and try 3d white toothpaste and rinse. >> whether it is obama care or perry care.ppose any governor for president that man dates the family health care choices and in terms violates the rights of parents on this issue especially as the decision-making process occurs behind closed doors. bypassing legislative action and instead favors campaign contractors over the rights of families. >> welcome back, everybody. the are off and the tough talk has begun. that was gop hope . michelle bachmann going after one of the perceived front runners rick perry and joining me is texas attorney general greg abbott. thank you for joining us. >> guest: > there were reports that governor perry wanted man date vaccinations for middle age girls and expressed your feeling that is he exceeded his authority. even though the governor should have handled the issue differently he linked it to a moral conviction. do you hear this view? >> guest: the issue at the time was an issue of process. what was not questioned and agreed upon is the sanctity of life. it is the

they all want to appeal what they're calling obama care but what is the alternative you know of? what happens to all of the uninsured americans if the republicans are successful in overturning president obama's health care reform? >> hey, listen, it makes for great politics, right? but the fact of the matter is, the country without health care reform, whether you like it or not, we need it to reform the existing system. you can't allow a country of our size to have 50 million uninsured americans. it's dangerous for the economy, and it's dangerous for individuals who really need the health insurance in this country, so we actually must get some more specific and concrete answers out of these republican candidates to actually tell us what they're going to do. consumers need to be able to have that level protection, americans need that level of protection and understanding and we're not getting it. as a health care executive, hospitals, doctors, we need to plan for the future. we need to know what health care in this country is going to look like, and right now we don't have any answ

>> i'd get rid of obama care, day one. we've got to get out of obama care.hat i would put in place a bill allowing individuals to own their own insurance and make sure existing condition problem is eliminated by saying to insurers you can't deny coverage to someone who has been covered in the past. >> sean: when you see the frank luntz focus group think you're going to be happy. >> thank you. >> sean: coming up next, live in or lano florida coming up next, minnesota congress woman michelle bachmann, we'll check in with much more as we continue from orlando, tonight. at exxon and mobil, we engineer smart gasoline that works at the molecular level to help your engine run more smoothly by helping remove deposits and cleaning up intake valves. so when you fill up at an exxon or mobil station, you can rest assured we help your engine run more smoothly while leaving behind cleaner emissions. it's how we make gasoline work harder for you. exxon and mobil. [ cellphone rings ] cut! [ monica ] i have a small part in a big movie. i thought we'd be on location for 3 day

have a candidate who is right on obama care.ho is fought against obama care, who gets it that it's a job killer. and who gets that its stolen 500 billion out of medicare. and who gets the job killing aspect. ubs this week said that the number one reason we are not seeing employers hire people is because of obama care. i get that. we can't get rid of obama care with an executive order or waiver. it will never happen, you have to pull it out root and branch. otherwise we will have socialized medicine in this nation forever. you see 2012 is it. this is our only chance to get rid of this bill. or otherwise it will so metacitize into the united states fabric, we will never get rid of it again. . . that is what we need. it is not ashamed of a tea party. who is willing to stand up for the tea party. and believes we tax enough. if there is ever been a time where we do not settle we conservatives have to say no. this is our time. oure going to have nominees. let's take this movement of the way to 1600 pennsylvania ave. we can have it all

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and earlier this summer, with the passage of obama care, president obama rules in a stunning level of power grab that he would order every private insurance company in this country to provide the morning after abortion pill free of charge to anyone who wanted that pill. this, in my opinion, is something we should not settle for in our country. [applause] we need to stand up to obama care -- we need to stand up to the government takeover not only of 1/6 of our economy and obama care, we need to stand up to the federal government taking over private companies like automobile company. that needs to come to an end. we cannot settle for the federal government taking over private industry. we cannot settle for the federal government taking over the banking industry, the insurance industry with bills like dodd- frank. we cannot settle and we can't settle either when it comes to standing up for america's greatest ally and our neighbor in the world, israel. we must stand with israel. [laughter] [applause] = =[applause] this is in the election all elections when we have the opportunity to turn

