amend it -- >> ridiculous right wingers -- >> you just compared obama care to medicare. now you say it's one of the most popular. popular. popular. 200 -- there could be $200 billion of fraud in medicare. $200 billion. >> sure -- >> we should do more of that? >> try to take away medicare. >> i'm not saying -- pointing out, once you give someone something, you can't take it back. >> you're basically a junky. drug dealer. you're a drug dealer. >> has been called worst. >> you're saying, here it is, we know you're going to like it. you're never going to get rid of it. sadly, we live in a society where that's true. i didn't mean to call you a young junky. >> let's give bob a little bit more tough medicine to swallow. on a friday. let's talk about the cleveland clinic. he said there's no examples this is hurting anybody, nobody's losing any jobs. this is president obama talking about and praising the cleveland clinic when, now, the news just came out they're going to cut jobs, slash 5% of its $6 billion annual budget to prepare for president barack obama's obama care. >> part

you are not going do do it through obama care. has to be done in a smaller more efficient effective way. >> christie? >> for once i can agree with katie on one thing before obama care a lot of people agreed our healthcare system needed fixing. that's why when you see some of these holes that see majority of people don't like obama care is a lot of people think they did not do enough. there are people who think we should do more than health insurance reform. >> obama care extended the problems winot the solution. the er myth everybody can get an insurance card you can go to the er. first of all the hospital gets paid less because the insurance they are taking like medicare is reimbursing less. studies show people use the emergency room unnecessarily when though have that kind of insurance. we are clogging the er with people who don't need to go there. the er cans are -- >> this already goes on without obama care. >> 10 percent less because people with obama care can't get in toen seen. >> the reason we have these problems are things

that in washington you will hear grave doubts about whether this is a man trying to fool president obama. you are already hearing because as you know we're in the midst of a big budget showdown here with the government may be shutting down on tuesday. so from republicans we're hearing a lot of well, gee, he'll negotiate with the president of iran but he won't negotiate with republicans. so that was sort of the immediate reaction. there's a great deal of caution. certainly you don't want to tamp on the hope but there are a lot of folks saying, let's see what happens next. >> david, you worked in the white house for what, four presidents. and there were obviously not good relations with at least three of those presidents, next

i could not have said it better myself state senator obama you know you should really sit down and talk to the president. the the bleep it was a. very large atlanta lightly yet or how exactly would that hurt there. was. such. little. sleep. little.

i don't know that. >> you have 67 votes to delay or defund obama care. that's what you would need to override president obama's veto. >> you need 60. it's a dynamic process. i believe the president will wake up and say i guess i better represent the american people. the president himself has taken fully a third of his single piece of legislation and said it's not ready for prime time. he told employers don't worry about it, it's not anything you have to worry about. why not do the same thing for the american people. >> what do you say to critics who say house republicans act as if they were' in an alternative universe. you're trying to pass things that the president, who was reelected, opposes and that the democrats in the senate who have the majority oppose. >> 22 democrats in the united states house of representatives supported, voted for, a one-year delay of the individual mandate. 35 voted for a one year delay of the employer mandate. this is a bipartisan issue. >> that's the house. i just talked about the senate and the white house, though. >> 79 ind

you do it? >> and president obama has no problem printing money. >> absolutely. >> what do you think the goal of republicans are? because of course there's two issues. funding the government. that involves the defunding of obama care. but also raising the debt ceiling. >> i think their goal is to do what they said they're going to do or which is stop obama care on both fronts. now the goal is going to be which actually has been the goal for a long time, is to get some concession on the individual mandate or on the delay when it companies to -- or on the exemption that congress gets from obama care. going back to what president obama was saying real quickly, i want to compare how long the phone call that president obama made to john boehner last week was to the phone call that he made to the iranian president. i'm wondering which one was longer. it's funny that -- and the same statement he made when he's talking about republicans and the iranians, he's talking to republicans through the television. he said, if any of you are watching this, you need to think about who you're hurting. so instead of

you don't agree that obama care is worse than slavery, do you?he emotions are very high right now. i'm not excusing what he said, but it makes sense that people make statements that they don't believe out of just emotional fury and because of what's going on. >> i mean, i just have to say, i feel like, you know, you have a major political party that has some responsibility here. there's been a lot of fear that's been whipped up about this bill. frankly it is weird to me, because a lot of stuff, these are republican ideas, but don't you think that on your side when people do get out of line like this, listen, that's not appropriate? i didn't hear anybody say that's inappropriate. >> that's the first time i'm seeing it independents and the president called attention to another state legislator who literally said it was the same as the fugitive slave act. that's wrong, don't you agree with me? >> first of all, unless you have experienced or looked at it or studied it, you can't imagine how bad slavery was for several hundred years, how balance legal

