but then for reasons that many people have discussed and will endlessly discuss, the obama administration, you know, took a turn probably six months into the administration and generated a lot of issues that we ended up -- >> so you're talking about, to make sure i understand, the ramp up of the drone program which had the use of unmanned aerial vehicles to target, surveil and engage in lethal force. this program, this technique came to be used under bush administration but it ramped up significantly under the obama administration. >> uh-huh. >> so what was your reaction when that happened? how did you come to litigate these memos and force these documents as well as just as you'd done the interrogation documents out of the government? why did you do it? what was the concern? >> well, i guess there were sort of parallel concerns. one was about transparency. so there were news articles in 2009-2010 about the ramp up of this program. we were interested to know what the scope of the program was, who were we targeting, what were the results of these -- what were the results of these strikes,

may be new evidence showing the obama administration spied on the trump team. we will have the story and reaction. lauren: would you pay for a premium version of twitter? the company sure hopes so, we are going to explain. nicole: in sports, oh, oh, another bracket buster xavier upsets arizona but the number one gonzaga grinds a close win against virginia. we will have the highlights. lauren: friday 24th of march. we welcome you to fbn:am. you're watching fbn:am, first look at morning markets and breaking news. nicole: white house budget director mick mulvaney says if the bill fails the president is ready to move onto other issues like tax reform. this comes after republican leaders delayed a vote yesterday after failing support from the freedom caucus to pass the bill. white house secretary sean spicer on the -- congressman a freedom caucus member was on tucker carlson tonight says it's going in a better direction. >> i remained undeclare sod that we maximized our capability to influence the bill in the right direction up until the very end and so i have to le

the idea behind the obama administrative directive -- and obama -- obama administrative directive, as the population begins to fall they can shut the prisons down. host: homeland security through immigrations and customs enforcement also uses the private prison system. explain that. guest: immigration and customs enforcement is heavily dependent on private prisons, more so than the justice department. for the two thirds of people are held in facilities run by private prison companies. this is something that under the obama administration, the department of homeland security's advisory council looked at, and actually there was a pretty contentious vote. in the end, the advisory council in december advised the department to begin a measured but deliberate phaseout of its reliance on private prisons, much in the same way as the justice department. of course that no longer applies to this administration. host: is someone undocumented is picked up by ice and put in one of these private prison corporations, what kind of setting to they encounter? guest: it is essentially indistinguishable f

spokesperson to president trump's wiretapping allegation saying, devote, a cardinal rule of the obama administration was that no white house official ever sbfrninterf with any independent investigation. and it says as part of that practice, neither president obama nor any white house official ever ordered surveillance on any u.s. citizen. and he ends with saying any suggestion otherwise is simply false. should president trump accept that response and let this go? >> well, we will find out whether that response is true or not when we go back through and audit the fisa warrants and identify that and i think that is an obligation we have. but when they assert that president obama never interfered with any investigation, they are discounting the public statements that barack obama practice in protection of hillary clinton when he said she would never intend to sxro about m compromise our national security. and curiously james comey oig said there wouldn't be a prosecution of hillary because they couldn't prove intent. that was never a requirement, but it certainly affected the investigation of hillary c

a cardinal rule of the obama administration was that no white house official ever interfered with any president obama nor any white house official ever ordered surveillance on u.s. citizen. any suggestion otherwise is simply false. they're saying the president didn't order that however you know that means that somebody else ordered of the surveillance donald to donald trump. >> they were right to respond to that. there are two way that is american citizens can get caught up in wiretaps that are involved in national security investigations, one if they get caught talking to foreign official being surveilled. talking to the russians. the other is if law enforcement, the fbi or other law enforcement agencies go to a court called the feifa court and get a warrant to tap the individual, that's a process that the obama administration was making very clear in the statement yesterday was not -- would not have been directed by president obama or the white house. >> not directed by the white house but they were essentially confirming that there was surveillance. >> i don't think i would read th

what we do know is that the administration -- i'm not saying that barack obama personally, but the administrationa administration, did target conservative groups -- >> absolutely. >> neil: we do know that they targeted reporters at the justice department. so there's murky precedent for doing this kind of stuff. but it's a big leap of the president tapping phones. but if the administration were concerned about russian hacking and the election, you think it would be a stretch to explore these connections between candidate trump and later president-elect trump and the russians? >> it's a complete stretch. it's a stretch because the president of the united states has no ability to personally order wiretaps on anyone. a federal judge does from the fisa court. that's the first thing. secondly, donald trump can -- >> neil: you think the fisa court would have done that? >> an excellent question. why does donald trump want and investigation that the fisa court -- he has information that the fisa court authorized wiretaps? to do so, they would have documents, facts and evidence that reach the level of prob

