for what is the obama economy, it is lack of providing jobs and opportunities for people. >> no, it is the same group -- america saw the picture of the governor of new jersey and president of united states walking down the beach trying to figure out, how are we going to fix this community after the terrible storm? what is what american people want. but the same smal -- small grouf republicans they tear the governor a new one saying you can't work with that guy, it is our way or the highway. chris christie was doing what he was supposed to do to work with democrats. >> well,. charles: listen, i don't want to get too far off of the topic, i don't see anybody at the white house rolling out the red carp carpet. robert, 10 days after this whole thing began. robert here is the thing, do we %-someone being victimized?about you know, when someone else is successful does that mean they take food out of someone else's mouth? can we be honest about fashion there is not a static pie that grows, and more success? >> that is not the premise. everybody has different strengths and weaknesses and benef

what hurts the economy is the shutdown and the default. it is obama bad-mouthing the economy, scaring the markets. always pitting people against each other. that hurts the economy. and his policies are killing the economy. overtaxing, overspending. believe in manager. believe in its founding principles and let's restore growth. believe in the people and what they can do. >> that's a the loe. a big grab bag of things. i just -- the president doesn't demonize well. he thinks that, he thinks that business is good, that growth is good and has grown this economy in a way that i don't think that was obvious when he came into office. >> that's like saying white is whack, black is white. >> more people have jobs than when he took office. is growing is growing, not shrinking. >> those are just facts. >> we don't have any kind of robust growth. it is anemic growth. just by the population increases. this, we have got egregious unemployment. sustain egregious unemployment rates and more people leaving the work force than ever before. this is a scary time of i thi

. >> who are the people getting hammered by the obama economy? it's the most vulnerable among us. >> reporter: ten democratic senators, many up for re-election, now say the enrollment deadline should be delayed. on friday jeffrey zeinst who was put in charge of fixing the site for the first time gave a date for when the technical problems will be resolved. >> by the end of november healthcare.gov will work smoothly for the vast majority of users. >> reporter: that could create a crunch for hundreds of thousands whose coverage are will end and who received letters warning, you will no longer be eligible for your current plan of coverage. that's happening because those plans don't meet the new federal standards. >> a lot of inadequate health insurance plans that don't cover maternity care or have a very low dollar limit on them are inadequate. >> reporter: the obama administration has been encouraging people to sign up over the phone and in person. even that's been difficult say folks at this clinic in new jersey. you haven't been able to enroll a

it is the reality of the obama economy, the new normal. trillions upon trillions and janet yellen will not stop it because john stosssl is not happy about this. here he comes. he will wheelbarrow full of money, not real, presumably, not when i am around. watch out. you don't want to show it to me. when we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals: help the gulf recover and learn from what happened so we could be a better, safer energy company. i can tell you - safety is at the heart of everything we do. we've added cutting-edge technology, like a new deepwater well cap and a state-of-the-art monitoring center, whe experts watch over all drilling activity twenty-four-seven. and we're sharing what we've learned, so we can all produce energy more safely. our commitment has never been stronger. ido more with less with buss energy.hp is help. soon, the world's most intelligent servers, designed by hp, will give ups over twice the performance, using forty percent less energy. multiply that across over a thousand locations, and they'l

what hurts the economy is obama bad mouthing the economy, bad mouthing -- demonizing wealth.pitting people against each other. that hurts the economy. and his policies are killing the economy. overregulation, overtaxing, overspending. let the market breathe. believe in america. believe in its founding principles and let's restore growth. believe in the people and what they can do. >> that's a lot. that's a big grab bag of things that you said the president is here to harm the economy. the president doesn't demonize wealth. the president thinks that business is good, that growth is good and has grown this economy in a way that i don't think that was obvious when he came into office. >> that's like saying black is white, white is black, up is down, down is up. >> more people have jobs than they did when he took office. the economy is growing not shrinking. those are just facts. that's not perception. >> we don't have any kind of robust growth. it's anemic growth much we've always had economic just by the population increases you increase growth. we have got egregious unemployme

who has been hurt by the obama economy? who have been the losers under the obama economy that of the most vulnerable among us? they are younger people, hispanics, african-americans, single moms. those are the ones pushed into part-time work, losing their health care. as republicans am a we should be championing opportunities for people who are struggling. [applause] what is the fight over obama care about? let me share with you a couple of stories. shannon from toledo, ohio, roads wrote that both her husband and her are machinists. our insurance premiums have doubled already in our due to go up dramatically for 2014. our hours have been reduced. my son has a part-time job as a server. in the past, he was able to work up to 35 hours a week. a month ago, he was told he could only work up to 25 hours a week as a direct result of obamacare. in our family, 100% of the working people are seeing a negative outcome due to obama and his fancy laws. please continue to fight. here is another story from texas. my name is rigo. i am a s