here's what my governor said, the obama care medicaid expansion is a disaster for south carolina's budget with an opt-out provision which senator barrasso and myself proposed. did you have a voe in this health care debate? remember i was on the night before i was passed. i saw the bill a few hours before. remember that? >> greta: i do. >> no one has had a say in the country about obama health care. all done in this building behind closed doors. what senator barrasso and i have said, state like texas it could cost 24 billion dollars of new money to match the expansion. the state has to put dollars on the table to get federal government medicaid dollars. in my state one billion dollars will be required for to come up with this the next decade to get federal medicaid money. >> greta: you want to opt-out. here's the problem everybody being this is contributing to lower the cost if you opt-out. plus the problem that the press due to hhs has issued thousands of waivers. there will leave five us of -- of us left standing paying for it. >> when you ask employers what is the biggest impediment to

the candidates took president obama to task tonight on everything from jobs to health care. >> i'm notorried about governor perry and governor romney frightening the american people, when president obama scares them every single day. >> it's unconstitutional. whether it's the state government or whether it's the federal government, the only way to eradicate obama care is to pull it out by the root and branch to fully repeal it. >> this president does not understand how to free up the small businessmen and women or for that matter wall street. >> what the president did was simply wrong, it is the wrong course for america. >> some people say that barack obama's economy is' disaster. my feeling is, it would have to make a dramatic improvement just to be a disaster. >> the chair of the democratic national committee, debbie wasserman-shultz joins us live from tampa. you heard the attacks on the president. the majority of americans disapprove of how the president is handling the economy. is 2012 becoming an increasingly difficult race for democrats, do you think? >> well, anyone listening to

he needs to stand up and say we're going to repeal obama- care. ( applause ) we're going to repeal dodd frank. ( applause ) and we're going to stop the epa from going forward with any of the regulations they've got. >> woodruff: but perry and romney are also drawing a bead on each other. ahead of wednesday's candidate debate in california, perry is going after romney's record of job creation while governor of massachusetts. >> there is no one going to be sitting on that stage who has the record of job creation that i have. there's going to be some that are going to get up and say, well, i've created jobs. that's true. you know, there is one in particular particular that's created jobs all over the world. but while he was the governor of massachusetts he didn't create very many jobs.

it d to repeal obama-care. as president of the united states i will repeal obama-care. bill: a tax buried in that overhaul will take away 43,000 high-paying jobs in america. dr. marc siegel parts of our fox "a" team. it's a 2.3 excise tax on medical devices. what's the claim here. >> that industry has 409,000 jobs. the report is saying it will lead to the lost of 43,000 jobs from 2013 to 2019 because the manufacturers will end up with a tax that's almost double what they have now. one of the highest corporate taxes anywhere in the world. the report believes they will end up shipping jobs overseas to foreign countries. just what we need. by the way, this is a great thing to be talking about today with the jobs speech coming up tonight. but also medical devices are at the heart of the problem because they are ever change. when obama-care make these claims they want some say what treatment is the best. a saves lives. what help you. the problem is medical devices are always changes. bill: is that a pacemaker, a stent. >> it's all kinds of the catheters -- bill: why are they

your economic adviser talked about romney care and how that was an absolute bust and exactly what obama care was all about. you said it was what the american people needed to have that romney care given to them as you head had in massachusetts, then in your paper back, you took that line out. so speaking of not getting it straight in your book, sir that would be a good one for you. >> one of the most unique features of tonight's debate was the ninth man on the stage, former new mexico governor gary johnson's poll numbers so minuscule, he has not been included in previous debates. >> i do bring a unique perspective for this stage. i started a one-man handyman business in albaer can chill 1974 and grew it to over 1,000 employ yishlgs i have run for two political offices in my life, governor of new mexico and re-election. i promise to submit a balanced budget to congress in the year 2013. i promise to veto legislation where expenditures exceed revenue. >> our cnn political correspondent jim acosta is in orlando for us tonight. you know, i'm of the so thrown by the audience reaction and i know i

you all across america that would just have a sigh of relief for businesses because obama-care quite literally is killing jobs all across the country even today. >> schieffer: all right. let me just play for you something because you guaranteed something that really set people back on their heels last week i think it was in south carolina. here's what you said. here's what you guaranteed under a bachmann administration. >> the day that the president became president gasoline was $1.79 a gallon. look at what it is today. under president bachmann, you will see gasoline come down below $2 a gallon again. that will happen. >> schieffer: congresswoman, i think that's a great idea. i think everybody hopes it. but who would you propose to do that? >> by embarking on an all of the above energy strategy. what the president has been doing is strangling the united states energy sector. the good news is, bob, that many americans still don't know is that the united states is the number one energy resource rich nation in the world. we have 25% of all the coal in the world. one of the largest natur

