. >>> also breaking, president trump and his claim that president obama wiretapped trump tower before the election. now, the new question tonight involving president obama's national security adviser, susan rice. did she ask for names? did she unmask them? members of the trump team caught up in surveillance by the u.s. what she is saying tonight. >>> the abc news investigation. former trump campaign adviser carter page. were russian spies trying to recruit him to work for them. brian ross finds him today. >>> and, two separate manhunts. the officer killed showing up to work. and in atlanta, the female lawyer targeted and killed during rush hour. new reporting tonight. >>> good evening. it's great to have you with us on a tuesday night. we're going to begin tonight with the images that have stunned the world. it's hard to imagine that after six years of war in syria, there could be something even worse than what many have already seen. tonight, our team has taken great care to pour through the images, but we warn you, they're still difficult to see. a chemical attack, war planes droppi

wiretapping being talked about. i've been seeing a lot of things. >> said president obama ordered wiretaps on trump tower. what do you believe? >> no. that's what i said. we've cleared that up. we've seen no evidence of that. >> as far as wiretapping by this past administration, at least we have something in common, perhaps. >> the department has no information that supports those tweets. >> he said that there is no information to support the allegations that the president made against president obama. >> at this time. as chairman nunes mentioned, this is one in a series of hearings. >> this is information that was brought to me that i thought the president needed to know about collection. >> i somewhat do. i must somewhat do. >> i had to brief the speaker first. >> he had told me that like a whistle-blower type person had given him some information. >> did you encourage him to then go tell the president about it? >> no. >> at least some white house officials had to be involved in him getting information. >> i cannot get into who those individuals were. >> did the president direct anyone in this white hou

wiretapping being talked about. i've been seeing a lot of things. >> said president obama ordered wiretaps on trump tower. do you believe? >> no. that's what i said. we've cleared that up. we've seen no evidence of that. >> as far as wiretapping by this past administration, at least we have something in common, perhaps. >> the department has no information that supports those tweets. >> he said that there is no information to support the allegations that the president made against president obama. >> at this time. as chairman nunes mentioned, this is one in a series of hearings. >> this is information that was brought to me that i thought the president needed to know about collection. >> i somewhat do. i must somewhat do. >> i had to brief the speaker first. >> he had told me that like a whistle-blower type person had given him some information. >> did you encourage him to then go tell the president about it? >> no. >> at least some white house officials had to be involved in him getting information. >> i cannot get into who those individuals were. >> did the president direct anyone in this white house or

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trump supporters are using this to bolster trump's claim on the now infamous tweet that obama wiretappedmp tower, are you buying this? >> " ," it's an honor to be here tonight. nothing like getting invited to the orgy after the girls go home. >> andy: i think you just insulted someone. >> a beautiful married woman. >> he's just sucking up to you. it >> screw andy, and he is unemployed tomorrow. here's what thick is getting lost in this, it's not a susan rice issue, it's an obama issue. susan rice isn't doing anything without obama telling her to. the president is like being the head of a college basketball program, the boosters don't go out there and do anything unless you are of it. i think this is more, almost a bigger example of the collusion between obama and the media in that they really let him get away with everything. especially in the post inaugural period, they've done so many things to undermine trump and to greater extent national security and we let them have a pass because trump is kind of throwing us off the scent with its own tweets. he needs to play a little defense. >>

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he is trying to pull this into the realm of looking at the allegations of obama wiretapping trump.l this into that direction -- carol: it is unusual for the committee to go to the white house and read the president and not the committee. bench brief the president and not members of the committee. >> it raises questions about who he is serving. is he serving as a member of congress or serving the executive? that is the entire premise of the separation of powers. carol: this makes the senate committee investigation that much more important. >> that is the main act. the two chairman there, they have what seems to be a pretty good relationship. they have been out front and saying we want to be as transparent as possible about this, but thought this was going to wrap up by summer are long gone. this thing will take months and months. we will not have any report before the end of the year, if that. what is interesting is their ability to access this raw intelligence that exists inside the cia is -- every day, the senate investigators, seven staffers who work for this committee, every day

