upon this opportunity, president obama, initially, said, "look, mayors, we provided you with a report when i was in office. this is a guideline of how to bridge this gulfbetween police and communities of color. commit that you will look at your use of force policies and work with the community over the next 60, 90 days, and figure out what you can do differently." the good news, willie, is that there are examples of cities around the country who have been implementing those important -- that important task force report. so we know what needs to be done. the only question is, is there the political will? when we have this much pressure coming from peaceful demonstrations, and so many activists who are committed to the long haul, this is a marathon, not a sprint, that's what gives me reason to be hopeful. i am old enough to remember the civil rights movement, and this does feel different. >> rashad, your group, color of change, organized that town hall with president obama. also, we saw attorney general eric holder there, as well. on the policy level, what'd you hear from president obama yesterday that lines up with where you are, and real practical chan