care. why isn't rick perry pointing to obama administration officials who cite romney care as a template for care. >> paul: dorothy, we've seen him for an hour or more, is this the same rick perry that we've seen in the meetings? >> magically, you've touched on the exact point. the trouble with rick perry in public he's not the rick perry that we see in private. the rick perry we see with that aggie ring standing there, a military man, is one tough customer, the first impression you get is, not only does he look tough, he is tough. what happens when you put him in the public arena, he becomes an inhibited person, suppressing all of that arrogance because he he thinks that it wasn't necessary and this makes him constricted performance. >> paul: overhandled by the political advisors stuffing him with this or that. >> possibly. you can't conceal who you really are and here he is, being this nice guy, smiling over these assaults on him. whereas when you confront him at some, across some table, you don't want a fight with this guy. >> what about mitt romney? he certainly is practiced as jason say

obama care. the individual mandate that is unconstitutional and currently is contained in obama care. i think another action that people see is unconstitutional are the appointment of czars to speak to the united states president. because that's by passing congress and going directly to the president. here's something else. the president of the united states took an oath to faithfully execute the laws of the united states, but the president has also stated that he sees that the law of the defense of marriage act is unconstitution unconstitutional. he's said that he will not uphold that law. he has also said he will not uphold current deportation laws applying to illegal aliens. these are areas where we see unconstitutionality. within the spending that we're seeing with the federal government, the federal government is spending far in excess of what it takes in. areas of government would include, for instance, i believe, the department of education. because the constitution does not specifically e

>> obama care is killing jobs. >> this country has a bright future. our president doesn't understand how the economy works. >> don't forget, the day that president obama took office gasoline was $1.79 a gallon. >> john king, gloria borger, paul begala and eric ericson, john. we heard bachmann, her response to the president. she said she wasn't there to answer question bz the campaign, that she was there as a member of congress. do you buy that? >> sure. i buy it serves her purposes tonight. she doesn't want to answer question bz a staff shake-up, answer questions about whether she was overshadowed in the debate last night. she wants to take direct aim at the president of the united states and hopes she gets some attention for that. the fact we're talking about it maybe says she succeeded. what is most interesting about it is one would expect the candidates running against president obama to draw sharp contrast on just about everything. but michele bachmann who is often out of step with her own republican leadership, listen to what she said. she said,

this is one of the reasons i believe a lot of people are objecting to obama care. >> bill: that kind of vivid personal account brings home a big problem with the feds running so many programs vital to americans. talking points believes the united states is in desperate need of strong, fair leadership. it's one of the reasons i wrote my new book "killing lincoln" which i willell you about on monday. abraham lincoln was the gold standard of leadership for this country. his personal sacrifice dealing with the worst crisis america has ever faceside what we need for today. politicians not looking out to themselves. not wedded to an ideology but wig to do economic things for the good of all americans. simply put, the economy has got to get fixed. the debt has got to go down. the federal government has got to recede it can't run everything. private enterprise has to be stimulated. and, above all, americans have to regain hope that the u.s.a. is indeed a place of opportunity, fairness, and sanity. and that's the memo. next on the run down, charles krauthammer will analyze the debate last nig

including what they called obama care. >> a massive intrusion. so what we got to do is repeal obama care. >> five candidates, each had 20 minutes. newt gingrich said today he believes the economy is in danger of getting worse. michele bachmann called for corporate tax cuts. >> i think we could bring it down to 20% and as president i would put a moratorium on the implementation of obama care just as the president did last friday on epa rules as well. >> ron paul and herman cain also appeared today. >>> texas governor rick perry was supposed to speak but he returned home because of the deadly wildfires raging throughout his state. >> just keep those folks in your prayers, if you will, as we go back and try to get people out of harm's way and get our state -- pray for rain. as well. >> coming up, at 5:15, how many lives have been loss, the evacuations and the number of homes that have already been destroyed. >>> forging on since flooding. one business' owners attempt to boost sales and why this is important for one beach side community. >>> a pleasa