the white house all but accused gchq of helping president obama wiretap donald trump.as thatjustified? did it damage the five eyes alliance? again, there are a lot of things that have been said and tweeted and whatever that ijust — i am mystified over. as to why they were done. if at the end of these investigations, into the leaks, it is found that there has been leaks by cia officers themselves, they will undermine their own organisation. they will undermine the organisation that you've served for all these years, if that's found to be the case. anybody who releases classified information, whether it be to a foreign intelligence service or to the media, to me, is carrying out a treasonous act against their country. they should be held to account. there have been instances where cia officers in the past, just like british intelligence officers of the past, have gone bad. the deep state. well, no. these are individuals who have violated their oath of office. you don't believe in the deep state? i do not, absolutely not. that's ridiculous that there's a deep state trying

one month ago donald trump woke up on a saturday morning and tweeted out that president obama wiretapped. "just found out," i think he called him sad, and sam other names. that was how this began with a definitive statement that president obama ordered a wiretap. that has been disproven by a number of officials. since then the white house has tried to muddy the water a bit saying that he meant "wiretapping," in quotes, which meant surveillance, and they've asked congress to investigate it, to find out more information. and we've had the drip, drip, drip since then. devin nunes goes to the white house, comes back and says maybe there was incidental surveillance, it has nothing to do with russia. now we are hearing about susan rice potentially being the unmasker of names and russia's getting woven back into this. but this all started with one tweet that said definitively president obama wiretapped trump tower. so why is it evolved into this? >> because every time something happens, the trump people claim they're vindicated. that gets debunked like everything else, like he had the laest cro

justification, a far cry from president trump's initial claim one month ago, that president obama wiretapped trump tower, an accusation that mr. trump has attempted to really redefine and justify, even after his own fbi director refuted the claim. >> i think you will find some very interesting items coming to the forefront over the next two weeks. >> last week the trump administration tried to distort comments made by a former obama defense official. >> dr. farkus's add mamissions e are devastating. >> she says her comments are wildly misinterpreted. and the week before that devin nunes got wrapped up in the white house's diversion. >> the president needs to know these intelligence reports are out there. >> briefing the commander and chief and the media before his own committee about classified information on the president and his associates. >> i appreciated the fact they found what they found. >> trump calling nunes's announcement vindication. later it turns out that officials inside trump's white house were the source of the documents shown to nunes. >> we believe this is nothing more tha

. >>> also breaking, president trump and his claim that president obama wiretapped trump tower beforeight involving president obama's national security adviser, susan rice. did she ask for names? did she unmask them? members of the trump team caught up in surveillance by the u.s. what she is saying tonight. >>> the abc news investigation. former trump campaign adviser carter page.

. >>> also breaking, president trump and his claim that president obama wiretapped trump tower beforection. now, the new question tonight involving president obama's national security adviser, susan rice. did she ask for names? did she unmask them? members of the trump team caught up in surveillance by the u.s. what she is saying tonight. >>> the abc news investigation. former trump campaign adviser carter page.

wiretapping. nothing to do with president obama. nothing to do with trump even. g to do with nothing, and yet trump uses it to back up his crazy campaign theme that somehow during the campaign, he was being wiretapped. your thoughts. >> well, look, you know, first of all, i'd love to see a chart, just a chart that includes all of the news stories that that one tweet spawned. just think about this. a month of crazy diversionary coverage. the whole nunes affair, which is quite likely -- again, i still think he's a very compromised broker in terms of his investigation. sooner or later he's either going to be replaced or -- >> maybe it knocked down bannon a couple of pegs. we'll see. >> think of how much manpower and energy on the white house staff, and the other thing about it, chris, is they've gone through various theories in terms of the pushback. remember last week we had a former obama administration official who had been gone since 2015, who they trotted out as saying something which sean said from the podium was exculpatory. so it's very, very clear that they'

brian, president trump has said that president obama wiretapped trump tower. this report does not get to that. >> if the washington post report was correct, this was a very specific operation aimed at one trump adviser who the white house said was never a major player in the campaign, david. >> all right, brian ross has been on this story for some time. >>> in other news, police in sacramento, california, conducting a criminal investigation into the action of one of their own. tackling a man accuse of jaywalking. the incident was captured on camera. abc's kayna whitworth with those images tonight. >> hey! hey! >> reporter: tonight, the arrest video that even the sacramento police department calls disturbing. >> i'm in a fight! >> reporter: newly released dashcam video shows the confrontation. it was just after 5pm and nandi cain had just crossed the street when the unidentified officer attempts to stop him for jaywalking. >> get down on the ground now! >> reporter: they begin to argue. cain removes his jacket. >> if you a real man you can take your gun away an

