the obama administration was on this in 2015, the department of housing and urban development under obamaued a final rule on what it called affirmatively furthering their housing. julian castro, the fair housing goal was simply to enforce the fair housing act which makes it illegal to discriminate housing sales for venting on the basis of race. again, that was on the book a long time and it's not controversial. but that law also requires local jurisdiction is to receive money to take steps to affirmatively further the goal of eliminating race discrimination in housing. this is a complex wordplay, but here's what it means. under the obama administration, one important step further. according to julian castro, the existence of "concentrated poverty and urban centers as opposed to rural centers is de facto evidence of discrimination." as long as there is a place that is poorer than where you live, where you live is racist. on the basis of that assumption, they move forward and local jurisdictions were told to eliminate single-family zoning and increase density and if they didn't comply, they

look what happened sir under the obama administration.nment accountability office said 60% failure rate for this exact same policy that joe biden oversaw. so why are we doing it again? >> this is the same playbook that didn't work before. and i appreciate the congress weighing in on this. they can fix this. under the trump administration we had the migrant protection protocols which abated a lot of surge that ended in 2019. that was an important tool given to dhs to help secure the border. congress can legislate that and mandate them to use it because this administration has shown they will not reverse the policy they took off the table. they will not go back to the way it was. therefore you send a signal out. beyond that you have all this rhetoric that says everybody that is here now will get a pathway to citizenship. the dreamers will get a pathway to citizenship. upwards of 11 million people here illegally will get a pathway to citizenship. that factors into people's calculus. that is incentive to come to the united states now because

you look at what happened under the obama administration the accountability office said it failure rater the exact same policy joe biden oversaw, why are we doing it again? >> is the same playbook that didn't work before and i appreciate the congress weighing in. they can fix this under the trump administration the migrant protection protocols which abated the surge that ended in 2019. congress could legislate that and engaging give the authority to dhs and mandate them to use it. because this administrationse is shown that they're not going to reverse the policies that they took off the table they're not going to go back to the way it was therefore you send a signaly area beyond that you have all the rhetoric this is everybody here now will get a pathway to citizenship, the dreamers will get a pathway in the upwards of 11 million people who are here illegally will get a pathway toh citizenship. that factors into people's calculus that's an incentive to come now because the way policy has been enacted and people think they will get to stay herh and many of them will, many children will.

avoid, i think, in some peoples minds and you know this better than i do to avoid what the obama administrationerceived or some people did perceived as the mistakes of the george w. bush administration in iraq and it was paradoxical about it and doing nothing to shape the political aftermath of the demise and the victory by the rebels and the obama administration exceeded the mistakes of the bush administration which under appreciated the degree to which consolidation of those gains in iraq is a necessary part of war. i think the less -- less than people are learning is the wrong one that we should not attempt to do this solid issue gains anymore but we should essentially have military strategies that are almost exclusively comprised of raids which are military operations of limited purpose and plan withdrawal but i will tell you mr. secretary i've never seen an over the horizon counterterrorism plan work and i think that's what it was in 98 and against al qaeda and did not work so i think we are deluding again about the very nature of war. >> the question one might hope would be answered befor

the obama administration, which surged, but then the best thing the obama administration did was in fact the bin laden operation to get rid of somebody who had attacked our country. i thought that was an important step. but in terms of the military operation in governing and securing afghanistan, there was no clear strategy. i think the trump administration, same thing. trying to get out of there, trying to cut a deal with the taliban. not looking at a strategy for how we will maintain some kind of stability in afghanistan. so, all of that fell on joe biden's shoulders. he said, screw it. we have been fighting this for a long time. we do not have a clear strategy. we do not have a clear way to try and make this a situation that can stabilize. so, he took the steps he did. so, i understand why he did it. what i think is important, though, is what will happen in the future. that is what we have all got to be focused on. what are we going to do in the future? are we going to repeat the mistake made in iraq and find ourselves going back in and having to go to war again? that would be a terri