back and have a trial where he could testify about all of his connections to people in the obama administration or bush or clinton administration. this guy's so dangerous, we yemen, ow him up in silence him forever. don't want to give this guy a trial. silence him forever, the first american citizen to be ordered killed by a president without a trial with a drone strike. alaki. there's so many others. muslim brother -- former president of egypt who was removed by the large -- well ordered removed by the largest gathering of peaceful demonstrators in the history of the world. these were incredible egyptian ople, muslims, christians, ws, secularist ordered the removal of corrupt the president of egypt, even though we had senator mccain over there that they release this muslim brother and put him back in charge. he was on his way in becoming what chavez was to venezuela, he was about to be that for egypt. so it wasn't just democrats that were fooled. but thank god -- i do, thank god that the egyptian people would not have it. he claimed to have had 13 million or so votes, but the egyptians told me

i think that we in the obama administration-- those are of us who served in the obama administration-ed to be very careful as we criticize the process that the trump administration used to approve this. first off, to approve this raid, it would have gone through several hurdles just through the department of defense before being presented to the president. when we in the obama administration brought these options to the president, it followed a very deliberate interagency process. it's what worked for president obama. just because we've seen, quite frankly, a lot of-- a lot of mess in the trump administration thus far in their first month, i think we have to be careful about saying we had all the answers during the obama administration. i think colin would agree with that. this president's going find a decision-making process that works for him. what happened in yemen may cause him to rethink the way in which he approved this raid. because you can always delegate authority. you can never delegate the risk. ultimately, you're going to own that, as dr. gorka mentioned from the white hou

now lamely claiming it was fake news even as she spoke the truth about what the obama administration ing. the urgency to surveil the trump administration. >> yeah. i mean, it's unbelievable. you've got somebody in the department of defense talking about that the trump administration might discover the sources and methods that were used to get information on the trump transition team, and that they might destroy them. i'd say, hallelujah, that's american -- that's using the american intelligence community to spy on americans and to spy on a transition team. it's awful. lou: i'll make you a bet right now. the people destroying all of that information aren't anyone associated with the trump administration, it's all the obama leftovers scrambling to figure out what in the hell is she talking about. speaking of what in the world is going on here, the obama administration now we get a tick tock on what happened with devin nuÑes, the head of the house intelligence committee, and that is apparently national security folks in the trump white house discovered this, the result ofes incidentally

new reaction this hour to a series of explosive president trump tweets that accuse the obama administration of wiretapping trump tower. a story that broke just before 7:00 this morning. and we begin with new reaction to those allegations by president obamaobama -- preside trump accusing the obama separation. here just one of six tweets. he wrote, quote, terrible, just found out that obama had my wires tapped in trump tower just before the victory. nothing found. this is mccarthyism. and here is lindsey graham at a town hall this morning. >> the president of the united states is claiming that the former president of the united states ordered wiretapping of his campaign last year. i don't know if it's true or not, but if it is true, illegally, it would be the biggest political scandal since watergate. >> senator graham went on to say if the obama administration was able to secure a warrant to wiretap, that would be concerning because it meant there was a reason the court would allow it. meanwhile, here's what congressman mole ton who sits on the armed services committee told thomas robertss t

then we have the new regulations that the obama administration put on top of that.hat is why our mission is to go through all of those regulations and find those hampering economic growth and free our economy. >> only five weeks in, and already folks are talking about the rest of the trump agenda, and what's yet to come. sko what can we expect in the weeks ahead? >> well, i'm sure as you heard from the president, you can expect a lot of action coming from the president and from his administration. we have an incredible cabinet that has mostly been confirmed. once we iffen getting through the democratic obstruction in the senate, we'll get the rest of our cabinet put in place, and begin to implement the president's vision across all these agencies. but at a much higher level. the president has said clearly and consistently that we're going to repeal and replace obamacare. that's an issue that i work on closely with secretary price and leadership in the house and senate right now to deliver on that promise to the american people. we're going to work on tax reform and