, obama care, romney care. the debates have been intense. right about this time in the cycle in 2007 you had the july youtube debate. that's when things elevated. barack obama was asked if he'd sit todown and negotiate with leaders in iran. hillary clinton stepped that up. there was a question of whether they could come together. she's the secretary of state now. the democrats should not get excited about this. one of the other things that happened in 2008 was the whole nation was captivated by that democratic primary fight, particularly because it lasted so long but also because it was so interesting in dynamic and had a lot of fireworks. the more the nation is engaged in getting to know these republican candidates, that's not necessarily that great for barack obama when he's trying to get out there and get his message across. i think it's definitely going to be an interesting few months. >> jonathan, we saw in that last democratic version of this with barack obama and hillary clinton that the primary process strengthened barack obama as a p

that's not acceptable when it comes -- >> when you say repealing obama care, they say it would save jobs. >> oh, really? well, i find that interesting. what repealing healthcare reform o do, especially to seniors in florida, is it would eliminate the closure of the doughnut hole. it would cost seniors about $3,000 in more -- in additional prescription drug costs. it would get rid of the wellness visit that's now free. it would get rid of preventative screenings that don't have co-pays. so the list goes on. it would leave people with preexisting conditions like i have twisting in the wind because insurance companies could drop us or deny us coverage again. the republicans demonstrated how out of touch they are. then at the end for more good pressure when ron paul was asked a question about whether or not a 30-year-old without healthcare coverage, if he was sick for six months should be allowed to die, people in the audience from tea partiers yelled out, yes. that's how out of touch this crew is. >> michele bachmann said tonight that president obama, quote, stole over $500 billion out of m

let me tell you, i have no problem with folks saying obama cares. i do care. >> stephen: nice try, mr. president. (laughter) folks, you can see the game he's playing here. he broke up the word obamacare into obama and care. that's not where that word came from the etymology of obamacare is actually oh, be bam! a car! eee! (applause) check your dictionary, it's in there. this indicates that the program is like a buick that hits you in the crosswalk and then drags you to see a government doctor who replaces your lung with a muffler. look it up. the point is, folks, in politics messaging is everything something i learned from colbert super pac's two recent commercial blitz for rick perry. they cost a lot of money, folks. ad time in des moines does not come cheap. plus we blew a ton of cash hiring andy serkis to play the corn cob. (laughter) and i promise you, we are going to keep the ads coming because two weeks ago i got asked what the colbert super pac stands for and i wanted to ask you, the super nation, to tell us what we stand for as colbertsuperpa

>> obama care is killing jobs. >> this country has a bright future.e economy works. >> don't forget, the day that president obama took office gasoline was $1.79 a gallon. >> with us again, john king, host of "general king usa," chief political an xwlialyst go borger, democratic strategist paul begala and eric ericson. we heard bachmann, her response to the president. she said she wasn't there to answer questions about the campaign, that she was there as a member of congress. did you by that? >> sure. i buy it serves her purposes tonight. she doesn't want to answer questions about a staff shakeup, answer questions about whether she was overshadowed in the debate last night. she wants to take direct aim at the president of the united states and hopes she gets some attention for that. the fact we're talking about it maybe says she succeeded. what is most interesting about it is one would expect the candidates running against president obama to draw sharp contrast on just about everything. but michele bachmann who is often out of step with her own republi

put obama care in on national level with obama? even a come'. >> bill: the republican brew ha harassment did romney know who you are, the sage of southern california? does he know. >> sure he did. he said you take the bullet for o'reilly, right? >> bill: did he? , okay. the government, okay. >> no. listen. >> bill: some of these guys have no idea who we are. >> no, he does, billy. i told him, you know, i told him that we were going to do some gigs together. maybe we could get him to come. here is the thing about him. he is -- the people say he is a flip flopper. guess what? obama is a flop flopper. he did choose the wrong thing and it's not working and he is never going to change. all i ask is of somebody if they gang it flip and try the other thing. obama is not going to try the other thing. >> bill: good point. jesse watters and maxine waters reunited and feels so good. jesse didn't get a lot out of here you say. >> still waters runs deep shill waters runs away. she looks cute. she is a little freaked out by jesse. he should have