who has been hurt by the obama economy?ho have been the losers under the obama economy that of the most vulnerable among us? they are younger people, hispanics, african-americans, single moms. those are the ones pushed into part-time work, losing their health care. as republicans am a we should be championing opportunities for people who are struggling. [applause] what is the fight over obama care about? let me share with you a couple of stories. shannon from toledo, ohio, roads wrote that both her husband and her are machinists. our insurance premiums have doubled already in our due to go up dramatically for 2014. our hours have been reduced. my son has a part-time job as a server. in the past, he was able to work up to 35 hours a week. a month ago, he was told he could only work up to 25 hours a week as a direct result of obamacare. in our family, 100% of the working people are seeing a negative outcome due to obama and his fancy laws. please continue to fight. here is another story from texas. my name is rigo. i am a sin

who has been hurt by the obama economy? losers under the the obama economy that are the most vulnerable among us? people, young arfrican-americans, they are the ones pushed in part-time work and losing their .ealth care and as republicans we should be championing opportunity for who are struggling. what is the fight over obama care about? me share with you a couple make d.c. from listen.org. wroten from toledo, ohio, my name is shannon. my husband and i are machinists. since obama care has been enacted our workplace stopped giving raises or bonuses. our insurance premiums have doubled already. up are due to go dramatically for 2014. on top of that our hours have reduced. my 19-year-old son who is has ding college part-time a part-time job at bob evans as a server. the past he was able to work up to 35 hours a week. he t a manage he was told can only work up to 25 hours a week. direct result of became care. in our family 100% of the seeing a ople are negative outcome on our living to obama and his fancy laws. please continue

. >> i'm not going to disagree that the obama economy.hat is the case but the idea that 48 million americans are on this program and every single one of them needs every dollar that they are getting. >> i got to leave it there. guy and emily thaw. >> coming up. new video of the terror attack at a shopping mall in kenya. plus a notorious killer finding a new career behind bars. soup has pretty bold flavor. i love bold flavors! i'd love it if you'd open the chute! [ male announcer ] progresso. surprisingly bold flavor for a heart healthy soup. >>> welcome back. convicted boyfriend killer jodi arias using her artistic skills to make things behind bars. the prints are running for $39 bucks. since her trial made headlines, her artworks have sold for hundreds of dollars a piece on ebay. >> chilling new video capturing the moment when shoppers went running for their lives. now the hunt for one terror suspect leaving investigators up to norway. what would be the connection there? >> greg, what is the connection? >> there is a connection there and

that is because we're living in obama's economy. if you actually had a growing economy with economic growth policies in place, this economy would be booming and you wouldn't have this kind of issue. so instead of going after mcdonald's as employer, go after the president and this government. melissa: sit tight, sit tight, hang on, up next, in case you didn't know the reason you're miserable at work isn't because you're overloaded. it is because your boss is a nightmare and we have stats to prove it. part two of our money talker. hear big questions coming out of the health care website horrors. why are ceos so clue le r countless about technology? we have harvard professor robert cap plan. cap plan. stick around, this is the quicksilver cash back card from capital one. it's not the "juggle a bunch of rotating categories" card. it's not the "sign up for rewards each quarter" card. it's the no-games, no-messing-'round, no-earning-limit-having, do-i-look-like-i'm-joking, turbo-boosting, heavyweight-champion- of-the-world cash back card.

president obama wrapping up a speech on the economy. hi, everyone, i'm gretchen carlson. welcome to "the real story." the president under fire, though, for his signature accomplishment, speaking in d.c. as he tries to move away from the messy rollout of obama care. >> because you've heard repeatedly today and you will hear, undoubtedly, after i leave this stage, america is open for business. and businesses have responded. you know, after a decade in which many jobs left the united states to go overseas, now we're seeing companies starting to bring jobs back. >> so, let's take a look at some key economic numbers that seem to be all over the place, quite frankly. the stock market flirting with a week of record highs, despite a lackluster report on retail sales. and gas prices dropping to an average of $3.28 per gallon, down almost a quarter from last year. but milk prices may be about to soar, or sour, depending on how you look at it. joining me now, melissa francis, host of "money with melissa francis" on the fox business network. what do you make of this up-and-down econom