president obama respond saying quote a cardinal rule of the obama administration was no white house officialver interfered with any independent investigation led by the department of justice. as part of that practice, neither president obama nor any if white house official ordered surveillance on any u.s. citizen. any suggestion otherwise is false. but mr. obama's statement says neither he north white house ordered the wiretapping. not that in trump's organization wasn't tapped. the other big story of the day. president trump issuing an extreme vetting executive order. iraq lists in the previous order a was removed this time because of improved screening and reporting by the iraqis. green card current visa holders exclude from the president's new order. jeff sessions ann and john kelly described the order as critical to our national security. >> we cannot compromise our nation's security by allowing visitors entry when their own governments are unable or unwilling to provide the information we need to vet them responsibly. >> we are not immune to terrorist threats and our enemies often use o

new calls from president trump for an investigation into the obama administration that they wiretappedm the administration has denied. donald j. trump is requesting that as part of the investigation into russian activity the congressional intelligence committee exercise their oversight authority to determine whether executive branch investigative powers were abused in 2016. >> meanwhile, here is the nation's former spy chief responding on "meet the press" earlier today. >> if something like that happened would this be something you would be aware of? >> i certainly hope so. obviously, i can't speak officially anymore, but i will say that for the part of the national security apparatus that i oversaw as dni there was no thought to wiretap activity mounted against the president-elect at the time or as a candidate or against his campaign. >> there is no fisa court order? >> not to my knowledge. >> of anything at trump tower? >> no. >> joining me now msnbc national security contributor andy cohen, former national director of the cia and form are undersecretary of the treasury for the intel

and somebody as you say worked in the obama administration. y, there is no evidence. he is to be clear leaving the door open. we may find evidence of a problem. but as an obama partisan and expert on russia he is saying very clear people, calm down, there may be some smoke here but there is no suggestion yet, yet that there is fire. that is a very important thing for an obama person to say that he is not a trump person. abby: something comes out about general michael flynn, not michael flynn jeff sessions and all of a sudden there is this rush for him to resign. you hear from a call there he is saying calm down, everybody. on or about sh obama person. pete: important what sessions said. it was not illegal. he asked in the context of the campaign whether there was conversations between sessions as a surrogate and what was implied and russia. he said no. he wasn't talking about the campaign when he came to his office. obviously people knew who he was backing. ed: he was wearing two hats. he met as a senator on the armed services committee. fair.

statement from the president, the former president's spokesperson and a cardinal rule of the obama administration was that no one house official ever interfered with any independent investigation led by the department of justice. as part of that practice, neither president obama nor any white house official ever ordered surveillance on any u.s. citizen. any suggestion otherwise is simpsi simply false. a categorical denial he was in any way involved and other former obama administration officials made this on it that the president himself did not order wiretaps. we are still waiting official comment from the white house. you heard from my colleague, jeff zeleny, who did speak with an administration official was able to shed some light on where the president may have gotten this idea that somehow the former president was involved in wiretapping. he has returned to mar-a-lago and spent several hours at the trump international golf club in west palm beach where he played at least a few holes of golf. upon arriving there, we were told he would have meetings and make phone calls and may hit a few balls

surveillance order will be documented. >> right now the executive branch is controlled not by the obama administration, but by the trump administration. so whatever information is out there, and there would be a paper trail, is now controlleded by the executive branch controlled by mr. trump. >> reporter: chris wallace was told that he's seen no evidence that a survey len order was authorized for mr. trufr for his businesses at trump tower. >> i have seen no evidence of the allegations we've seen in the media, chris. whether that's a potential by the court application or denial of that application or resubmission of an application or surveillance. doesn't mean none of these things happened. i haven seen that yet. >> reporter: short time ago chuck shumer sending this letter to the justice department inspector general, their eupbd pen den watch dog, calling on

it's important to note here that these tweets cap off weeks of blaming president obama and his administrationing information about trump's campaign contact with russia. >> i think that president obama is behind it because his people are certainly behind it. and some of the leaks possibly come from that group. but i also understand that's politics. and in terms of him being behind things, that's politics. and it will probably continue. >> let talk more about this with cnn senior media correspondent brian stelter. he's also the host of reliable sources. you're been doing some digging. everyone is trying to figure out what the impetus of his tweets this morning? what information are you getting about what may have inspired him to tweet the way he did? >> our conspiracy theory president is at it again. whenever something like this happens i wonder what are the president's sources of information? where is he getting these ideas? it could be from intelligence briefings, classified intelligence briefing. in that case he might be sharing classified information on twitter. however this tweet came arou