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>> well, what perry sought to do was tie what he called obama care to romney care.t point repeatedly, talking about how the one ting that romney's initiative proved was that an individual mandate was not what this country needed. still, he was taken to task by at least three of the candidates for his support of an hpv vaccination for young girls and he stood by it. >> just getting started. seven more debates set before the end of the year. >> fasten your seat belts. >>> our coverage of the debate does not end here. we'll bring you the latest insight and reaction later today on "america did morning" and also on good morning america. >>>>meanwhile, parts of the east coast are still getting swamped by torrential downpours left over from tropical storm lee. more than 10 inches of rain fell in several counties across pennsylvania and it ain't over yet. flood waters rushed through a mobile home community where dozens of residents were evacuated and many who stayed had to be rescued, as you can see there, by boat. >> boats through the streets. >>> let's get the latest on t

all of the candidates are critical of the obama health care plan. for one of them, the former massachusetts governor, mitt romney, this is, as you know, a significant challenge with conservative voters because of his state plan in massachusetts. listen first to congresswoman bachmann who describes repealing the president's health care plan as in her view the defining issue of 2012. >> this is an issue that must be solved in 2012 because i believe that obama care will so metastasize itself into every part of american life we will never get rid of it again and this is the foundation for socialized medicine. make no mistake about it. it will change the face of this nation forever. >> now, congresswoman bachmann said that she believes the constitution prohibits the constitution prohibits even the states from adopting an individual mandate like senator demint, governor romney has in his plan in massachusetts. yes romney in response to a question you asked him said he relishes a chance to contrast his approach with that of the president. >> the critical t

obama. you have linked him so much with this health care. can you now say that he's your candidate when you said this was so important? >> i talked to mitt and he shared with me directly as he has repeatedly with the nation that he's absolutely committed to repealing obama care. on day one when he's in office he will issue an executive order to allow states to opt-out. [ talking over each other ] >> greta: he said that stuff before you got out of race and you didn't buy it then. >> i believe fully with my heart, mitt romney is good to his word saying he will repeal obama care. for most republican primary voters that's a very important commitment and he has made it. i've talked to him about it directly. >> greta: if the republicans are saying he still defends health care in massachusetts. >> we agree on this, mitt and i agree each state can try their own thing. pass mass tried its own way. he agrees and i agree it is the -- wrong program, wrong direction for the country and he's committed to repealing it. beyond that you look at that debate l

care reform? let's listen. >> the signature issue of barack obama and his presidency has been the passage of obama care. this week a study cape out from ubs that said the number one reason why employers aren't hiring is because of obama care. >> so do we know, true or not? >> well, true or not? well, this is a kind of tricky thing. think about what she said, this company ubs. ubs is an investment company, a global financial services firm, and that does not seem to have risen to the lel of being a study. it was more of an assessment for investors where they did mention obama care as being sort of a prime concern, but they've previously put out information that said there are a lot of concerns in our economy right now. so for her to sort of depict it as the great job killer in america is obama care, sort of ignores everything else out there affecting our job market some of which she could argue is the president's fault. she's suggesting obama care is the big, big factor. we're going to say that's at very best true but incomplete. we had all of our great truth squad folks in their fortress of solid w

romney said he was for -- uh, against obama care, but what about mitt romney? s before he was before? >> uh-oh. >> was it was, he was before. >> rick perry getting it from all sides. i'm don lemon. i'll see you back here at 10:00 p.m. eastern. >>> the president wants jobs, the republicans want the white house, and shaping the fight on both sides are the economic ideas of a congressman from wisconsin. how paul ryan became revered, reviled, and what he wants next. >>> the real wire. a no-nonsense baltimore police chief cracks down on violent crime, but here's the twist. he wants fewer arrests. >>> driving while blind. at a university in the virginia hills, researchers say a miracle in the making. >>> and simon says he can do it. what? that you'll have to see to believe. >>> stories that make the headlines matter, all on "stories: reporter." welcome, i'm tom foreman. here in washington, where it sometimes seems like everyone is running for president, congressman paul ryan made headlines for saying he will not. ryan is the 41-year-old chairman of the house budget co

it's not obama care. we had ours in place before obama had his. four years before. massachusetts health care is the most expensive in the nation. and it was before our bill and it was after. >> as you can see when mitt romney has to defend that health care to republican and conservative audiences, he has a hard time with it. one thing he is clearly made the decision to do, though, is own it. all right. republicans weren't exactly dismissing the president's job plan. that is until they heard he wanted new taxes to help pay for it. today it's house speaker john boehner's turn to lay out his party's prescription to get the economy back on track. kelly o'donnell is nbc news capitol hill correspondent. in the previews we've seen of boehner's speech, there certainly no talk of putting any money into the economy from the government. >> definitely not. i think when you talk about how the initial reaction to the president's plan as presented to congress, there was that sort of warmer tone. well, now things have sort of shifted, in part because the president's plan for paying