. >> and as for the alligations from president trump that president obama wiretapped trump tower. >> there was no surveillance on trump tower or trump individuals. >> rand paul is not satisfied. telling fox and friends this morning the real question we need to ask susan rice is did the president direct you to eavesdrop and sift through the mountain of evidence we have. >> and as the president meets with king abdullah at capitol hill. they are demanding rice be called to testify. >> she will be invited as will others and the ranking member tells cnn this morning he will rick williams any relevant testimony. >> but the focus is on the trump response to russia and hacking and the election and those of our european allies and we will not lose focus on that. >> what is the next step in the investigation, the senate panel looking into the issue is conducting the first interview behind closed doors today. megan hughes, channel 6 "action news." >>> back here a group of students have waited weeks and weeks for a day of fun created just for them in northeast philadelphia. nazareth academy part

ignoring the president's twitter accusation that obama wiretapped him. and his other slams. >> i inherited a mess. >> reporter: why not fight back? >> he doesn't agree with the decisions that have been made, this is the outcome of the election. >> reporter: when they left washington, the obama's said they would be dropping out for a while. >> first, we're going to take a little break. >> reporter: spending the past months kitesurfing with richard branson, vacationing on a luxurious yacht in tahiti. barack obama today admitting his youthful idealism. >> there is not a liberal 34erk and a conservative america. there is the united states of america. >> reporter: was too optimistic. >> there's a lot more that people have in common thandie vids them. but obviously it's not true when it comes to our politics. >> former aids say mr. obama wants to avoid criticizing president trump the way george w. bush refused to criticize him. that is frustrating some democratic activisti activistings. >> thank you. >>> there's new information tonight on a pair of incidents o

. >> have you seen any evidence that president obama wiretapped president trump? >> no, ma'am, not in the specific way in which you framed the question, no. >> and you say you're coming up to see the documents. is there any reason -- i mean, it sort of seems like chairman nunes and congressman schiff have been talking about the documents for about ten days. is there any reason why the house committee hasn't seen these documents? >> well, let me say this up front, greta. i could have used adam schiff's help two years ago getting documents from a different white house. so, i applaud him for finally coming to the full realization that you need documents to be able to conduct an investigation. i fully expect this white house to provide all documents that are not otherwise legally protected. i have no reason to believe they will not. and i think those documents will be provided in time for us to conduct the most folsom interviews necessary. i smile a little bit at the irony of congressman schiff complaining about a white house that won't produce documents. i swear i co

one, he started a few weeks ago with that tweet saying, look, president obama wiretapped me, presidentbama wiretapped trump tower. >> right. >> very specific allegation there with no evidence to back that up. now saying susan rice committed a crime. in between, i will say when you look at the reporting this week about susan rice, i do think there are some questions there that maybe are worth looking into a little bit. did she share the information with anybody, why do weeks earlier when she was asked about this did it sound like shooee'd never heard of it before? apparently it was something she was familiar with. seems like donald trump makes it impossible to go down that road and have that conversation because he puts out these statements here that are so shocking. >> well, look, steve, it is concerning that people are unmasked -- look, unmasking, itits, is not a crime if the proper people do it and intelligence agencies release or give someone like susan rice, national security adviser, she certainly has a right to see that information. the question is her motive and the question tha

and he also refuted trump's claim that then president obama had him wiretapped. more on this, it's time for "a closer look." ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: the hearing today only added to the ongoing chaos in the trump white house. in fact, even on simple scheduling issues, the trump white house has been disorganized. for example, on friday, trump bragged that he was holding a major meeting on veterans issues at mar-a-lago with his veterans affairs secretary david shulkin sitting directly to his left. you would assume that a major v.a. meeting would involve the v.a. secretary, but watch shulkin's face when trump asks him if he's going to be at the meeting. >> we're having a meeting tonight at what we call affectionately the southern white house. seems to be the most convenient location. everybody always wants to go to the southern white house. so, are you going to be at that meeting? you heard about it right? it's gonna be great. [ laughter ] >> seth: he shakes -- he shakes his head like a tourist who gets called out at a stand up comedy show. "sir, where are

