is saying this was a tax and obama praises the supreme court decision and still wants to say it is not really a tax. anyway, there are 21 different taxes within obama care. this is huge because it is another broken promise. obama has a list of promises now that have been absolutely decimated. the only promise he has kept, sean, is that he with fundamentally transform america. >> sean: very well said. you said on i believe it was a tweet yesterday. might have been on facebook, i believe it was a tweet. the president lies and freedom dies. >> i tweeted that. >> sean: i want to ask you specifically about this lie. david axelrod was on thed to show earlier still insisting in spite of the supreme court decision this is not a tax. watch this

if we want to get rid of obama care, we're going to have to replace president obama.y mission is to make sure we do exactly that. >> supreme court decision was the good news for the president today. a clear case of you win some, you lose some. attorney general holder was held in contempt by the house over the fast and furious gun running sting. here to talk about it, ryan liza, washington correspondent for "the new yorker." katie pavish, news editor for the town hall. and author of "fast and furious." and charles blo. welcome to you all. you've heard the people tonight giving their views. what is your opinion of who's the winner and who's the winner today? >> i think in situations like this, you probably don't want to get too cute and counterintuitive. one of the candidates running for president wanted the supreme court to uphold this law. one did not. so to me, the clear winner is obama. and his administration. this is obviously the most significant thing he's done in his first 3 1/2 years. and i don't read much into the opinion that even, you know, conservative lega

blue, obama. president obama. pinkish is lean romney. light blue lean obama. on polls over the last 30 days, average of 30-day public polls. these are the latest. the plus or minus is based on romney. plus nine, let's say, it's romney plus nine. minus would be heading to president obama. what has changed since we last met? >> well, only three states have changed. two of them, iowa changed from lean obama to tossup. new hampshire went from strong obama to lean obama. those were both five-point margins on data happening in the last 30 days. one of them, montana went from lean romney to strong romney. but that is really because we haven't had a poll in a long time in montana. it probably shifted to the strong romney category a number of months ago. we just had a recent poll and it was the first in many, many months. interestingly enough, iowa and new hampshire both moved from where they were to favorable to romney. did so by five points and they're based on polls from the last 30 days. >> bret: karl mentioned it's over the 30-day ample so it's important to point

obama. mr. joins me live to tell me why he has left the democratic party and joined the republicans. also this evening, state governments across the nation are thinking about attaching a black box under your car to jack up your taxes on a mileage basis. which states are doing this black ops? it's nutty. we'll tell you about it. >>> first up, obama tacks romney's record on jobs while still playing defense on his own jobs record in light of friday's disappointing unemployment report. amon joins us with all the details. >> after focusing many of the early campaign attacks on romney's tenure as head of bain capital, the obama administration and campaign are shifting tactics, focusing their criticism on romney's tenure as governor of massachusetts. take a look at this new ad out today. >> i'm barack obama. i approved this message. >> it started like this. >> i speak the language of business. i know how jobs are created. >> but it ended like this. one of the worst economic records in the country. >> l

of barack obama?nothing. jobs? >> juan: what are you talking about? he said, look, 4 plus million jobs. we are not in a recession, trying to get out of a recession. he says by the way, tana will get mad at me on this. he said look, what you've got to do is not have a extension of the -- >> dana: said -- he what a walkback. in politics you should only get two walkbacks in their political career. they're using them all up. >> greg: it comes out of this bill is lonely. someone has to set him up. he says other things -- it's better to break the box spring than furniture. >> kimberly: my gosh! >> eric: hillary clinton in 2016. >> kimberly: of course. after eight years total of barack obama it will be a huge disaster, worse than jimmy carter. trust me. then she is going to run. he would rather run after romney. [over talk ] >> eric: coming up, coming up -- >> juan: wait, i'm not -- [ overtalk ] >> eric: trying to prevent another terror attack in new york city. that is not sitting well with jersey imams. kim

i talked to people in the obama world all the time. and part of the process is to eliminate the process of resumes, they want to get on to the specifics of the policy. so, you know, going after bain was perhaps a strategic misstep, they want to say, this is bain, this is what he did in the past, this is what he has done as governor. they feel they can say, in is the romney's prescription for the country, and this is obama's prescription. they feel that is a battle they can win. >> thank you, so much. >> take care. >> remember to answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen. and share your thoughts on twitter. we want to know what you think. the romney campaign is holding up john kasich as a poster boy for republican success, who gets the credit for the declining ohio employment rate. i'll tell you next, stay tuned. those surprising little things she does still make you take notice. there are a million reasons why. but your erectile dysfunction that could be a question of blood flow. cialis for daily use helps you be ready anyt