as you know we've been in the obama economy and we're all stuck here, not moving forward.ve got to move forward with reforms, we've got to change the situation. stuart: we hear you. renee elmers, republican, north carolina, registered nurse, i believe. you know what you're talking about. thank you very much for being with us, renee, much appreciate it. >> thank you, good to be with you. stuart: all right, my take on a rare victory in america's energy policy. that's coming up next and yet, it is a very rare victory indeed. >> it is a triple digit loss. the dow industrial is off 107 point. market down. however, look at re/max, it's an ipo. real estate company just started trading. we have the ceo coming up. the stock is up 18%. burlington, burlington coat factory is straight up. another ipo. moments from now, new at 10 being, jay-z worth a half billion. what does he attribute his success to? starting out as a crack dealer. we will discuss. and big business, chances are you get a pop-up ad on your smart phone and we have the company that made it. any company that's not in the

stuart: when will we finally shed the obama economy? this new normal. when we'll get rid of it.take on that is next. ♪ >> well, take a look at facebook. hit a new high. 51.57 right now. harsh words for senator ted cruz from the wall street journal powerful columnist dan henninger, wait until you use the word he used to describe him. he'll be here at 10:00. condoleezza rice is on the playoff selection committee. a lot of the sporting world's establishment does not like it. we have ms. rice's response. that will be new at 10:00. all right. now what? you know the story, last minute deal, spending and borrowing continue as normal, we've got it, we know it, okay. where to from here? do we have any shot at shaking off this new normal? this malaise of weakness, division, handouts and debt? and here is my take. when i say shake off the new normal, i mean, returning to a robust dynamic growing economy, what would it take to get that? tax reform, above all lower rates on people and businesses. all right, how do you shake off the divisions in this handout society. this us versus them menta

president obama warns a prolonged shutdown could have a bad effect on the economy. >> president obama would throw a wrench into the gears of our economy at a time when the gears have gained some traction. >> reporter: but phil curpin, president of american commitment, says investors don't appear to be concerned. >> this is certainly not new territory. it is something we've been through many, many times before the the stock market basically sh rulg shrugged it off. >> reporter: meanwhile, some republicans are starting to break ranks and calling for legislation to fund the government with no conditions. >> i think this is a bad idea. >> reporter: ephraim graham, cbn news. >> pat: it is amazing, we have a president who is disengaged. he is going to take a trip abroad. he just doesn't seemo care. and it is just easy to make a speech and blame the other guys. but in terms of negotiating, we do have a congress that, according to the united states constitution, is really very preeminent. as far as i read the constitution, the house of representatives is the most important branch, according t

obama. you are our ballast between progressivism and a growing economy. >> isn't this why we're seeing such gridlock? because republicans feel their mission is to just block president obama? >> absolutely. and you've got to look back at the contrast. democrats were in the minority, they were the opposition party. what they did was they fought for what they believed in and worked with the republicans to get things done. this gang of republicans, once they got in the majority they say no, no, no. look, we are -- with president obama in the white house, they said our mission is not to work

that would be the obama economy. well, get ready, the excuse factory is cranking up.y take on that in just a moment. ♪ peace of mind is important when you're running a successful business. so we provide it services you can rely on. with centurylink as your trusted it partner, you'll experience reliable uptime for the network and services you depend on. multi-layered security solutions keep your information safe, and secure. and responsive dedicated support meets your needs, and eases your mind. centurylink. your link to what's next. you know, pictures tell the story with sears. a retail analyst look these pictures at a couple of sears stores? would you want to shop there? he doesn't. we'll talk to him about sears in our next hour and then we've got a divorce attorney, he's going to join us to explain why obamacare will lead to more divorces. that's an intriguing angle, isn't it? headline in the new york times, dysfunction in congress. taking a toll on a soft economy. here we go. a factory is cranking up, the economy is weakening. it's the republicans fault, blame ted

the obama economy the new normal? 49 states seeing an increase in poverty.r this. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, finite possibilities. stuart: i'm going to call it, pretty much dead flat. 15,300 index. it would be up works not for mcdonald's. look at this, hasbro big success with "my little pony" line selling well with girls. they have a nice boys line coming up later. now this, new numbers on rising poverty in america. for nine states have seen an increase in the number of families living below the poverty line just in the past year. 15% of all young people, 16 to 24 other work nor attend school. charles and sandra are with me on this one. it seems strange to me we're supposed to be in recovery mode and yet in the past year 49 states recorded increase in poverty in the last year. you say what? >> i'm sitting in one of the cities that is diverse. they have over 100,000 idle youth. at the root of the problem is there graduated from college were not going to college, not using any of the skills