i think the obama administration exceeded the mistakes the george w. bush administration did and under appreciated the degree to which consolidation of those themes in iraq is a necessary part of war. i think the lesson people are learning is the wrong one. shouldn't even attempt to do these consolidation gains. weise should essentially have military strategies that are comprised of rage, which are military operations of limited purpose short duration of plan withdrawal. but i will tell you, mr. secretary, i have never seen in over the horizon counterterrorism plan work. that's what it was in 1998 against al qaeda, it did not work. i think we are deluding ourselves about the very nature of war. >> so many of the questions one might say for the answer, appear to be unanswered. what bases are read going to use, do we have agreements in place? all of these transferring contracts for afghans, maintenance support. here we are. a lot of this still seems to be here. sec. panetta: that's a real concern. i think if the president was going to make that decision,

forces in a way that was not happening during the obama administration and they increased support for proxies. we would be better off to get back into the agreement. that was a unique coalition between u.s. and europe, but also china and russia. if that is reassembled that allows us to have unanimity of action. if you want a broader agreement, you'll have to do more than really sanctions. iran is likely willing to get into a regional security dialogue, but they would want that to include a reduction in the weapons that are pointed at them from places like saudi arabia. there ballistic programs need to be put on the table. they would expect thought the u.s. flow of weapons into gulf states would be on the table. we need to be realistic about what that would look like. the world will be safer if iran is a your away from breaking out weapons rather than three or four months from breakouts. i am in favor of going back into the agreement on a compliance basis. that is the first step in testing whether the iranians will reciprocate. that is a better playing field to litigate other security

stansbury, who previously worked in the obama administration, has backed progressive policies including medicare for all and the green new deal. and in puerto rico, unions are planning a general strike thursday in response to the privatization of the island's power system. labor leaders are demanding the cancellation of a contract with the private u.s. and canadian company luma energy, which formally took over the management of puerto rico's electric grid yesterday from prepa, which was crippled by hurricane maria. unions have warned the agreement with luma will increase the cost of electricity, displace thousands of workers, and allow the company to leave the island if a hurricane hits.

now clearly did fund it, we know that he went around the bands that were put in place by the obama administrationnd the new regulation the rules and put in place by the trump administration. on his own definition and that is just unbelievable that they have a government agency would do that enough is consequences. what is the accountability. >> is why were demanding a hearing and over 200 my colleagues in the letter to speaker nancy pelosi last week thing we need to have a hearing on this issue. then number of jurisdictions in place, slight subcommittee is one you've got the oversight committee energy and commerce, task force that initially was bipartisan and speaker nancy pelosi walked away from that. there are other committees as well that this needs to be investigated by congress and let's give more detailed answered. maybe china will give us honest answers answers. we had scientists in america who have been in communication with some of the scientists in the wuhan lab. let's get as much of their the record is mechanically have already destroyed the evidence in china, let's get whatever we can

elizabeth: china's vaccine doesn't work you talk about when the obama administration band data functionit it's for public health. that's a giant loophole that you could drive a truck through. >> exactly and that's why we need to have a good open hearing on the senate health committee and one of the things we are trying to get accomplished is what are the guardrails for viral data function research just like like once upon a time we are trying to figure out nuclear weapons and nuclear energy were we going to use it for the good of mankind or the bad side of mankind so i think we need to develop protocols. elizabeth: pelosi launches a select committee on capital capital rights but nothing on the pandemic. roger marshall it's good to see you. i'm elizabeth macdonald and you've been watching "the evening edit" on "fox business." we hope you have a great "fox business." we hope you have a great weekend and thanks so much are watching. join us again monday night. >> a classy french import... >> they tore it down, put it on a ship, sent it here. >> what? to jersey? >> new jersey, yes. >> ...st

when the executive branch power explode ploded under the obama administration -- exploded under the obama administration, we saw ridiculous rules implemented and enforced leading to rising costs in the ag industry and snuffing out economic growth on our rural main streets and in our rural communities. this attempted power grab ultimately proved why water regulations is best left to states and localities. put it simply, the biden administration's big government agenda of rural america includes higher taxes and more regulation. but this administration isn't stopping at this one-two gut punch. president biden is also looking to undermine the r.f.s. and lowering by buyo fuels blending requirements. this will hurt both crop growers and biofuel producers. two industries that are so critical to our economic activity in rural iowa. at the same time, the administration has proposed and is laughing because they are spending $174 billion on electric vehicles and charging stations. a study by biden's own department of energy found that four out of every five vehicles will still require liquid fuels b