a cardinal rule of the obama administration was that no white house official ever interfered with any independent investigation led by the department of justice. as part of that practice, neither president obama nor any white house official ever ordered surveillance on any u.s. citizen. any suggestion otherwise is simply false. very vigorous denial there. and we've had other former senior officials in the obama administration point out that a president doesn't order wire-taps. other officials have said this is nonsense and it didn't happen. >> we're hearing a last-minute addition to the president's public schedule today. what can you tell us about that in. >> that's right. couple of things, we knew he was planning to have dinner tonight with commerce secretary wilbur ross, but they've added a meeting at 6:30 on this official schedule that was put out, a meeting the president will have with the attorney general, jeff sessions and with the secretary of the department of homeland security, john kelly. an hour later the president will sit down with sessions and kelly, and also with the co

the obama administration took great steps. it was a campaign step from day one to close gitmo. this president is very clear that he understands the nature of the threat that the people in gitmo pose to our nation. and the recidivism rate there are among people we have released. that is a concern he shares. the reason the bush administration did it was in many cases they were under court order. the obama administration made it actually a priority to let people go and to actively desire to close that camp and release more and more of those people, especially in the waning days. there's a huge contrast between the posture and policy of the last two administrations on how

ben rhodes says there is a cardinal rule at the obama administration, no white house official ever interfered with any independent investigation and neither president obama nor any white house official ever ordered surveillance on any u.s. citizen and any suggestion otherwise is false. operative word to me, ordered. >> that many right. there is a big difference between ordered and knowing everything else about it. ben rhodes doesn't deny they knew of everything else about this fisa warrant tapping into the trump campaign in the middle of the fall election. if this happened, folks need to understand this is what the tactics of a police state are, to use intelligence gathering against political opponents. it makes watergate look like a joke. they were bugging the office of a secretary with a piece. hardware from the 50s. this is entirely different if it's true. judge jeanine: when the president made that allegation, and this is based on open source reporting, which means a number of credible reporters, media reported on this, or a lot of source supporting there was a fisa warrant, a trump tower

seemed to acknowledge the president was wrong when he tweeted 122 prisoners released by the obama administration from gitmo had returned to the battlefield, in fact, was mostly by the bush administration. will he retract or even apologize for that, given he also called it a terrible decision by the obama administration, and given that that was incorrect, there still has been no proof either of his tweets about widespread voter fraud or the wiretapping, does

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they are now releasing information about what happened in a comey meeting with top obama administration officials? this is helping no one except perhaps the obama people. >> sean: what is your take on evelyn farkas? she is out now. she is with hillary. and her original comment which he walked back today and a major way, my interpretation was very clear what she was talking abou about. surveillance, unmasking and potentially leaking to our friends upon the hill. intelligence. what to make of those comments? why is she still on tv? where is her lawyer? >> i think your initial comments are probably more accurate. it blew up in the last 24 hours. to me, it is becoming increasingly clear. i think you agree that there are a number of trump transition people whose names were unmasked and released to various friends in the press. these individuals had nothing to do with the russian investigation. zero. but they wanted to demonize these people and they wanted to most of all, sean, delegitimize the trump conservative populist agenda. they were going to delegitimize him on immigration, tax reform,

dennis, the obama administration did not have a good relationship with the gcc. especially with saudi arabia. and the emirates. now, with the trump administration in power, how does the trump administration, or what does the trump administration want from the gcc on iran, on isis, and finally, on that of the israeli issue? because when netanyahu came, he says he sees a change. i'd like your analysis on that. >> well, i don't represent the trump administration, and so i don't want to be in a position where i would be asked to try to say i know what their policy is going to be. because i might not express it very well. but i think what we -- at least drawing from the press conference, it does seem that the -- that the president at least has an interest in broadening the circle, creating a regional approach, at least on the arab-israeli issue, which is not a simple thing to do. and i do think that -- and you would know this as well as anybody -- that both the saudis and emirates at this point are hopeful about the trump administration. they viewed fairly or not that