get the zombie -- obama care has become the easy scapegoat for people to blame for things that were already happening in the economy. >> how can you say obama care isn't in part to blame for more part-timers? >> we say -- we look at the data. when we hear anecdotes, we respond to that. but when you look at the agate data, it rather overwhelmingly demonstrates that again, this is a nice talking point, but it's just not accurate. it's part of the confusion campaign that folks are waging. >> joining me now is the democrat from california and congresswoman, now that we have the bls data, do you expect that we won't hear this anymore because the data shows it just isn't true. >> i do think that my republicans colleagues have consistency shown that data doesn't really change their talking points. they're even marketing books that contribute to the confusion around health care reform. >> one of the things i think that's happened with the health care law is something that also happens with the debt and deficit is that people attach it to their economic anxiety about a labor market that's not functioning very well in the br

president obama wrapping up a speech on the economy. hi, everyone, i'm gretchen carlson. real story." the president under fire, though, for his signature accomplishment, speaking in d.c. as he tries to move away from the messy rollout of obama care. >> because you've heard repeatedly today and you will hear, undoubtedly, after i leave this stage, america is open for business. and businesses have responded. you know, after a decade in which many jobs left the united states to go overseas, now we're seeing companies starting to bring jobs back.

economy. at the last minute mrs. obama and boehner cut a deal to avert that calamity. this year's 2013 budget ceiling standoff is now scheduled to go into 2014 reveals a new path in america's policy. the fundamental functions of the government, it means that the white house and congress, they failed to negotiate until the crisis looms. and then only acts at the last minute. question, is this the new normal on the american politics? timothy? >> the reason that it is the new normal isn't just that the parties are that separated. these giant groups that can go out and fund. so the party leaders, they don't have the control that they used to have. rank and file senators and congress really had to listen to what the speaker or the majority leader would tell them to do because that is the only one for them to raise money. but now if you are a member in either groups, you can go to the internet that don't rely on the business lobbyists and who they are upsetting. so they will go out to a bunch of conservatives who will watch their ads. >> well, you're right. that the leaders

economy. >> president obama taking lawmakers to task today for the shutdown, calling it a manufactured crisiswarning them that it puts the economy at risk. >>> thousands of government workers are going back today. many reporting earlier this morning. the government has a provision for them to get paid back. >>> the major of newark, new jersey is getting a new job. cory booker won a seat in the u.s. senate yesterday. he will fill the seat of the late frank laudenberg who died in june. >>> an international conference could take place by the end of the month regarding syria. inspectors say inspections have taken place under a backdrop of violence. car bombs and mortars exploding near the hotel where inspectors are staying in damascus. the violence, has not, though, impeded their work. the team has inspecteded 11 sites so far. omar is near he syrian border. >> reporter: it has praised this cooperation given by the government and says syria will no longer have the ability to manufacture weapons or mix chemical agents. on another development a un source told al jazeera that a working date to hold t

president obama warned the economy faces a deep recession if congress can't agree on raising the debt limit. checking the numbers if we have to, the dow fell another 160 points in trading yesterday. it's now wiped out all of its gains that it had for all of september. the s&p 500 was down by 20 points. the nasdaq got hammered, down by 75 points on the day. >>> apple is running out of new iphone customers. that's the word from analyst. the number of people buying an iphone for the first time is shrinking unless the company signs with the largest carrier. it will not meet its forecast for 2014 and 2015. but despite the dwindling number of first-time buyers, the number of people replacing their iphones is expected to increase because phones break and we've got to buy something. >>> but that's not going to stop the tech giant from making new toys. apple could unveil additions to its ipad line as soon as october 22. they could debate an ipad mini with retina display and a thinner pad. the new fingerprint technology may also make an appearance in the version. apple has been holding preceden