>>chris: i was talking with a top member of the obama campaign and said the big revelation is the obama campaign is not as good as you thought and there have been a series of miss steps whether it is in the fight with the catholic church over contraception and the president going so negative so early do you have a feeling in boston that we can beat these guys. >>guest: clearly a feeling in boston that governor romney is going do beat president obama. you can go back-and-forth about tactics and who won the week but at the end of the day, it is the candidates, and governor romney's experience and his record and his positive agenda for turning this country around are what will prevail at the end the day it is easy for political folks to look smart when things are going their way or look dumb when things aren't but the american people are smart and the candidates who matter and they will have their names on the ballot that is why we will have a change in november. >>chris: there is a recall election in wisconsin on tuesday, if republican governor romney wins, beats the recall, how much do y

he says it in some ways, better than obama can. obviously, obama can't really say all the struggles he's up against. it makes him sound like he's complaining but bill clinton can and that's the exact amessage that the obama campaign wants. >> thank you both very much for going me tonight. >>> coming up, the latest on tonight's vote in wisconsin. governor scott walker and lieutenant governor rebecca klefish, both rupps, have held on to their seats. are so amazi, you'll get lost in an all-beef hot dog world. what was i supposed to wish for? why am i wearing a bow-tie? where did i leave my bicycle? after all, when you're enjoying the beefiest, juciest bite of pure kosher beef, nothing else matters. goodness gracious, that's kosher. with no fillers, by-products, artificial flavors or colors. hebrew national. the better-than-a-hot dog- hot dog. ♪ what started as a whisper every day, millions of people choose to do the right thing. there's an insurance company that does that, too. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your pol

we'll talk with a former advisor to president obama in a moment. first we welcome ed gillespie, senior advisor to mitt romney and good to have you back, ed. >> good to be back, thank you. >> chris: start with the jobs picture for the first two months of 2012, job growth it averaged 267,000 jobs a month. for the the last three months it has averaged 96,000 with just 69,000 jobs created in may. question, what does governor romney think is the problem? >> the problem is this administration and this president policies are hostile to job creators and we see that on any number of fronts whether it is the excessive regulations and mandates. the mandate in the president's healthcare bill alone was estimated to cost 850,000 jobs in or economy by the congressional budget office. look at the keystone pipeline decision which would have had an immediate impact on job creation. the proprosed tax increases on job creators. this is a hostile environment for job creation in our economy and it has a sense of urgency in terms of this year's election to be able to tur

the obama campaign is trying to find a message that sticks. attacked him on bain and didn't quite work. then attacked him on being governor of massachusetts and it didn't quite work. they are trying to find what attack will stick on mitt romney and they will have lots of opportunities to pick. a big challenge because no matter what happens it is the economy that is going to drive the message for the next five months, this is nothing else. >> chris: briefly juan, at this point we heard from the president and his people on friday. didn't happen quickly and not going to be solved overnight. it has been three and a half years. continue the policies. does he say stay the course or have to come up with some late correction? >> i don't think a late correction is believable. it would reek of desperation at this point and people wouldn't trust it. it has to be a mess thank says we are in the middle of stormy waters, don't change captains at this moment and remember exactly where we departed from. you know we were in bad situation and if you look at the

. >> president obama is fired up on the campaign trail. but a number of not-so-fired up democrats are skipping the democratic national convention. is the president's popularity slipping within his own party? we'll put that question to congressman chris van hole alan. >> did you ever think you would be choosing two people running for president one of them a swiss bank account. >> continues to slam the class warfare drama. is their message resonating with the american people? we'll debate it. >> would you look at margie? she looks amazing. >> well, she told me that food stamp benefits help her eat right and she stays active, too. >> sounds like the federal government wants more people on food stamps with taxpayer dollars going towards this advertising campaign. what's going on here? caution, you where to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >> juan: hi, i'm juan williams in for bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. no talking points memo because we want to get right to the top story. the house of representatives has

i think this is a result of the tax policies of the obama administration and the regulation of obamaame mistakes that hoover and fdr made during the 1930s. >> i knew hoover. i knew him. all right. art hogan, let me go to you. you believe that the outcome of the wisconsin election, if scott walker is victorious, that could be a game changer for the stock market. tell us more. >> it's a turning point. a turning point because it gives us a blueprint for what might be the outcome of the presidential election. another turning point here, though, something to think about, the only reason i disagree with michael and i hardly ever do, is that i think we've priced in more bad news than we've priced in good news. by that i mean i think we have more of an upside surprise in terms of reacting to news than downside surprise. we just talked about this. we have been concerned about europe for a couple years and are certainly hyper-concerned about it right now. we priced a lot of that in. what we haven't priced in is somebody doing something right. germany raising the hand and saying i've got your b

but team obama's trailing.to win some primaries so i can see where there would be a spending difference. >> yeah, but you look at the proportions here, this is obviously abstract at this point because who cares about campaign finance apart from people like us? but in the end you're going to face a situation, easily before the fall, where romney is being outspent by his own super pac who is taking the lead of who here? yes, he had expensive primaries to deal with but there's no equivalency, there's no democrat super pac. it's a teeny pac. it's barely a pac at