talking about russia, it is not winning. >> and to be clear, the trump alleged surveillance of obama wiretapping. >>> nothing. >> this is surveillance of foreign individuals, part of regular, legal collection where either u.s. citizens were discussed on the other end of the phone line. being on the other end of the phone line is not a bad thing of some of these conversations. that's not what the president alleges. even if it is true, it does not prove the president's claim because his claim has been disproved. >> which we would add the senate majority leader read in on things of this, he said yesterday that he has not seen any evidence. >> he and plenty other officials have said the same thing. >> everybody standby. there is a historic battle under way on capitol hill right now involving the united states supreme court, we'll update you on that when we come back. so i asked about tresiba®. ♪ tresiba® ready ♪ tresiba® is a once-daily, long-acting insulin that lasts even longer than 24 hours. i need to shave my a1c. ♪ tresiba® ready ♪ tresiba® works like my body's insulin. releases slow and steady

of those investigations involved the president's still unsubstantiated claims that president obama wiretapped trump tower. on tuesday the president pointed the finger at the former president's national security adviser susan rice, retweeting the link to a story, suggesting she may have unmasked the names of trump associates picked up during surveillance of foreign targets. >> the effort to ask for the identity of an american citizen is necessary to understand the importance of an intelligence report in some instances. >> white house press secretary sean spicer requested whether it was necessary. >> it depends on why they were asking and what they were trying to accomplish. >> reports have emerged that russian spies tried to recruit former campaign adviser carter page as an intelligence source three years before the campaign. >> i wouldn't be surprised after all of this is saud and done that some people end up in jail. >> white house insists the president has no relationship with page and did not collude with russia during the campaign. >> meanwhile vice president mike pence was back on capito

. >>> also breaking, president trump and his claim that president obama wiretapped trump tower beforeow, the new question tonight involving president obama's national security adviser, susan rice. did she ask for names? did she unmask them? members of the trump team caught up in surveillance by the u.s. what she is saying tonight. >>> the abc news investigation. former trump campaign adviser carter page. were russian spies actively trying to recruit him to work

point in time let's just remember what probably happened to begin the rumors about president obama wiretapping was the current president read something on breitbart, tweeted about it and now we're going to be paying for that. this is a two-pronged campaign of obstruction and distraction. again, we've got to get back to work. we have to follow the facts wherever they lead us. the american public has an absolute right to know what took place here. i have no idea what they're talking about in this latest round. but if it's anything like the first three or four swings at it, it hasn't worked. >> you mentioned the white house. you've said it's clear the white house doesn't want to move forward on this investigation an then after a hearing was cancelled this week, sean spicer said this yesterday. take a listen. >> if you actually stop for a second and realize what the president is doing, it's that he's saying do whatever you have to do to go up to make it clear what happened, take whatever precaution you want or however your legal counsel advises you. here you have a president who is telling mike fl

for the first cup of months you saw the president tweeting about obama wiretapping which wasn't true. even before he took office saying that the intelligence community was making a lot of stuff up about russia. they've backed out of those. whenever they try to elevate the issue they lose the fight. and now they're sort of doing typical damage control. it's a much more conventional approach. it may help them over -- >> although, it's worth noting that none of those times when they've escalated has been strategy. it's often because the president sun able to control his urge to fight back. so it's unclear whether he will ever get that control. >> and what is unusual about this damage control effort is that in a conventional white house, you would actually have the people who know something about this and have access to the information go back and try to recreate -- what actually did happen? what can we say? what is reality and what is not? that's not happening here. they just want to push this away. it's unclear how long that's going to be able to be possible. robert: we'll be watching.

