obama-phobia. president obama said something today that should have him scared. >>> and years ago today america lost one of the best civil rights leaders in history. his widow myrlie evers-williams joins me. >>> and i want to know from you friend or foe, e-mail your questions. reply al is ahead. ♪ [ roars ] ♪ [ roars ] ♪ [ roars ] ♪ [ roars ] ♪ [ male announcer ] universal studios summer of survival. ♪ >>> have you joined the "politicsnation" conversation on facebook yet? we hope you will. today so many in our facebook family were honoring and remembering medgar evers. lolita says i will never forget. i lived a few blocks from this family when i was 13. sathanuman says his wife is a hero for keeping his memory alive and fighting to find and convict his murderer. yes, she is a hero. and gerald says as elders, we need to expose our kids as well as our grand kids to our history and not let it be told by someone else. coming up, we will talk to medgar's widow myrlie evers-williams about her late husban

>> i think he has obama phobia. the reality is that it is the gang of eight that came together, four democrats and four republicans, and said that we need a path to citizenship, that it's a tough path, it's a long path, but it's a fair path at the end of the day. we see in europe when people can't find a way towards becoming part of a country, the challenges that europe has faced, we don't want an underclass in america, and these individuals are going to have to earn their way, go through a criminal background check and pay taxes and learn english and after nearly a decade, they will get their shot. so i think ted cruz is fixates on this issue and it's amazing to me representing a state like texas he doesn't understand a pathway to citizenship is really what is desired. by all of those not only who aspire to become part of america but by the american electorate that in poll after poll says they want to fix this broken system and certainly by latino and immigrant community who overwhelmingly looks at this as a civil

. >> i think he has obama phobia. cruz is fixated on this issue and it's amazing to me representing a state like texas that he doesn't understand that a pathway to citizenship is really what is desired. >> so sabrina, is that really the bigger issue here, that there is some sort of obama phobia? and if we look at the larger picture, the fact that this is really hurting any chances of crafting a position for marco rubio to have some type of substantial legislation to run on come 2016. >> right. well, there actually have been record deportations under the obama administration, so republicans continue to hone in on the idea that the border isn't secure enough and they act like president obama actually hasn't done enough with respect to deportation even though that's actually not the case. so with marco rubio, there is an element of him being in a sensitive position and he has at times tried to distance himself from the white house during this process because he is the salesman to conservatives who continue to oppose the

and every time he tries to invoke the president, i said earlier that i think he has obama phobia.ation is largely drafted by the bipartisan group of eight, including, you know, senator mccain. it was a previous presidential candidate for the republican party. so, you know, i respect his right to make his view, but i totally disagree with him. >> let me ask you this quickly, senator. this scandal-mania. and i'm not belittling the scandals, but i seriously question how they have connected them to the president and the white house. i mean, do you think this kind of solid kind of substantive legislation will get us past all of this scandal mania that we've been distracted in my opinion, distracted because they're trying to make it a presidential level scandal rather than what it seems to be at least the evidence so far. do you think now we're going to get back to more solid things? >> well, look. the american people are watching. in poll after poll, they have made it very clear that they want to see this immigration system that is broken reformed. they want to see product of the senat