striking that basically, trump once again appears determined to do what i would call the not obama playbookdoubt -- >> whatever he did, do the opposite. >> so what can we say about trump and iran? we know he is very, very against randle without knowing what their policy is without having defined it. other than saying we're going to tweet very aggressively against it. >> it is hard to know what to do, the not obama playbook. totally his instinct when you have a travel ban that doesn't allow people from the country. >> is he really they know situation? or let my people in? that type of thing. that's an interesting -- >> one of the arguments that prevailed in 2009 and kept them from giving vocal support from protesters is that that would play into the regime's hands. that would make it easier to dismiss protesters as being outside agitators. something they did quite effectively in 1969. >> right. but the argument that prevailed, they'll say it anyway. and meanwhile you can give them that support. >> to me the technology thing is the most significant game changer here. jason brought it up. >> a

. >> isis important positive recognize this was not obama's playbook, the president took a differentde generals make decisions about isis now they are on the run. >> this is something the president again doesn't get enough credit for, about his foreign policy successes, isis has been a tremendous success how he has aggressively rooted them out took criticism for aggressive plan worked terms of engagement for men and women in uniform were literally told stand down in many situations and, yet, out there training and out there in battlefield, and you would hear from our men and women in uniform saying you know i am out there in afghanistan, somewhere else i can't actually do my job, and president trump said we are going to take crazy policies away let you do what you are trained to do, it is having great success, then the aggression towards north korea iran biut will ed when he said something many presidents promised to do never did we are going to make actually move the capital of israel into jerusalem the nation's capital took courage you saw you a applause last night for that because

once schumer and pelosi decided to shut down the government they are following the same playbook president obama13. you don't reward bad behavior. if the other party shuts down the government, you talk about reopening but you don't make any substantive policy concessions until the government is reopened. so i think this shutdown right now, senator schumer, leader pelosi, are delaying the bipartisan negotiations on daca, the negotiates to protect the d.r.e.a.m.ers, that they say they want. >> you give them an a-plus. you cannot mean that. "the washington post" has a piece, dated january 15, talking about the insanity in trying to get this deal done. you have lindsey graham, the president asked if his one time foe turned ally, and people familiar with what went on, then when lindsey graham and dick durbin awi -- arrive, they are surprised to find trump is changing his mind and fired up by tom cotton and steven miller at the meeting, people they didn't expect to be there and then trump goes from wanting to make a deal to changing his mind on a deal. you cannot, michael steel, believe this is a-plus

i think a lot of democrats are willing to go there and in some ways replicate the playbook from the obama years. >> it is amazing that a couple of days ago this seemed like a done deal or everyone was getting close to that. democrats continue to hammer the president for using the term for african countries. here's what john lewis has to say. >> it's unreal. it's unbelievable. it makes me sad. it makes me cry. as a nation and as a people who have come so far, we made so much progress, we havesome so far and made so much progress and this man, this president is taking us back to another place. >> do you think rump is a racist? >> i think he is a racist. >> how do you explain and what do we do about it? >> stand up and speak up and not try to sweep it under the rug. >> almost lost in this is the fact that this daca deal that does look questionable, there are a lot of people, young people who are counting on this to prevent themselves from being deported. do you think that the debate has destroyed their opportunity for the time being? a lot of lives hang in the balance. this is an issue that

obama nation. academic prestigious and government posts and holds a phd from m.i.t.. heather connelly is a s.nior vice president at csi headed the team that authored the kremlin playbook. you want to read it. gives you a real rundown. she and her team analyzed what the russians are doing across europe and you will find similar things going on there. spots at thed state department. assistance to the newly invented states. when the soviet union fell in, and down at the end joining me, one of the men on this panel. william -- william wright should -- william reich. he was president of the foreign national -- national foreign trade council. he served as a member of the u.s. china economic and security review commission and he spent 20 years on capitol hill. most of that time working with senator john heinz and later with senator rockefeller. .hat we heard last night this was the speech the new york times described as remarkably devoid of new policies. that sounds a little harsh but when i went back and looked i discovered it was a full hour and to the speech before he proposed a plan that he wanted the congress to take up. this was the infrastructure plan. i thought what