they put out a statement and said a cardinal rule of the obama administration was that no white house official interfered with any independent investigation led by the department of justice as part of that practice. neither president obama nor any white house official ever ordered surveillance on any u.s. citizen. any suggestion otherwise is simply false. what you read into that statement? there are some issues. >> that may raise more questions than answers. it would the president ordering it. it would be technically be fisa judge. it wouldn't be the white house, it would be the department of justice. you can't take much comfort from that. they may have known about it. they just said they didn't order it. >> it would have to be signed off by the attorney general. i can't conceive of it happening until the attorney general knowing it and discussing it with the white house before pretty big deal if it's true. elliott, thank you. up next, were you touched by this moment? my next guest says it should make your skin crawl. can you imagine that? i will make him answer for that up next. tech

maria: do you expect that this investigation will include the obama administration tapping the trump ration? >> i think it has to include the whole spectrum here how much was legitimate and how much political and if how this information was maintained and protected. if you're going to be involved in any investigation of a can date for president and nothing comes from that, that has to be -- no one should ever, ever see that. the fact -- there's no government. people starting in december when someone in the intelligence community started leaking out about russia and dossier. that's leak aflac. this is in many cases criminal. general frin, the conversation with the russian embassador. that was a crime whoever leaked that. maria: before we go. i want to switch conversations on you given you are a member of the homeland security committee. we are expecting the president to come out with a new executive order as early as tuesday of next week in terms of the travel ban, how would it look different? >> i think it's going more more specific and refind and probably allow people with visas and

but they need to reminds the american people what the obama administration did. if the obama justice department collected phone calls and emails of reports and news executives. and they went after tea party groups. but president obama has the obligation to provide proof. if he's going to make such a staunch accusation. howie: the president was apparently spurred by a long in monologue in "breitbart," and that seems to be why he went on this saturday morning tweet storm. does any of that raise questions for you? >> sure. the questions it raises is about trump and his mental processes. most presidents would want to talk to the f.b.i. and justice department lawyers and try to talk find out the official things. trump doesn't roll that way. one of the oldest adages in the business is if the president says it, it's news. howie: in the course of the investigation about russia we don't know if the request was granted. but would president obama have any personal involvement with that putting out a statement saying president obama nor his administration never ordered the in

and the turkish military was never on the table during the obama administration. although of course turkey committed its own forces into northern syria late in the day and the administration. unclear how this administration looks at it. i think they had been trying to see if there was some way they could do this without angering a nato partner in turkey. and this may be why they're putting more u.s. forces on the ground, so they don't have to provide the same type of equipment to the ypg. they may have to head too otherwise done if they had been trying to do this with fewer u.s. forces. >> woodruff: so bulent aliriza as you step back, does if look like the trump administration is making a smart move here in the way they are handling this. >> i think the primary president vacation here is to try and live up to the commitment that trump made during the campaign. to actually deal with isis as quickly as possible. and in this case, the syrian kurds offered the best option in order to get this done as soon as possible. beyond that i think there are lots of complications

>> well, something fishy happened the final week of the obama administration. e quietly changed the line of succession of the justice department so that an obama friendly prosecutor would be put in charge should jeff sessions have to recuse himself. now, obviously last week attorney general jeff sessions did recuse himself from certain investigations involving the trump administration. fortunately a fee weeks before that the trump white house caught onto the obama administration had done and changed the line of succession back such as a respected career justice department official will be handling those investigations. however, the prospect of an obama crony having the power to appoint a special prosecutor launch a politically charged inquest into the white house raises a question. did the obama administration try to plant a booby snap to insnare trump white house. in the absence of another explanation that's a lot what it looks like. brian: how does sally united states fit into all this. the new person in charge acting investigator would be dana buenta. >> he w

the obama administration should have said, we're going to participate in creating a safe area. provide flyover, provide people there. we're going to provide a safe area for refugees to come to. until the until the war's over and people can return to their homes. rather than create a system that will allow our enemies, the islamic state and others, to do as they promised us they've been doing and will continue to do, and that is putting their terrorists in amongst the refugees, instead of doing that, putting our country at risk, let's let them stay near to their home, provide them safety, help provide them what they need. because when the greatest country, strongest country, most