deliberately not mentioning trump, ignoring the president's explosive twitter accusation that obama wiretapped him, and his other slams. >> i inherited a mess. >> reporter: why not fight back? >> while he certainly doesn't agree with a large number of the decisions that have been made, this is the outcome of the election. >> reporter: when they left washington, the obamas said they would be dropping out for awhile. >> first, we'll take a little break. >> reporter: spending the past month kite surfing, vie caacations on a yacht in to hahiti and michelle obama tweeting pure romance. >> there is not a liberal america and conservative america. there is the united states of america. >> reporter: was too optimistic. >> there is a lot more that people have in common than divides them but obviously, it's not true when it comes to our politics. >> reporter: former aids say that mr. obama wants to avoid criticizing president trump, the way george w. bush refused to criticize him. although that is frustrating some democratic activists, lester? >> andrea mitchell, thank you. >>> there is new information a

of those investigations involved the president's still unsubstantiated claims that president obama wiretapped trump tower, on tuesday, the president pointed the finger at former president's national security advisor susan rice re tweeting the link to a story suggest ago this she may have unmasked the names of trump associates pick up during surveillance of foreign targets. >> in an effort to ask for identity of american citizens, it is necessary to understand the importance of a intelligence report, in some instances. >> reporter: white house press secretary sean spicer whether rice's motivation was political. >> it depend on the purpose of why they were asking and what they were trying to accomplish >> reporter: as investigation continues, reports emerged that russian spy tried to recruit former trump campaign advisor carter page, as an intelligence source, three years before the campaign. >> i wouldn't be surprised if all of this has been done that some people end up in jail. >> reporter: white house insists that the president has in relationship with page, and , did not included with russi

president trump accusing president obama of wiretapping. then the chairman of the house intelligence committee and aide open a new charge of surveillance, also discredited. now the former national security advisor is accused of unmasking trump intercepts. susan rice for the first time here on msnbc. >>> i'm andrea mitchell in washington where the former national security advisor, susan rice, is being accused of unmasking aids -- the basic charge, political spying. she joins me for her first public comments on these news stories. >> hi, good to be with you. >> hello, this is a fire storm involved with the whole question of the russian investigation and the response by president trump, anow the accusatio ain you. how do you respond? >> this is not anything political that has been alleged. the allegationed is the obama administration -- i was the national security advisor. my job is to protect the american people and the security of our country. that's the same as the secretary of state, the secretary of defense, the cia director, and every mo

-- president obama wiretapping him.rying to pull this into that direction, having to do with unmasking perhaps done by -- carol: so it is unusual for the head of the committee to go to the white house and briefed the president and not numbers of the committee? matt: it raises all kinds of questions about who he is serving. is he serving as a member of congress, is elected by his constituents, or is he serving executives? it is the premise of the separation of powers. carol: this makes the senate committee investigation that much more important. matt: that is the main act. the two chairman, the chairman is richard burr, of north carolina. the democratic cochairman is mark warner. they have what seems to be a pretty good relationship. they have been out front, saying we want to be as transparent as possible. thoughts that this was going to wrap up of my summer or so but those thoughts are long gone. this is going to take months and months. we are not going to have any report before the end of the year, if that what is int

spicer said that by wiretapping, he meant surveilled and by surveilled, not necessarily of trump tower, but were some of these communications swept up in other communications that the obama administration may have been monitoring. and so the developments in recent weeks have put a little bit of meat on those bones. the president himself saying, look, i put the term wiretapping in quotes. so i think he was talking about the broader surveillance. but nonetheless, this is the trump administration's pushback to what they think has been unfair coverage when it comes to the investigation into what may or may not have been russian interference in the u.s. election, katie. >> certainly the white house is hoping to frame it. kasie hunt, susan rice is a lightning rod in her own right and a unifying force for the republican party, but not in a good way. is this serving the same way, her testimony or her interviews after benghazi did to help unify the republican party did on capitol hill? >> well, katie, i do think that this is giving them a point to rally around, yes. we have not seen, necessarily, a lot of your traditional national security hawks rallying around the president on t