just an inch. >> i'm telling you that president obama is the president. s eligible to be president, then cruz is. >> you brought this up. >> what better answer that i can give you than yes. >> was he legitimate like the president? >> that was determined before i got here. >> when does congress get to determine whether the president meets the standards of being a natural born citizen. it's going to be a vote in congress between now and 2016 when -- >> when the congress accepts the electoral votes. that's when it would have been timely to raise. >> what would you have done? >> listen -- >> why are you afraid of this? >> i'm not afraid of it at all. >> is he a natural born citizen? >> i have said ted cruz is as eligible to be president as -- >> this is the problem with your party. it's so far in the wacko bird. what's wrong with saying barack obama is a natural born citizen and eligible for president. >> i'm saying president obama is president. what else is there to say than that? we're nitpicking over words here. >> you were playing a game, once again, of tr

>> get rid of obama and do everything you can to blowout the door. let's do everything we can to get rid of obama. let's make this another bash obama segment. >> okay. we can invest in more programs like sylindra. >> when president obama took over gas was $1.93. joy he said -- >> i know when he graduated high school now. >> where is nancy pelosi with her press conferences in front of the gas stations demanding he do something. i remember she did that with president bush and now she is silent. when you have the cost of everything go up guess who it hurts? the middle class. >> let's impeach obama and get the dogs out of the white house and get some right wing whaco nut in there. >> i wouldn't go that far, but improve a pipeline here and there. >> get some jobs. >> might be nice. >> just impeach him. we should impeach this whole segment. >> too late because it is done. >> you will hear from our producers, you shouldn't be dumping on your own show. well i am. >> you just said that out loud. >> all righty. thanks for your questions. >> oh fun, facebook fri

why are you not happy with obama care? why won't you take yes for an answer? the heritage foundation said we should go with the individual mandate. romney put it into effect. why? >> it's hurting ployment. full-time jobs are not growing at the rate they should be growing. if it's so great, how come the president is postponing and delaying and getting rid of parts of it. why won't catering to business business, you were on the obama administration, you objected to some of the chronnyism. >> let's talk bush. >> the big business shows up at the white house, yes, okay, we'll delay it. little people? not so interested. >> 91% of the job growth has come into place has been full-time employment, not part-time employment. let's talk about the exception that we're making on the business side. don't you think it's responsible for us to implement this thing in a responsible way to respond to some of these concerns? >> the exchanges has not been texted for security and privacy. >> that's not true. >> it is true. the common-sense legislation said let's delay them until out

the question is, are you willing to shut the government down on the basis of funding or not funding obamathe president that same question? >> the president is not my guest tonight. you are, congressman. i'll be glad to ask him. would you, would you vote to shut the government down if obama care was going to be funded? >> i would be looking forward to voting to keep every single part of the federal government open except obama care. >> so if you therefore failed to defund obama care, you would shut it down. let me show you something that the senator from your own state of south carolina lindsey graham said on the consequences of doing that. watch this. he says as much as i want to get rid of obama care, i'm not going to deny security payments to our seniors or funding to our military. so he, answering the same kind of question, said different from you. he's not willing to shut the government down because he's caring about the social security of seniors and he cares about our military. >> and so do i. and i assume the president does as well. so if we pass something out of the house that fun

. >> you don't shut down obama care by shutting down the government. you do disrupt the economy. >> we will see you here back at the top of the hour. "your money" starts right now. >>> obama care. it is the biggest change to your relationship with the government in your lifetime. guess what? that government could be shutdown say midnight monday. i'm christine romans. this is "your money." there is confusion with the law, but congress is adding to it. fact, a government shutdown will not stop obama care. it is funded through taxes and fees and mandatory spending. fact, the pseudo filibuster by ted cruz, was never going to stop obama care. fact, obama care doesn't start on october 1st. this law has been on the books for more than three years. if you had a mammogram that did not cost you a dime out of pocket, that is obama care. if you have a kid on your insurance and graduated college, that is obama care. fact. with an undertaking this large, there will be surprises both positive and negative. we don't know if the affordable care act will destroy jobs or