we were concerned that the obama administration officials involved in this would be known by the trump administration. guess what? the president of united states is donald trump so of course he would know that. and it brings up the third issue, the third issue is what in the world do they think they have that they could justify doing this and sean, i sit on your program weeks ago -- loretta lynch, john brennan,it these were the ones to be looking at. look who signed off on theses orders and wanted this unmasking. you have the whole issue ofhe unlawful unmasking. leaked information by the way to a third party he was no longer a governmentir official. >> sean: it was more than that according to one report, she was an advisor to hillary clinton at the time. >> that would even make it worse but at that point, you are pouring felony on top of felony. >> sean: based on what she said on that show, is a legal jeopardy? >> don't call me but she needs to hire a lawyer. how she got information trying to hide it from the incoming administration. the fbi or department of justice -- >> sean: when sh

a cardinal rule of the obama administration was that no white house official ever interfered with any independent investigation led by the department of justice. as part of that practice, neither president obama or white house official ever ordered surveillance on any u.s. citizen. any suggestion otherwise is simply false. okay, they did not order it. did they know about it? that statement never said president obama did not know about it, just that you did not know about it. the question that we need answered is very simple and very basic. it did in fact the president of the united states, what did he know and when did he know it. did the president have any answers about surveillance of an opposition candidate in the middle of an election? the american people deserve the truth. he does not have much credibility because why? the administration wiretapped the phone of our own colleague, james rosen, former attorney general, who knows a thing or two about this entire process. >> this is the difference of being correct and right. i do not think president was correct in saying that preside

it was not just obama administration policy.bama administration made the calculation cuba was a lesser national security threat than venezuela was. did that mean they trimmed their sails a little bit on being more aggressive on venezuela? that is possibly true. but i do not think they were linked as directly as you might think. >> i generally agree with chris. i do not think there is much of a cost to sort of sanctioning venezuela. there is not much of a cost for hitting the country in that regard. it does not have any support for example internationally really. democrats in congress are no longer willing to listen. liberal democrats are no longer willing to listen to the government's claims. you have a bipartisan consensus about the importance of sanctions are standing up for universal human rights. i think although there was the close sequencing, december 17, obama announced normalization. december 17, 2014, he announces normalization talks with cuba. the day after, he signs a bill from congress which resulted in the sanctions

if the obama administration did this, it doesn't necessarily change the narrative. it's something else to be talking about but it should not take the focus off the trump administration. >> we're in a new world, ozzie, but the whole time line of last year when we think about back in the summer when donald trump invited russia to hack hillary clinton's e-mails, the conversations that were happening about trump's coziness with vladimir putin or russians and now all this other news that comes out, you take politics out of it, and the intelligence agencies confirming there was intent and interference from russia into our election, wouldn't it make sense whoever is in the white house to want to investigate whatever party is involved in this? >> when you use the phrase, shouldn't it make sense, i think you might have to put that one aside when you're dealing with why the president does some of the things that he puts out on twitter. clearly hels trying to change the narrative. he is responding to what he considers unflattering news, unfair news, and donald trump sees the wo

elizabeth: gina obama is saying the administration, the obama administration was rushing to save andtect any indication of russia's involvement in the election and the trump campaign. here's the question, why did the obama administration push to save hillary clinton e-mails when there was evidence of corruption there? >> oh that's a great question. maybe obama would come on your show and answer that question because i think it's a very fair question or maybe hillary will come on in answer that question. this is just the reality. it's a frustration is not accountable to the last administration never wanted to be accountable for the things we know actually happened like the uranium sales. they want to get into firefall stories into the narrative to convince the american people and it's no mistake liz that this came on the heels of that amazing speech by the new president donald trump this week where i think some 76% of americans felt a high approval rating up that speech. the democrats quickly wanted to change that narrative. they are trying to confuse the american public that the amer

the victim would be the angelic obama administration, the liberal progressive administration.be the victim. that's the story line they want so bad. that's the reason why the story line won't stick because it's the reverse. it's the angelic obama administration who were doing it to trump. >> dana: i just wrote down valerie plame's name here. >> greg: i couldn't read your handwriting. >> dana: i was writing upside down. >> eric: we have been at this four months or. so i'm still to this day waiting to see the substantiated direct evidence that there is any sort -- there was any sort of collusion between the two. why can't we get to this? >> lisa: we haven't. and former fbi director clapper said he hadn't seen anything. the "new york times" reported they hadn't found anything. there is still an fbi investigation. we don't have all the facts here. i do think nancy pelosi is bizarre. if you are nancy pelosi and you are of the democrats, it's in your best interest to keep the collusion part of this in the news. that's what you want people to be talking about. they don't want people t