mitch mcconnell just this morning said no, he's seen no evidence that the obama administration wiretappeder. and yet the white house has been consumed by this at terrific cost to other things. >> dickerson: interesting to hear ambassador haley say it's just washington chatter, but they have spent a month trying to deal with that chatter. would you put into context this question about masking, since you know this so well, what do we keep our eye on in terms of trying to figure out... >> so under existing surveillance orders, the united states is listening to all kinds of diplomats. intelligence officials around the world under various authorities. and when that collection picks up incidentally the names of americans, joe russia happens to be calling joe america, joe america's name is masked so that person's privacy is protected. in certain circumstances when it's necessary to understand who the conversation is between, the name is unmasked and then it's a legal investigation beyond that. there are even more reasons. what's happened this month is that what initially seemed a preposterous ar

investigators are also examining president trump's unsubstantiated claim that president obama wiretapped. and now, calls among republicans for president obama's national security adviser susan rice to testify. at issue, her request to name trump associates caught in surveillance with foreign officials. that surveillance is routine and when americans are caught speaking with foreign nationals their names are masked. she maintains she never revealed the names publicly. rich edison, fox news. >>> now to a developing story out of wisconsin. a man hunt is underway for a 32- year-old man wanted for sending a 161 page manifesto to president trump and making threats against poll politicians and schools. it showed joseph's malcontent with the police. >> were it not for the secure holster of the officer, he would have disarmed that police officer. for that crime, he was sent to prison. >> authorities believe he is still in the area attempting to wait out police. >>> police in the south bay are investigating an early morning stabbing and shooting at a bowling alley. san jose police were called to t

>> well, let's go back to the tweet that the president let out about the obama administration theoretical wiretaps example of how a president is able to use his pulpit and his mega phone to detract from what everybody else is saying. there's no evidence of president obama doing any wiretaps. what there is is strong evidence of russia having interfered in our election. not necessarily in the voting directly. but certainly in the spreading of information and what we now call hybrid warfare. lots of testimony in the senate and people testifying even this week. there is a former fbi investigator who talked in quite detail about russian efforts in the united states and we're seeing evidence of russia interference in russia and france. so this is a national security threat that unfortunately this administration is looking at through a partisan lens. >> turning to next week. he will host the chinese president and his wife at mar mar-a-lago. he said we can no longer have trade deficits and job losses. that americans must be looking at other alternatives. is this his chance to long more presidential? >> ce

can you make out a great case that president obama wiretapped mr. trump's phones prior to the election. >> we don't have any information that support those tweets. lou: you know, the president put quotes around that, and i think a plain spoken person and i'm sure the f.b.i. director can do that if pushed, would understand what he was saying. it turns out that they were. and both the director of the nsa and the f.b.i. had to know it. >> i think they had to know. the president was right in making these charges. a lot of people poo-pooed it. but at the end of the day rice basically lied about this. the f.b.i. director misled the country. he knew what was going on. the reality is the country has to get to know what goes on here. and you have to know the motive. and did president trump play any role in this. i can't imagine susan rice was doing this on her own. what did she do after she got the information? did she disclose it? lou: did they have surveillance of senator bernie sanders as well? where did it end? why aren't there answer to the questions li

that includes voter fraud, president obama wiretapping his phones. i mean, he has said a lot of things that are not true. a lot of things that are not true. so it doesn't seem like your argument holds water in that respectful. >> let's wait six to 12 months. th of those issues will have been more fully explored. >> do you think there was voter fraud? massive voting fraud? that he would have won the popularer vote without this voting fraud? >> i'm not familiar with evidence that would support that to the degree it has been clald. has there been voting fraud, definitely. and i can give exam wills, one example, the state of alabama was forced to disregard our voting policy that's required proof of citizenship before we could register to vote in the state of alabama. that was done by a federal court in the washington, d.c. area, and because of that, that inhibited our ability to limit our elections to american citizens. how many was it? i don't know. but it opened the doors very, very broadly. not only alabama but other states for registrations to vote b

and trump associates into the realm of looking at the allegations trump willabout president obama wiretapping is trying to pull this into dot direction, having to with unmasking perhaps done by -- >> it is unusual for the head of a committee to go to the white house and brief the president and not leave members of the committee. >> it raises all kinds of questions about who he is serving. is he serving as a member of congress? or is he serving executives? >> this makes the senate committee investigation that much more important. thehe two chairman, chairman is richard burr, of north carolina. is democratic cochairman mark warner. they have a pretty good relationship. they have been out front saying they want to be as transparent as possible. they thought this was going to wrap up of my summer or so but those thoughts are long gone. this is going to take months and months. we are not going to have any report before the end of the year. what is interesting, their ability to access this raw intelligence that exists within the cia is very limited. every day, the senate investigators, we have abou