administrations. you had a complete flip in the trump years. the biden years seem to be a return to the obama years. across all of these administrations you are seeing journalists move increasingly to their partisans. now we are seeing more of that in the country at large among the public. host: you focus on liberal media bias but i wonder your thoughts on the bias of organizations like newsmax tv and one american news? guest: they are still in the growing stages but they are additional alternatives. if they find a broad audience i think they will do very well in the future. the nature of technology these days is there is less of a barrier to entry when there are 300 to 400 channels available on cable or direct streaming than when you had an antenna on your house and you could get three or five. it is something we have a lot more competition. we will see a lot of these things stay with their niche and others rise and become major outlets. i think competition is healthy when it comes to ideas and everything else. host: texas, a republican, good morning. caller: i quit watching msnbc because joey becam

to the ukrainian military, stopping in many ways the russian incursion with the previous administration under obama being reluctant to provide any aid, or the fact that several hundred russian mercenaries were, were taken down in syria, authorized by the trump administration to take that tough stand and stop there incursion into syria, kurdistan, going after those oil fields. i think the actions speak far louder than the words. host: here's a text from alan in west virginia. one of my main concerns is that russia and china are getting from the air. we cannot even hold our own against china economically or militarily. what happens if russia and china team up? it's becoming clear that the u.s. is fading fast? guest: i'm concerned about that as well. we have seen the moscow beijing relationship really ebb and flow over the years. there are some things where they very much are aligned. you know, i'm very concerned about their increasing cooperation when it comes to space. they both have some real capabilities there. the united states is certainly no longer alone up in space. the russians and the chines

we've seen that under the obama administration too.t do you make of this failing. >> the irs was weaponized during the obama administration. there was a national grassroots movement, tea party movement. this is not nationally organized. it was happening all across the country. groups asked, applied to the irs for tax-exempt status. absolutely their right. what did the obama administration irs do? it crushed it. it slow-walked it. none of those groups got non-for profit tax-exempt status. as a result, the democrats thought oh great we crushed this tea party movement. guess what? it came back. it came back as a populist movement, anti-government, anti-big spending, populist movement and elected donald trump. these things have cycles. if the democrats think ah-ha we'll get the conservatives now, we're going to be big government, get more information on evil conservatives it will come back and bite them because in 2022 republicans take the house and senate. 2024 they will take the white house. man, where are the democrats? it could be turn

construction of this norm and there are rigorous procedures for the administration to follow inthe obama administration to comply with them . class thank you and then we will now move ahead to the trump administration and your youmay proceed . >> thanks john. i think that these norms and these contexts have been consistent across administrations and i can say from first-hand experience certainly. the department of justice and white house counsel's office take it very seriously. one thing to keep in mind is the extent to which the attorney general and department of justice are primarily responsible for enforcing these norms and it's the presidents direct authority to supervise the attorney general at the end precluding him with the advice and consent of the senate and to remove him but that authority while important is not easy and as we've seen can be politically costly. the president cannot open an investigation and the pardon power cannot propose. so is the attorney general who has the responsibility on a daily basis of making sure the department of criminal and civil decisions are made for the right

here, ho are we going to deal with news media or investigating members of congress. >> the obama administrationt investigating journalists. >> right. >> do you see based on the announce frmd from the biden administration what it is and is not going to do that the biden administration is dialing this back even further beyond what the obama administration was doing? >> well, i think the obama administration decided to pull back after they got pretty aggressive and the attorney general eric holder got aggressive and they decided to pull back then. so, yeah, i see the biden administration pulling back more now. this administration says, look, you have to have good investigative journalism. we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that the current attorney general, sensitive investigations, is still going to try to stop what they would consider to be the illegal leaking of classified information or information that they would like to keep secret otherwise. so it's not like this goes away, but the problem with using it to target your perceived enemies is that this becomes a separation of powers argument.