economy. theresident obama says answer is simple. congress needs to pass a budget with no partisan strings attached. but members of the house are pushing the government. >> we are going to go forward addressing the situation in critical stages. me out ofuld put business. the country is at stake here. >> brianne carter, abc 7 news. many federal workers are accepting the free burgers at z- burger, the owner says it could put him out of business. today will be the last day he is offering that promotion. the deal runs until 1:00 this afternoon and again from 5:00 until 7:00. you will need to show your government id. hundreds of thousands of federal workers are off the job, but members of congress are still collecting paychecks. john gonzales has a look at exactly who is getting paid. john? -- the law clearly states members of congress and the president must be paid even during a government shutdown. many lawmakers are under the microscope as 800,000 federal employees are being furloughed. interview, republican senator mike lee seems to e

but the thing is we got a law on the land, a flaw of the land, obama care, that is hurting our economy. >> hurting the american people today and -- >> be specific. what would it take for you to vote in favor of ending the government shutdown? >> i want to see obama care reschedule for the implementation. we need to defund it and delay it. we need to put it on the shelf and stop this implementation because it is destroying our economy. >> you know the president -- the president is not going to do that, congressman. >> well, the american people are hurting. if enough american people demand that this thing be put on hold, that we delay the implementation and put it on hold and reschedule the implementation until we can do something that makes sense. my patient option act is the thing that makes sense because my patient option act literally will lower the health care cost of all americans and provide access to good quality health care for everybody in this country and it's going to save medicare from going broke. that is the kind of policy we must put in place instead of the obama care. >>

economy? what president obama's fed no, ma'am ni means for your money. >>> and a big al qaeda capture in africa and reignite the political debate over guantanamo bay over here at home. >>> welcome to ""the journal editorial report." i'm paul gigot. well, with october 17th fast approaching, both sides are scrambling to reach at least a short-term deal to raise the federal government's borrowing limit. president obama this week painted a bleak picture should congress fail to reach an agreement on the debt ceiling before thursday's deadline. >> if congress refuses to raise what's called the debt ceiling, america would not be able to meet all of our financial obligations for the first time in 225 years. nobody in the past has ever seriously threatened to breach the debt ceiling until the last two years. and this is the credit worthiness of the united states that we're talking about. this is our word. this is our good name. this is real. >> but thanks to the 14th amendment, constitutional attorney david rivkin says the default on the federal debt is not even a possibility. i spoke with him earlier a

the obama economy prevented that. >> you think the ads yould mean quote opt down.ng to do? >> i have nothing to do with those ads, young americans want to find a job that can get them the health care they need. i get health care through my employer. i'm thankful for that. >> so if you are not employed, you don't deserve health insurance? >> i'm not saying that. let get the costs down, instead of making it unaffordable. >> but again there is a question here of, there's the philosophical, you know, what republicans say, i'm trying to figure out what the republican replace plan is, again, we are living in a world with the affordable care act the for seeable future is the law of the land. i'm watching how the republicans handle this week and i'm hearing outrage about the problems consumers are having, justifiable outrage, i'm wondering, are you telling people you should sign up for this? do you want this law to work? >> i want people to have health care and be responsible. the problem i'm facing is most americans can't afford obama care in the way it's being implemente

trillion of obama's planned spending and we need to do more. >> they did not do anything about the long term entitlement spending and cut short term spending necessary to stimulate the economy. >> obama had the presidency and the house and senate for two full years and did nothing about long term entitlements other than to add to it. the idea that he desires to detail to the long term entitlement spending he spent every day in 2009 not doing anything and every day in 2010 and we really believe that he secretly wants to do that when he had all the power and did nothing but make it worse? >> obama offered cuts in medicare and in the consumer price index as part -- >> tied to a trillion dollars in tax increases. >> and every time we have done anything about the budget deficit in the past it was a compromise with cuts and spending and increases in revenue. >> not in 2011. we got just spending which is the right way to go. >> do you think he could have passed it the first two years knowing he was facing a re-election? >> he threw away his house majority doing something else. >> dana? >> the one thing i'm thinking is i wish i could agsay gob smacke and not look like a fool like c

dealing with the impact of obama care on the economy, that's an important thing to do and piers, we come, everybody bring their best ideas and their best thoughts and what we have right now -- >> but the trouble -- the trouble is -- >> i wish we weren't here but we are. >> marsha blackburn, the problem is it may be the best idea and thoughts for you and ted cruz but like i say, the best ideas and thoughts might be absolutely catastrophic for the american people and global economy. at what point does the out right selfish self-interest of ted cruz and his colleagues out weigh the american interest in the global economic interest? >> there again, what we don't do is talk about personalities. >> come off it, marsha -- >> how do we deal -- >> no, marsha -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> this is what we need to put -- >> marsha, marsha, ted cruz doesn't stop talking about barack obama's personality. >> this dealt with. we didn't want a government shutdown. we don't want to have a default on the debt. what we are doing -- >> right. >> what house republicans have done is we have passed four differ