trying to pull this investigation into the realm of looking at the allegations that president obama wiretappedo pull that into this. it is unusual for the head of the committee to go to the white house. >> and mrs. al qaeda questions about who he is serving. elected by his constituents or serving the executives? the to chairman there, democratic cochair is mark warner. they thought this would wrap up by summer or so. this is going to take months and months. we will not have any sort of report before the end of the year. is theirnteresting ability to access this raw intelligence that exist inside the cia. it is very limited. every day, the senate investigators, they have seven staffers that work for this committee. every day, they go into the cia to go to a secure room and go through binders. isory thick binders of what probably some of the most secret information that exists inside the country's intelligence committee. they can bring no electronic devices into this room. they are literally going through hard documents. reading them takes months and months. they are negotiating with the cia. th

obama wiretapping claims one of the topics dominating their rundown. by comparison coverage of president trump at this point in this administration, 53% positive. you see you the difference. joining me now to discuss the latest on the obama spying scandal and the deep state efforts to subvert this president and his administration, john sullivan. i want to get your reaction to the media research center's reporting. that's staggering, suffocating negativity on the part of the national left-wing media directed at this administration. >> it reflects something i talk about when i go to journalism schools. too much picking sides and trying to create outcomes. i think that study is a reflection of a larger cancer in our profession. we are more interested in the outcome. we picked half an audience and i don't think that's good in the world we live in today. lou: it's a strange era we entered. we have gone from the biased left-wing media to a committed complicit left-wing media, and it's a breathtaking difference in that evolution. >> all sides of the political

>> still in is zero evidence that the president was wiretapped or that president obama ordered him be surveilled and also, anderson, i'll just say, the president, president trump, he holds these records, he can declassify them. and i think it's very, very telling that he hasn't and i don't believe he will. >> when will you see the actual documents? >> sooner rather than later, but we're going to continue this investigation, as i said there's witnesses to interview and other evidence to review, whether they put up hurdles or not, we're going to make it to the finish line. >> why do you think the president would not declassify the documents that you were briefed on? >> if someone has information that can help them, they will show that information, and right now this is just nothing more than a distraction, i think it's a foolish one, because, again, we're going to get back on track on this investigation, and we're going to continue to learn more about donald trump and his team's ties converging with russia's interference. we're not relenting and this isn't going to stop us. >> do you ha

when he tweeted that brock obama wiretap me at trump tower and it's like watergate do you think he was thinking he was unmasking people. it seems like over the last few weeks the white house has been pummeling around in the dark and searching of justification for these tweets there were totally erroneous and my question has always been, i does the president withdraw the tweet, retract the accusation. we just have not gotten to that.yet. the question iswhy can't the facts on the conservative side of the media see the facts as they are question art. >> the president was not wiretapped by barack obama. >> there's a certain element of truth that comes from his tweets. he was basing his tweets. >> were not talking about an element. how about the truth ? why can't we have the truth? [applause] as much as people want to beat up on cnn and go after cnn which your readers do in your side of the aisle does. i was with steve bannon and he revert to us as the opposition party, were not not the opposition party. were trying to get at the truth. when you have a side of the news media that insists ti

i would argue, and people in the media have jumped on president trump's claim that president obama wiretapped him, i would argue that the capabilities that any administration has to spy on other people, even if considered legal, are just as egregious as what the president alleged on twitter. >> there is a reason the constitution didn't trust this power in the hands of one person. there is the reason the constitution says if you want a search warrant, which is what a warrant for surveillance is. you have to show evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the person being searched. one is to protect the privacy of us who have nothing to do with it. two, is to force the government to focus on people as to whom there evidence is of wrongdoing. when the government doesn't do that, then we have san bernardinos and orlando mass killings, because the government has too much evidence to sift through. >> absolutely right. too much information, there's too much power. so susan rice, obviously, no longer the national security adviser, what happens to her now? >> i think the fbi the expect her, i would expect