democrats trying to a extend the effects of obamacare here we have the director who sent obamacare create a disincentive for people to work. >> can you show me what he said it would have a negative impact on our economy? i did nothear that. i haven't seen that. he did say that some people might choose not to work. lou: cb director douglas eleanore couldn't be any clearer on the economy. here is a reminder for the minority leader. >> just to understand this, it is nothat employers are laying people off. it's that people are working in the work force and are not pplying labo to the equivalent of2.5 million jobs in 2024 and as a resul that lower workforce participation rate is less labor supplied and lowers the economic growth and. >> yes, that is right. lou: it's pretty simple. isn't that? and today, duke university study confirms what the cbo says. here is a portion ofwhat the survey of top company officials found. nearly half of u.s. companies are reluctant to hire full-time employees because of the affordable care act. the study goes on. one in five firms indicates that they are likely t

is there any goodness for this in obamacare?g this when the employer mandate kicks in that bigger companies will say that this will probably happen and they will hire part-time workers like a companies or scale back their benefits. so good news here and not so much for those who qualify for subsidies. but it's not the case across the board either. >> this is becoming redistribution without any question because we are looking at the lowest quintile of learners and they do get a legitimate increase in income. but the top 80% of earners in the country, this is redistribution $90,000 her feelings for failing for come you will get them a discount and then if you go over that cliff, you lose the quest and then why might be a disincentive to work. the white house is saying that workers on don't have the same jobs that they're not happy in any anymore. the law continues to be implemented. >> it is hard to imagine people cheering on the idea that they will not be part of the labor force. and those who are chronically unemployed and hopef

started the year thinking obamacare. all we have to do is say obamacare. but there's a debate in the party, maybe that's not quite enough. for example, you look at the polls, most people don't like obamacare but they don't want to repeal it, they want to fix its -- it. now republicans are saying we're going to present an alternative to obamacare. there's already one in the senate. the house leadership says they're working on one in the house. that's a problem because they keep dividing over it. the economy, david winston will tell you when they won in 2010 they won because of obamacare. actually, they won because of the economy. people didn't think obama was doing enough to get jobs back so they're trying to come up with a message on economy and finally, they're trying to shake loose om that image of being obstructionists. that image they got by shutting the government down last fall. >> one issue i thought they would pursue is immigration reform -- >> where did you get that idea? >> just last week then john boehner came out after their party retreat and s

implementation of obamacare, according to the c.b.o. from a report a couple of weeks ago, would reduce the number of workers in this country by 2.5 million over the next decade. it also said it would reduce by about 1% overall wages. so fewer jobs, lower take-home pay. and then last week we had the report coming out from the congressional budget office that raising the minimum wage could cost up to a million jobs. at the same time it is raising prices so the very people we're trying to help are going to have fewer jobs and higher costs. how does that solve the problems that our economy faces? how does that get people in this country back to work? how does that grow and expand our economy in a way that promotes greater opportunity for -- creates greater opportunity for middle-class families? mr. president, there are things that we can do on which there is broad bipartisan support that are known job creators, that are known to expand and grow our economy. and i would add to that list as well reforming our tax code, which we have lost so m

or required under obamacare. well, as that debate ensued, the message became clear that the white house was negotiating that the president was simply signing an executive order obamacare after it passed, after it passed and would fix the stupak version. that's the shorthand version. but any case, it was breathtaking to hear the president in the white house who believed he could sign an executive order to amend legislation after the legislation passed and announced to so to get the votes pass. that sounds like legal jibberish. the president, according to the press, promised he was going to amend obamacare with executive order and the stupak language would remain intact after it was stripped out in the senate and we ended up with obamacare that imposes funding of abortion in all but a very few cases, to give an example, here in the house of representatives, we are compeled to sign up for obamacare. if there was a way out of it, i would have found it. and there were 112 different programs to look at, and only nine o

so obamacare had nothing to do worry about. we learn that is not true. why?fferent from romneycare in the effect on the economy. lou: yeah. we don't have to get in to the weeds on this thing. the fact is, that the congressional budget office said straightforwardly that obamacare will result in a reduction in the rate of growth in compensation. in other words, it would be much higher had no affordable care act, and the jobs are going to be less than they were. i mean, -- >> and -- sorry. you speak to one person who said, you know, this is what i want. just go to the regular folks on the street. are you kidding? do i choose to work less? do i choose to have less of a job in do i choose to make less money and fewer hours? no. no. and no. >> i think there are some people who work because they in general they are older americans who work because they want to have health care. there's no question about that. i can't put a number on it. i don't believe the administration can either. it's the dick kens not 2.3 million. >> the political impact of this is going to be w