you want to call me afterwards. i'm ready. the president's not going to give up on obama care. ngressman fattah, if you want give bookie advice here. what do you think the odds are the president of the united states will give up on the one sure thing that will get him in the history books, obama care, 40,000-some people waiting in the emergency room right now, your thoughts? >> there's not a person in the country except for people who are drinking this tea party tea who believes that the president is going to walk away from obama care. it's not going to happen. >> thank you for coming on friday late in the afternoon, thanks for sticking around. congressman luke messer of indiana and congressman chaka fattah. [ male announcer ] this is brad. his day of coaching begins with knee pain, when... [ man ] hey, brad, want to trade the all-day relief of two aleve for six tylenol? what's the catch? there's no catch. you want me to give up my two aleve for six tylenol? no. for my knee pain, nothing beats my aleve. so, i'm working on a cistern intake valve, and the guy hands me a locknut wr

after you lose that, then a simple majority could eliminate obama care. are you going to allow consideration of the bill, have an up or down vote on defunding obama care or are you going to block them from even taking up a bill which you support? >> well, the first order of business is going to ask harry reid whether he will allow a 60-vote threshold. we have a lot of amendments that are subject to 60-vote thresholds. in all likelihood he's going to say no because he wants to use brute force exactly the same way he passed the bill three years ago. if he does that, we have the tool that we always use when the majority leader is abusing his power, which is we can deny. we will not allow you to add the funding back with obama care with just 51 votes. >> sir, if i may, it's senate rule it22 and it says after you take cloature that you can pass a bill by minimum majority. that's a rule. >> chris, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. there is that rule but there's another rule that says you need 60 votes to get cloture. because the my nortif the min

you might say that obama care is not popular. you know what's really not popular? shutting down america's government. that's not popular. are you willing to shut down america's government, stop military families from getting their paychecks, shut down $71 million of projects in your own district to get your own way on this? >> have you texted the president. he said tomorrow we're going to do exactly the opposite m the media wants to telegraph to the american people that somehow one political party wants to shut down government. that's the last thing we're going to do. we're going to fully fund the government. every effort we have is to fully fund the government. we're also listening to the american people. they want jobs, higher paying jobs, higher benefit packages. that's not right wing michele bachmann. that's james hoffa of the teamsters union who's saying obama care is breaking the bank and it's breaking the back of the 40 hour workweek and getting rid of benefit work packages. ask everyone in mine and charlie's districts. 29 1/2 hours is a full-time job? it's

you have no ability to stop obama care. it is not going to happen. so what is the end game? the end game, partially, we don't see a government shutdown, 25% of them are basically broke on the cloture vote. you basically see guys like corker who are going to go down in this as keeping the sanity. it will be important to see how it is executed throughout the states. you have 17 exchanges that will be up and running on tuesday, we created the first one in utah that has 240 individual policies to be accessed. 300 small businesses are ready to buy into it. i think it will be an important experience, we move into the problem of jobs and economics. does it work or not? >> you can't just say politics on the side, or have a debate, or the policy implementation because this is about politics. and i don't -- some may see it as petty politics, but i think the congress would say look, we want to keep it alive until 2014, and 16, there are political means to overturning this, they just haven't achieved it yet. >> i think it will continue, i am not as sublime as you. the difference is in a

do you think the world he sees president obama as a strong leader? >> absolutely. >> bill: do you? >> if you listen to the bbc they absolutely do. >> bill: if you listen to the bbc? >> yes. >> bill: the bbc. >> al jazeera and bbc and other world outlets. >> bill: al jazeera thinks is he strong. >> absolutely. i listen to all these world outlets. >> bill: i don't get a lot of al jazeera in here. >> i read the dutch newspaper. >> bill: we will go with the dutch. i like the dutch. i love cheese. >> i get around. >> bill: plenty more as the factor moves along this evening. what is the role of a good father. billie ray cyrus sticking up for mile little after her worldwide exposition. gutfeld and mcguirk weighing in on that. miss america the victim of racist tweets. >> bill: factor follow up segment tonight. you may remember the sad show that singer miley cyrus put on at the ntv awards of the 21-year-old miley riffed around with older singer ethic. scorched in the court of public opinion but not by her father. speaking last night on cnn. billie ray sirus cyrus. >> miley mored into someth