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he needs an ice cream sundae and a foot rub. >> bob: clin top or obama? >> kimberly: obama.p wants one, too. >> bob: bad week. you listen to you talk about this and it's the end of the world. silly. you don't know anything about politics. >> greg: i agree with bob. >> bob: she is a good writer but she knows nothing about politics. >> greg: i agree. it's five months away. these are little things. dog, dead of summer there is no great stories. but peggy noonan is right, the things are mounting. they're sending a message about the leftism and liberalism after the recall, occupy wall street. people are sick and tired of big government. >> eric: you know why it matters, robert? when we find out yesterday and today the fundraising for the two catches, romney for the first time outraised president obama because they are going in the wrong direction. >> dana: those are 90% of the contributions under $250. >> bob: excuse me. >> kimberly: that is significant. >> bob: under $200 are under 9% for romney. 48% for president obama. >> dana: i must have read it wrong. >> bob: the fact is th

where is obama, by the way?n friday. >> andrea: he will not abeen done colorado in 2012. >> dana: he could have gone yesterday and dumped the fundraiser. >> bob: what? take a fire truck out there? >> eric: go and talk to the governor. asked if obama spoke to the governor and jay carney wasn't sure. >> bob: this is a horrible thick going on. i live in jackson wyoming for a number of years. had a place in jackson, wyoming, in the big forest fires in yellowstone. one thing here, we keep putting the fires out. they're not started by human beings. they're started mostly by lightning fir strike. they should be allowed to burn out. it's the underbrush. unless we let mother nature take a course -- and people are building in fire zones and feel terrible for them, but they have made a choice to live there. >> andrea: mother nature take its course? there is a report that the ember, as you point out, the wind, the ember could burn, blow with the wind and start a new fire. they can't keep up with the embers. >> bob: they all

president obama. the supreme court upholding his signature legislative achievement while a disappointment to republicans, this was not a complete win for the obama administration. >> the supreme court up held the key feature of president obama's health care over haul, the individual mandate which will require nearly all americans to buy health insurance. chief justice john roberts wrote that congress did have the power to pass that reform because it has the power to tax. >> the supreme court has made it clear what we have known all along, that those trying to block health care reform are standing on the wrong side of history. >> the ruling also let stand the part of the law that allowed children to stay on their parent's insurance policies until they're 26. the court struck down the law's medicaid expansion. the courts ruling has significant implications for the future of health care and for president obama's legacy. the president made passing reform his top priority. when congress approved it in 2010

obama.esterday after the supreme court's decision to uphold the president's health care law, that anger found a new target. the chief justice, john roberts, who voted with the liberals on the court. glenn beck is selling t-shirts. look at that one with roberts' face above the word "coward." that's sophisticated. conservative activists say he will be seen as a traitor and jack kingston of georgia tweeted he doesn't feel like being roberts' friend anymore. kind of high school. we're going to look at some of the wildest reactions from the right and ron reagan is also an msnbc political analyst. here we are back basically in high school, guys, when somebody just won the student council election. and somebody else didn't. this is so, it goes from the ferocious to the childish. sarah palin soon after the decision, quote, obama's -- obama lies, to freedom dies. that was last night on fox. she elaborated with some ominous warnings. let's watch. >> if obama is re-elected, well, &l no longer recognize

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something obama has vowed not to do.president clinton seems to have changed his mind saying president obama is, in fact, doing the right thing. >> i support his position. but we really were -- i'm very sorry about what happened yesterday. it was what i thought something had to be done on the fiscal cliff before the election. apparently, nothing has to be done until the first of the year. >> laura: syndicated columnist charles krauthammer analyzed president clinton's flip-flop. >> psychiatry, there's a term that you get a raving lunatic, excuse me, psychotic who comes in the door and makes no sense, you say he's speaking in word salad. this is word salad with a vinaigrette on it. i think you can sort of look at him and you know that he's saying -- essentially, he's doing with a wink and a nod i'm under duress. don't pay any attention to what i'm saying. >> laura: like a hostage tape. with us now, fox news contributor lany davis, a former special counsel to president clinton. first of all, i'm so glad you're here on a day

the increase for the obama administration is 134%.o, it's not -- what i find amazing about this, the more you talk about mitt romney's record and, you know, that the -- the desire to look back, the more it shows that the obama administration is not putting out any ideas for the future. and the more you do that, the more this is going to be a referendum on barack obama's first-- >> but, mitt romney does not want this to be a referendum on massachusetts. doesn't want this to be a referendum on-- >> on obama. >> well, part of the reason he doesn't is because you have a massachusetts legislature overwhelmingly populated with obama voters, overwhelmingly democratic-- >> overriding his vetoes, where he did try to cut spending and try to cut taxes and the results are-- you would have to say mediocre in you're a small business government person and worse, because he gave us romney care, but if you wanted more spending restraint in massachusetts, you probably would have needed more people to-- >> and fewer, what does that say about the point i