look, the irs was weaponized during the obama administration. a national grass roots movement, the tea party movement x. this is not nationally organized, it was happening all across the country. and groups asked -- they applied to the irs for tax-exempt status. absolutely their right. what did the obama administration if irs do? it crushed it, slow-walked it. one of those groups got tax-exempt status. as a result, the democrats thought,ul oh, great, we have jt crushed this tea party movement. but guess what? it came back, and it came back as a popular movement, anti-government, anti-big spending, pop list movement -- populist movement and elected donald trump. if the democrats think we're going to get those conservatives now, we're going to be big government, we're going to get more and more information out of those evil i conservatives, it's going to come back and bite them because in 2022 republicans are will take the house and senate, 2024 they'll take the white house, and where are the democrats? i think the wholek thing is a mess, but it's

but it has also been one of the most prestigious projects of the obama administration. and then trump, in his term, really tried everything he could to get rid of it. the republicans have always argued, it's too expensive. there should be an individual decision whether or not you want to have health insurance. the democrat, in contrast, trying to help low income families here also those who have pre existing conditions and eventually this law abroad health insurance to 31000000 americans. oliver. what reactions have there been today in washington? i guess not only from politicians, but i guess, as you say, from the millions of people who now know that they can keep their health care coverage in 1st of all, president biden who also had his hands on this law when it was crafted back in 2010 of the vice president and brock obama. he welcomed this ruling. he wants even though he wants to extend obama care further. and then of course, as you just mentioned, it's a big relief for those 31000000 americans. some of them with pre existing conditions and you have to look at the u

. >> it very well couldn't has in that passage did under obama administration is the federal government'sministration refuses to do so, the states need to step in when they are impacted and no state is more impacted than texas thank goodness for governor abbott for protecting his constituents by arresting criminal aliens for trespassing and other state f crimes. americans want to be safe and texas wants their property respected and to keep the family safe. it is good to see a state governor fight for their constituents, the biden administration isenen not. elizabeth: the supreme court with a new major ruling today that undercuts the administration catch and release of illegals at the border and they effectively said if an illegal comes back, if they return and try to cross again and claim asylum they have to be detained they have to be held in government custody,us they cannt go through catch and release to wait out the court hearing, what do you think of the impact on this ruling. >> it is important in immigrants in this country have extensive due process in multiple judges, file appeal,

it's that the obama administration already administration is going to punish leakers who aren't in the direction they want. how brandon and clapper, who are both ly misled america, and frankly use their intelligence clearance to talk about things that were patently untrue, how they are not at least ostracized, if not indicted is beyond me. but now i'm going to complain about leakers. these guys are paid leakers destroying the country, and so armina is implicit, they're not, they're not. and of course, of course, they were stations that one or both of those gentlemen may have lied on their road, but that will never be dry acadia. unfortunately, gentlemen, thank you both so much. i appreciate your time and that's it for now or thank you for joining me tonight on news news use. you could catch me on the press right here on our t america friday night at 6 30 pm eastern time. and any time you can watch this show and more on affordable tv app, download the app before well from your apple store or your android device today. the next time right here, news, news, news, news. one of the persian

obama. talking about trump's costs, initially in the first part of his administration i was on every major networkalking about it. when we were talking about obama we didn't get the same media coverage. the media is interested in the cost of the respective presidential travels, i thought that was quite interesting. obviously there were not interested in what obama was doing as much as trump. i said it about trump and i will say it about joe biden -- the cost of the presidency is too much. it costs too much for him to travel. there has got to be cheaper ways for him to do it. host: let's hear from connie on our republican line. go ahead. caller: morning, everyone. mr. fitton, first of all donald trump never did anything wrong to be impeached for. and i wanted to say about joe biden and the trip to russia, his first comment when he was asked about the assault on the white house, his comment was, a police officer was killed. that was a lie. someone interrupted him with a question. they wanted to shut him up, and it did, thank goodness. the only person killed at the white house was just, as you mentio