you want this obama care fight? well, guess what. you got it. today president obama hammered away at the far right fear mongere mongerers. he was unleashed. he was tough. and he went right after their distortions and lies. cutting them down with a remarkable display of sarcasm. >> they have made such a big political issue out of this trying to scare everybody with lies about death panels and killing granny. one of the biggest newspapers in the country recently published an editorial that said the republicans in congress are poisoning obama care then trying to claim it's sick. one more that i've heard, i like this one. we have to -- and i'm quoting here -- we have to repeal this failure before it literally kills women, kills children, kills senior citizens. now, i have to say that one was from six months ago. i just want to point out we still have women. we still have children. we still have senior citizens. all this would be funny if it wasn't so crazy. >> yes, it would be funny if it wasn't so crazy. then he called the right wing billionaire koc

you miss him, too. (laughter) that manu how to sell a war. obama has hard evidence of weapons of mass destruction and he can't even get england to go along with it. meanwhile, president bush gotten a international coalition with nothing more than colin powell's reputation and half a test tube of crystal light. (laughter) you want to hear some war marketing? bush had us hanging on every word because by the next word he might all be dead. (laughter) jim? >> saddam hussein is a homicidal dictator who is addicted to weapons of mass destruction. ing a seusz of evil. 50 tons of mustard gas and a turkey farm. mobile biological weapons labs. significant quantities of uranium. the regime seeking a nuclear bomb. the smoking gun. it could come in the form of a mushroom cloud. >> god i love being lied to by a professional! (laughter) you can feel the hand craftsmanship so president obama, you could learn a thing or two about salesmanship from this good man! stop asking our permission and start telling us our perel, like this: my fellow americans, bashar al-ass

if you lose that, then a simple majority could take out obama care. so are you going to have a consideration of the bill, a vote up or down, or let them vote to block a bill that you support. >> first we will ask harry reid if had will allow amendmented to be subject to 60-vote threshold. in all likelihood will will say no because he wanted to force funding through with democrats. he does that even senate republicans have the tool that we always used when the majority leader is becausing his power. we can filibuster and say we will not allow use to add the funding back for obama care with just 51 votes. >> if i may, you say this is brute political power, it's senate rule 22 that has been around for years. it says you say allow debate, that you can pass an amendment by a simple majority, that's the rule. >> what's good for the rule, it's good for the gander. and that's the reason that the senate, generally on controversial votes, we work out an agreement for it to be subject to a 60 vote threshold. if the majority is going to run the minority over with

you can buy books about impeaching president obama and bumper stickers impeaching him. you can buy a bumper sticker telling people to honk, turn their car lights on for impeachment. you can buy an impeach obama magnetic bumper sticker. quote, do not be afraid to assert your opinion bumper sticker. none of that will get president obama impeached. not the bumper sticker, the magnetic ones either. but that is how that works in the conservative movement. find a fear, preferably one that doesn't make sense, say you will do something about it. and because people don't know quite what they're afraid of and they have this desire, they might just believe you. so convince them you can put a donation button and fix it. and now it is happening again. this is the website for freedom works, "end obama care" with your generous donations. and the conservative fund, do not fund obama, fund us. the liberation fund is standing by to de-fund obama care as soon as you send them money. over at heritage america, the jim demint fund, you, you can ensure that obama care is de-funded. find out ho

as much as you may hate obama care, you just can't kill it when you have a democratic president and aemocratic senate. >> finally, the president yesterday said it's not going to happen, as you say. >> right, and first of all, it's not going to get passed by the senate, and if it did, it wouldn't be passed -- i mean, he wouldn't be vetoed by the president. you know, the question is, is it worth getting into a fight you're going to have to back down from? there's an awful lot of republicans who say no, and they're kind of mad at ted cruz for putting a lot of pressure on them. having said that, ted cruz says that's the problem with washington. people, you know, listen to all this stuff. they don't listen to the grassroots. the grassroots don't want obama care and we have to do everything we can. he's suggesting, you know hot the house should do? they should fund each little, for instance, the pentagon by itself and say to the president, are you willing to kill that? >> amazing. chris, looking forward to it. you also sit down with democratic senator claire mccaskill of missouri. fascinati

you can't overlook? >> go ahead. >> the 2012 election. obama care. god's sake, the american people -- the american -- they did awful. >> they did awful until the bill was passed. >> the american people reelected this president. let me point a scenario out to you. >> i have to go. hurry up. >> what about the -- what if they demanded, instead of getting rid of obama care, for the president to step down. >> that's ridiculous. we are not asking for that. >> it is equal. >> we have to go. ben, you wouldn't want the president to step down? >> no. i want him to finish out the term because he's elected president. i respect the voters and who they pick. >> you respect the voters. stop telling the voters you are going to shut down their government if you respect them so much. >> exactly. >> ben. all right. thank you. i listen. i am not on either side. it's frustrating. the people at home are upset. i'm not. i think it's ridiculous. i think it's ridiculous that people are threatening to hold the american people hostage over something because they are mad at some

