on oober 30, 2008, then senator obama abt to become president obama promised to fundamentally transform great country from capitalist power house to a liberal wasteland. rife with redistribution a social progressivism. he is trying to do that but i'm trying to fight for conservatism and capitalism along the way. see you on "the five." have a great weekend, everybody. ♪ ♪ououououou. i appreciate that. safe weekend, everybody. >>> let's assume someday the people working at the website healthcare.gov will get it working. then what? does anybody at health and human services know how to run a siness? we'll ask a man who has done it very successfully. john mcafee. right here, right now. >> from the fox business network headquarters in new york ciy, it's "the tom slivan show." here's yr host tom sullivan. >> thanks for joining us here.w this week a health care expertr and economics professor at harvard sent a memo three years ago detailing the problems with the fact that nobody at hhs knew how to build a business orad ever done a startup. he detailed not only organizational but also personnel

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>> i thought long and hardpi abt the picture i thought best reflected who i thought president obama was one. i made ha mistake. can we get the actual picture. oh, there you go. >> krrl marx.the >> dana said president obama doesn't take a bad picture. i have a couple unofficial photo which is are actually presidenta obama. look at the first one. remember this. >> mom jeans. >> i got another one. there he is with the mom jeanse throwing like a girl. those are both a.p. photos. >> there is too little access to president obama. i mean, they protect this guy like he was somehow goinprg to explode if he gets actual -- it's not only the press because dana is right. most times the photos help theel politicians. but this is a larger complaint about the congress. the congress says they never see the guy. the response that comes back from the white house is, look, a he's got two young children. he wants to spend time. dude, you're the president. you got to do the job. you've got to play the game. that's the only way you're goino tob. get these things done.g you've got to make the sacrifice. >> you