through the obama administration , we dealt with the obama administration and sec. lsack on a variety of issues. i think what we hate -- what we have seen from sec. vilsack and the biden administration is the recognition that the president has set environmental goals. and sec. vilsack acknowledges and supports the good work that agriculture's purdue -- agriculture's due in pursuit of those climate goals and healthy environments. there's a clear recognition because of his experience, because he knows what happens on the ground, that without cattle producers the biden administration would have a difficult time meeting these climate goals. not because we are looking at an emissions reduction, but because there is a potential for conservation across landscapes, for improving carbon storage and soil health and keeping these landscapes open and healthy and productive for wildlife and for these multiple uses. sec. vilsack has been able to hit the ground running and we have been able to appreciate the work he has done so far. we continue to have a lot of issues on our plate,

that was during the obama administration and boris johnson as he came into power. what did the president want to hear from johnson about northern ireland and peace being preserved? >> well, i think there is agreement amongst all parties we need to work towards a solution. the president wanting to adhere to the good friday agreement. i know the president and boris johnson had a conversation about this yesterday and this is something they will work out through their process. but the other big piece from yesterday was about broadly reaffirming our special relationship with uk, tackling these challenges we are facing, covid, climate crisis. amplifying and continuing to speed up the economy. a lot of the discussion with boris johnson and over the next few days with other leaders will be about what we can continue to do to accelerate recovery around the world. i know the president is looking forward to them. >> what can the g7 leaders agree on about hacking, ransomware and about not only what happens from russian soil which they have tried to deny responsibility for, but

it's better to keep that quiet, because he saw the experience of drawing red lines under the obama administration think it was actually a wise choice. we don't know everything that they said behind closed doors, but i think that they had an exchange on this. >> glenn, one area that there was agreement on was the restoring of ambassadors. so does the return of an ambassador signal a sort of restoration of relations, or was it just the easiest thing to agree on at this point? >> that's probably one of the easier things, as a show of good faith, but also an effort to keep diplomacy alive. and also, this would encompass one of the areas where they have mutual interest to have a diplomatic presence. but i would agree that the main area of conflicts, which is tearing away at relations, is this issue of human rights, simply because it's non-negotiable for both sides. for the u.s., they say well, biden said this is who we are. it's non-negotiable, it will always be on the table, and for russia, it's also unacceptable that human rights is treated as a hegemonic norm, something to promote sovereign inequal

it was passed by the obama administration in 2010 to address large gaps in health care coverage for american yeah, this is the moment former us president veronica obama announced the passage at the affordable care act. today. after all, the votes have been tally. health insurance reform becomes law in the united states of america. and since that time, american republicans have bow to repeal the act, often referred to as obamacare. this is the 3rd major attack on the health care law taken to the supreme court. and it ended the way the 1st 2 did with the majority of justices rejecting the case made for scrapping it there were some hope among the opponents of obamacare that this time would be different. mainly because the court is more conservative now that there are 3 appointees of president donald trump on it, and i mean, millions continue to suffer from obamacare. well, we're trying to support 18 republican ledger states sued over the law. conservatives have always said it is too expensive and have argued that government should stay out of health insurance choices. this time. they argue that

look, i argued for doing this in the obama administration.mmed, egyptian american. he was thrown in prison when he was protesting the coup in 2013 that removed mersi. he was tortured after being shot. he's tortured in the most gruesome ways. he goes on a hunger strike. the egyptian authorities put an isis recruiter in his prison cell. and mohamed is sitting there debating the merits of non—violent versus violent resistance with an isis recruiter. the reason this government, that we give billions to from the united states is doing that, is because they wanted to radicalise their own opposition because it justifies their suppression, and that's what needs to change. the united states should not be given military assistance to governments like egypt. the united states and the united kingdom should not be selling arms to a government of mohammed bin salman in saudi arabia. i do think this has to change. you're right, and as someone who's been in power, i'm trying to speak more honestly and openly in ways i think its past time we do. how can the u