facili at what cost for you and the economy? an obama exchange is open for business. i will tell you what's next and answer some questions. i am ali velshi. this is "real money." >> this is "real money." you are the most important part of the show. the government may be shut down but twitter is still working. join our live conversation for the next half hour by using the hash tag ajrealmoney on twitter. let me show you, what congress and the president show to have been talking about for the last 10 months, but they haven't committed. some in congress have said they have taught with a continuing resolution or cr. you have heard that before. the budget is $3.6 trillion per year. 96 to medicare, another 19% to social security. both programs are mandatory. the congress can't mess with these, with those appropriations. 176 billion. only 5%. of the 3.6 trillion, only about half can be fiddled with, including military spending and non-defense spending of the that's about 21%, by the way, for military. the budget was enacted. this one, in april, 2009. the last time, a full bu

economy. president obama and congressional democrats have proposed small increases in the minimum wage for both tipped and non-tipped workers. but the proposals haven't moved far in congress. and just a few minutes from the capitol building, some workers allege that the federal government isn't complying with its own wage laws. this is the ronald reagan building, home of dozens of federal agencies, including the department of customs and border protection. at lunch, the food hall fills up with tourists and government workers. >> the restaurants in this food hall are actually federally contracted businesses, but the workers here claim they're owed nearly a million dollars in unpaid wages. >> many workers allege they didn't get overtime pay, some say they got even less than dc's hourly minimum wage of $8.25. >> antonio venagus started working in the food court in 2010. >> is this how you treat american workers? >> no! >> in may of this year, antonio spoke at one of several one-day strikes in dc to protest wage theft and low wages. the next day, he was arrested, and detained by immigration officia

obama. anyway, thank you, gentlemen. right now, we have to ask this question. did the go. shutdown really seriously damage the economy? s&p says it might have shaved off a full percentage point from gdp. they are nuts. that's our debate just ahead. later in the show, the obama care disaster now creeping on to the front pages that the budget battle is on hold and the news is disastrous. and don't forget, folk, free market capitalism best path to prosperity. i want to keep the spending cuts from the sequester. small government is part of free market capitalism. i was made to work. make my mark with pride. create moments of value. build character through quality. and earn the right to be called a classic. the lands' end no iron dress shirt. starting at 49 dollars. 20 years with the company.hool. thousands of presentations. and one hard earned partnership. it took a lot of work to get this far. so now i'm supposed to take a back seat when it comes to my investments? there's zero chance of that happening. avo: when you work with a schwab financial consultant, you'll get the guidance you need with the control you want. talk

economy. is that a result of obama care or was that happening before that?of view, it's certainly added to the acceleration of the issues jack and i have just talked about. but i think you were talking earlier, we're in a jobless recovery. the productivity that must be cranked out to offset the lack of top line growth, these jobs aren't going to come back, maria. i think and when the president made his comments the other night about the three priorities, which are great. i was -- i kept waiting for four and five, which was job creation and energy independence. >> yeah. are we losing the goal of creating jobs? i mean, that was the goal. and job creation. >> it seems to have fallen off the table for the moment. >> yes. >> look, if you think about the job -- the joblessness in this country, you have to think about it in the following way. we've had 63% to 65% of the working age population working. for years. decades. >> the participation rated, yeah. >> no, 63% to 65% of the people working of adult age. it's now 58%. and that number is millions of people. so, w

dealing with the impact of obama care on the economy, that's an important thing to do and piers, we come, everybody bring their best ideas and their best thoughts and what we have right now -- >> but the trouble -- the trouble is -- >> i wish we weren't here but we are. >> marsha blackburn, the problem is it may be the best idea and thoughts for you and ted cruz but like i say, the best ideas and thoughts might be absolutely catastrophic for the american people and global economy. at what point does the out right selfish self-interest of ted cruz and his colleagues out weigh the american interest in the global economic interest? >> there again, what we don't do is talk about personalities. >> come off it, marsha -- >> how do we deal -- >> no, marsha -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> this is what we need to put -- >> marsha, marsha, ted cruz doesn't stop talking about barack obama's personality. >> this dealt with. we didn't want a government shutdown. we don't want to have a default on the debt. what we are doing -- >> right. >> what house republicans have done is we have passed four differ