do you expect that to happen because if it doesn't, it really will damage obama's position. >> you can well as i can. you have seen the numbers, they don't look good for the president. certainly not in the house, but conceivably not even in the senate. the support he had in the senate actually seems to be eroding as this process goes on. so clearly, you know, it doesn't look good. there's a way to go. we know there won't be any votes here. we don't know if there will be any vote at all. if this russian initiative manages to bear fruit. but right at the moment, you talk to people in washington and in the white house, they're not optimism. >> did he bungle that? should he have gone ahead and make the bombing mission two weekends ago? >> he found himself without it in friends or allies. he had -- you know, i think that was clearly the plan and once they decided that this chemical weapons attack had occurred on the 21st of august, this is what they thought they'd do. >> doesn't have any friends now. he's got the french. >> the french, yeah. >> actually, the french are causing russia some p

not the quality that obamacare is about fairness and social justice have nothing to do with you with the obama agenda you are the oppressor. >> guest: right. his job is not to help anyone his goal is only to help these voters that is why every book signing i do every speech there is a line for one of word to talk to me to sign box and every single person oh my god i have been waiting so long. i am a business owner. they're all small business owners be put in the hours working 16 hours per day, three had to 65 days a year i worked my birthday, christmas, holidays , then obama spits in my face to say i did not build the. who was there 16 hours a day? the mafia wants me to work all day then they expect half. there organized crime they want me to walk away with a smile? the whole thing is a criminal conspiracy now they put the irs on the us after we have already given them 50% even though we work 16 hours per day it is a ponzi scheme one great big ponzi scheme run by that can be no crime family and i apologize to insult them to compare them to obama. >> host: what is your day job? >> business spee

i asked you if there are any safeguards currently in place regarding the implementation of obama care you can champion? >> from my perspective, no. and i would suggest that that's something that absolutely needs to be looked at by both parties in congress and i think they will look at it. >> okay, a lot to be reviewed between now and october 1st. and shane, i do appreciate your perspective this sunday morning. good to see you. >> eric? >> taking antibiotics. we shouldn't take them too often, but n proof. it's a groundbreaking cdc report on infections that are resistant to antibiotics. coming up, the doctors will fill us in on this looming fear. >> plus, a high-stakes salvage operation about to take place on the high seas. the recovery of the "costa c concord concordia." at od, whatever business you're in, that's the business we're in. with premium service like one of the best on-time delivery records and a low claims ratio, we do whatever it takes to make your business our business. od. helping the world keep promises. ugh! actually progresso's soup has pretty bold flavor. i love bold

you moved the leadership in your direction on the defunding of obama care. okay. question is, what did you really win? in other words, you know the bill is dead in the water in the senate. and as president obama said once again today if it ever got through he will veto it. in other words, why do it if you know it's not going to ever pass anything? >> well, larry, the senate hasn't produced anything to keep the government open. this schaer reid's biggest nightmare for his democratic majority. they've take some votes they don't like. that's why he dislikes. obama care is unlikable, unaffordable. as days go by it becomes less popular. we have an opportunity in the house to say we're serious about defunding obama care. harry reid, is he going to shut the government down just for their one particular program they recognize is not work well. >> do you actually think -- i'm asking a serious question, when you do the vote count, i don't see how the republicans can win this. i don't see it. you tell me. i just don't think the votes are there. >> the question is, is the pres

what do you think of obama care? >> i don't quite understand it just like everybody else. i don't understand it. i don't understand it. it's not explainable to me. >> do you think you're going to have to read 1500 ages to understand it?. >> that ain't happening >> what do you think of ob yaum ka care? >> why. >> don't know enough about it. >> what do you think of obama care? >> not familiar enough witness to give an honest opinion. >> no wonder polls reflect disapproval of the landmark legislation. they don't want it. they don't like it. they can't afford it. it's a national joke. >> breaking bad has a final episode on sunday. and you know, it's a great show. isn't it? it's a story of a chemistry teacher in high school. and he has cancer and starts making meth to cover bills and previd for his family. as republicans call that a legitimate alternative to obama care. >> do you remember your sales pitch you promise obama care would lower premiums for families? by $2500. but no one would have to change their doctor, and that we can keep our current plans and that it will not hu