case, and the white house counsel has a significant role in that and certainly did in the obama administration. i don't know to what extent the same organizational structure was adopted in the trump administration. i suspect something like that very much so is taking place in the biden administration. but in one take your case we had a lawyer, although in the department who thought all of the other agencies and departments with equities in the matter were catastrophically wrong, and demanded essentially at the white house organized and beating so that he could make his case more successfully to people who just simply didn't understand issues as well as he did and were headed in the wrong direction. i invited him to lunch at the white house with two messages, which was, number one, i would be happy to broker such a meeting and i thought that discussion tickler views held a very strong. but number two, , i did that wanted to open the conversation by telling everybody in the room, senior lawyers like himself, how to get their work. i thought that wasn't going to be helpful. the email traffic was

obama. it's interesting when we were talking about trump's costs initially in the first part of his administration i was on, i think, every major network talking about it, but when we were talking about obama we didn't get the same sort of media coverage so the media is interested in the cost of the respective presidential travels i thought was quite interesting. obviously they weren't interested in what obama was doing as much as trump. i said this about obama, i said it about trump and i will say it about biden. the cost of the presidency is too much, it costs too much to travel, for him to travel, there's got to be cheaper ways to do it than protect the national security and their personal safety. >> let's hear from connie on our republican line in illinois. go ahead. >> good morning, everyone. mr. fitten -- >> yes. >> -- first of all, donald trump never did anything wrong to be impeached for, and i want to say about joe biden and the trip to russia, his first comment when he was asked about the assault on the white house, his comment was a police officer was killed. that was a lie. someone int

it is what the obama administration should have done.s what republicans didn't do appear they have tax cuts so one of these parties is going to have to take on immigration. they absolutely have to. the vice president, it doesn't have to be a total staged visit. she can go there and actually do work. she can sit down and roll up her sleeves and take on the difficult task. for some reason, the story has completely gotten away from her. >> lawrence: she didn't want the job. >> kennedy: went the narrative keeps going, you have to change the narrative. her getting defensive at the press, that is not changing. law enforcement is different in texas and i wouldn't be surprised if the governor starts giving ranchers kits to build partitions. you can't call it a wall but something else. >> greg: ordering parts of the wall from amazon. [laughter] >> lawrence: parts of the wall just sitting there. >> greg: oregon, talking about the borders, police should start wallowing in some states, right? >> lawrence: we have to go, crime surges in the cities an

added 51000 pages the federal register which sounds like a lot except the last year of the obama administration was 95000 pages added to the federal register and in fact, the first year the trump administrative added fewer to the register, in any administration dating back to 1993 so the scope is massive so there are several pieces of this and in the first section of my book, i engage with the rule making apparatus self and it's important to distinguish between what i call the rule makers and the enforcers because sometimes we have implicit rulemaking going on at the federal level without real rulemaking itself and we will get to that in a minute in this early executive orders, the old guidances letter strategy the obama administration engaged in in the latter part of this term but i categorize these as simply legislating without congress administrating without the executives judging without judiciary and we see all three of these things coming into play which is why we get these sort of unaccountable administrative agencies writing the rules and it's important to understand the constitutional

andy slavitt did not expect to return to government after serving in the obama administration but heirus pandemic and when president biden asked him to serve as a white house senior adviser on covid-19 andy slavitt agreed to go back into government service to make sure the vaccination program succeeded. here is what andy slavitt said in his first appearance on this program as an adviser to president biden. >> by the time we get to summer, to independence day, we'll be in a situation where many of the things in our lives, not all of them, but many things we cherish so much namely spending time with one another, we'll have that back. >> and joining us now for his exit interview of sorts from the biden administration is andy slavitt white house senior adviser for covid response. we always knew this was a temporary appointment you were going into basically trying to wrestle this vaccination program in this first quarter of the year, first half of the year in dealing with the covid pandemic. where do you think we are tonight? >> well, thank you for having me. it has certainly been a great

andy slavitt did not expect to return to government after serving in the obama administration.rus pandemic. and when president biden asked him to serve as a white house senior adviser in covid-19, andy slavitt agreed to go back into government service to make sure that the vaccination program succeeded. here is what andy slavitt said in his first appearance on this program as an adviser to president biden. >> by the time we get to the summer, by the time we get to independence day, we are going to be in a situation where many of the things that our lives, many of the things that we cherish, in the time spent with one another. we are going to have that back. >> and joining us now for his exit interview of sorts from the biden administration is andy slavitt, white house senior adviser for covid response. and andy, we always knew that this was a temporary appointment, that you are going into basically try to wrestle this vaccination program and this first quarter of the year, first half of the year in dealing with the covid pandemic. where do you think we are tonight? >> well, tha