obama care is clearly leading to job killing regulations, not job relating regulations. >> the fact president obama doesn't come to the reagan library to try to figure out how to create jobs, doesn't talk to any of these three governors to learn how to create jobs, doesn't talk to herman cane to learn how to create jobs, this president is so committed to class warfare and bureaucratic socialism he can't be effective in jobs. >> there's eight of us up here. i'm a physician. you sure weren't going to ask me any medical question. i'd like to address that just a little bit. first off, you know, the governor of texas criticized the governor of massachusetts for romney care. he wrote a really fancy letter supporting hillary care. so we probably ought to ask him about that. >> i kind of feel like the pinata here at the party. >> joining us now, senior political analyst david gergen. cornell bullcher and erick ericks erickson. who came out on top on all this? >> romney and perry. it's a two-man race now. perry sctumbled. he wasn't comfortable with the format. mitt romney has been in this since 2007.

he's for obama care and now he's against it. >> reporter: except that romney has never supported the nts for contenders trying to break through on foreign policy, jon huntsman. >> only pakistan can say pakistan. only afghanistan can say afghanistan. all that i want right now at this point in history is for america to save america. >> reporter: on the economy, probably the line of the night from former new mexico governor, perry johnson. >> my neighbors dogs have created more jobs. >> reporter: another defining moment didn't come from the stage, but from a handful of people in the audience who booed a gay soldier for asking the candidates on their views on homosexuals in the military. >> do you intend to circumvent the progress that was made for gay and lesbians serving in the military? >> it's unclear if this race has come down to rick perry versus mitt romney. whether any of the abuse the texas governor took last night actually changed this debate. florida republicans will have their say later on this weekend when they hold an informal, nonbinding straw poll on the state of the race.

cadillac to 13 more like mine did titanium's find senators who will go with me and also repeal obama-careo all across the country. i will raise money for them. i will do whatever it takes to make sure they are elected. we must have a filibuster-proof senate and that is the magic number that we need to get 13 more senators. >> watch both speeches tomorrow night at 9:30 on c-span. >> the george w. bush is to do it held a two-day global help some of this week. george w. bush opened the session. following his remarks, former secretary of state condoleezza rice delivered the keynote address. she highlighted u.s. commitment to global help, including programs enacted during the bush administration. this is about 20 minutes. >> one of the greatest secretary of state's ever. she understands that in order to heal human suffering, america must lead. that means the congress must lead. that means that corporate america must lead. must lead.that ngo's that is what this conference is really setting. we understand the obligations and the call. somebody understands that as well as anybody is our dear frie

we're all talks about obama care, obama care. 20 years from now, we're going to say, why did we do that? this is a mess. it's broken. this is the exact same thing. >> you're a guy who cuts ads. if governor perry is the nominee of the republican party, and one of the reasons people in our poll, republican voters have elevated him is they believe he is the most electable candidate. they believe he is the strongest candidate to go up against president obama, as a consultant. if you were cutting ads for the democrats, not republicans, does that quote, is that quote potentially a disqualifying, good-bye, florida, good-bye, pennsylvania, good-bye, iowa, good-bye, arizona, good-bye states with significant senior populations? >> if rick perry is the nominee, you can count on seeing that quote in an ad. and the other night in a debate, when he came out of the box, rick perry implied if he could go back 70 years and undo it, he would. those are the issues he's going to have to deal with. and what it does is it takes a spotlight off of the big advantage republicans have running against barack obam

it will not change the decisions that people make because they are afraid of obama care. will not grow and expand their business if they are concerned about the hitting of taxes and regulations and the concerns are a valid one. lifting those regulations and with dramatic tax changes as well. >> what regulations need to be lifted immediately to get small businesses back on track? >> guest: the romney plan, day one. waiver to all 50 states of of obama care and doddra frank needs to go and we need a balanced budge and can't impose regulations that kill jobs . we have to stop . governor romney's plan to stop restricting the reduction of energy in the country. this next recovery can be energy led if we get the resources that we have. oil, and natural gas and coil like other countries are doing. >> thank you, jim. we have had a lot of breaking news, we will check back with you to see how things are going. >> guest: it is a day it remember. thank you for having me. >> when we come back, this weekend brings back memories for the families who lost loved ones in the 9/11 attack inc