added 61,000 pages to the federal register which sounds like a lot except the last year of the obama administration was 95,000 pages added to the federal register and in fact the first year of the trump administration added fewer pages to the federal register and any year in an administration eating back to 1993, the first year of the billclinton administration . the scope of this is just. but there really sort of a little bit several pieces of this. in the first section of my book as i engage with the rulemaking apparatus itself. i think it's important to distinguish between what i call the rule makers and then the enforcers sbecause sometimes you have implicit rulemaking agoing on at the federal government level without real rulemaking itself and we will get to that in a minute, some of the conclusions of these by the administration early executive orders which are sort of svenear durations on th old guidance letter strategy that the obama administration engaged in in the latter part of its eight-year term. i categorized these as simply legislating without congress, administrating without the exe

but obama was one of the worst. his administration had targeting journalists and prosecuting leaders. you know, and by the way, we still have the snowden fiasco. we still have no leadership on a song in this country from both parties. so joe barton didn't have to know he could just signal to his people to keep doing the stuff they're doing. and i'm sure they'll continue it whether they deny it now or not. hi, robert, whether or not by new is kind of ancillary to an extent what, what's your take? let's get back to the crux of the story and the government. going after journalist they, you know, it's supposedly it was all part of a leak investigation, something to do with the way that the former f b i, director handled the way he investigated hillary clinton. you know, it's kind of blurry to an extent. but are there any circumstances in your mind, robert, where the, the government can clamp down on journalists, or should clamp down on journalists? absolutely not. i think this is the point where we have to have some bipartisan agreement a

he served as deputy national security advisor during the obama administration. he's also author of the new book "after the fall: being american in the world we've made." it's great to see you, as always, especially on a day when president biden is headed to guatemala. it was then-vice president biden who committed u.s. aid to the region. since then the problems have only persisted. what can the white house do differently this time, especially when it comes to u.s. aid money, to have a different or more useful result? >> geoff, i think you have to recognize this is a long-term solution. you're not going to fix this in one visit or one year in terms of addressing root causes. you have to stick with it for several years. part of what happened is the resurgence in central america in 2018 when we had the wave of una expected children and trump came through and zeroed that out. what it takes is an approach where you're trying to devise a system. one way is to recall that they're trying to make people's lives better. you not only need messages from vice president harri

it is not any particular demonstration prayed the trump and obama administration did it. it is not surprising the biden administration is trying to do the same thing. it is about the federal government not liking the fact that things get leaked to reporters and there is a fine line between what we are allowed to access as members of the press and employees who leak the data. what's of a response ability is there and that is why you see the tension between the biden administration and the press that i think it is important fred ryan was speaking out on. we need to take a stand against this stuff. host: we will conclude on that note. susan ferrechio, chief federal >> secretary of state antony blinken discusses the 2022 budget request this afternoon before a house appropriations subcommittee. watch live beginning at 2:30 p.m. eastern on c-span, online at c-span.org, or listen free on the c-span radio app. >> rational security advisor jake sullivan joined today's white house briefing, answering a number of questions. here is what he had to say. >> today, we are fortunate to h

and in 2014, the obama administration gave $750000000.00 to address the root causes of migration and the northern triangle. in 2019 that aid was frozen by donald trump. and now president joe biden wants to increase it to $4000000000.00. let's now see to william laurence is a professor for international relations at the american university. he's joining us from washington. thanks for your time with us on al jazeera so, couple of harrison's press secretary has said that she is picking up where the ben vice president joe biden left off when he himself worked on this portfolio under the obama administration. but how do you think this time is this time and far going to be different than the attempt by previous us administrations and what's your sense of what we can actually expect from district? well, let me say that these problems are long term structural problems that take years to solve, but it's much better to do something out of your excellent report indicated them to not do something. and so it's great that kind of harris and president biden has negotiated this new package of assist