the obamacare bailout provision.the horrible thing passed by a republican congress, signed into law by george w. bush. >> right. the risk corridors in medicare part "d" don't last for three years. they're permanent. last forever in the program. they found in medicare part "d" risk corridors saved money for taxpayers. on average, insurers paid more to the government than the other way around. personally i'm skeptical we can extend from that into obamacare. i don't know whether the risk corridor program will save money or lose money. that's the whole point. it exists because we don't know how much it's going to cost to write these insurance policies. >> it's unlike the farm bill which just got signed which got passed today in which there's crop insurance subsidies which guarantee a floor to the income but no ceiling. right? this actually has a floor and a ceiling. we should just be very clear. it's not the farm subsidy. someone was attacking -- ovik roy. it is very different. other big news today. the big right wing ta

obamacare doesn't work. congressman ron barber supports obamacare.care is hurting arizona families, they deserve better. >> tell kay hagan she just doesn't get it. >> tell congressman braylee obamacare is hurting iowa families and we deserve better. >> joining me now, tucker carlson and joe trippi, joe, as somebody who advises people for a living in democratic campaigns, do you think the democrats are worried about this? >> of course they are. it is clear that this has hurt the president's credibility. hurt his numbers, dragged his favorability down. and that drags democrats down. it is the same regardless of who is president, if you have a president whose popularity has fallen whether it is about obamacare or something else. with bush it was the war in iraq. it doesn't matter. it drags the rest of the party down. and obamacare in particular is going to be one of the factors that hurts democrats. the problem still is, it doesn't all happen in a vacuum. this wouldn't be the only issue. republicans have blown opportunities to win the senate in the last

we can't just say obamacare is bad.e solutions. >> reporter: cink is campaigning on her support for obamacare while at the same time keeping what she says is a flawed program somewhat at arm's length. >> well, i wouldn't describe my position as having embraced obamacare. there are plenty of things that are wrong with the affordable care act, and let's get to work to fix them. >> reporter: there are other issues in this special election as well. sink's status at an outsider from a neighboring district, jolly's past is a lobbyist and sink's comments at a candidate's forum on tuesday on why immigration reform is important to florida's vast tourism industry. >> where are you going to get people to work to clean out the hotel rooms or do our landscaping? >> reporter: but analysts believe the race and the fortunes of the democratic party will turn on obamacare. >> the obamacare issue has become a surrogate for how they feel about washington. is it broken? can it be fixed. >> reporter: while the outcome of this special electio

it had nothing to do with obamacare.that maybe, maybe one to two million of those at most is new signups. not 6 million. and then there was this. >> so when i said you can keep your health care, i'm looking at folks who have employer-based health care. i'm looking at folks who have medicare and medicaid and that accounts for the vast majority of americans. >> but the new cbo report says that at least 6 million people will be losing their plans at work in the coming years. and even that number may be too low. duke university just released a report suggesting 44% of u.s. firms, 44% are considering cutting care to current workers. current workers. but the biggest problem for the president is this. >> if you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. >> if you like your doctor or health care provider, you can keep them. >> if you've got health insurance, you like your doctor, you like your plan, you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan. nobody is talking about taking that away from you. >> well,

but that is exactly what the director of the cbo says obamacare is doing. but that is not all of bad news contained in the report and also projects deficits will also increase at 1. 1 trillion and economic growth bluebead lower because of obamacare aaron to the cbo also projects interest payments will nearly quadruple over the next day when dash decade at almost 900 billion by 2020 for nearly $1 trillion most of that money goes to china. we have been reporting on these issues for years did deal with death of extensively from my book "upheaval" listened from the audio books remain as our debt increases so does the obligation choose china it has brought up a good portion of our debt. china holds more than $1 trillion of u.s. debt. this might be fine if china to raise sought to a partnership as some diluted believers -- leaders to believe that china does not want partnership it wants economic hegemony. lou: what are we to do? living within our means as a nation with fiscal policies and actions and with our families and what a brighter future we will create. yo

because i can't afford to continue to pay for obamacare. medicine and i don't get to see my doctors. >> reporter: one of the problems is that some drugs for ms don't have generics. patients could face huge personal bill, forcing some to skimp on their medications. >> when you're treating it for most people they handle it pretty well. if you don't treat it, it's the kind of disease that people end up in wheelchairs potentially. >> reporter: drugs not on the preferred list would also be more expensive. >> when you go outside that list you have to pay out-of-pocket. but you do get some co-insurance mining the plans will pay some of the cost of that. >> to be able too make sure that all the systems were operational in 2014, they realized they needed to give an extra year to get those systems changes in place. >> reporter: officials plan to try again next year. additional benefits will cost more, meaning premiums would have to rise or the networks of providers would shrink any further. >>> and now more controversy surrounding the president's sig

do you defund obamacare? there are a lot of disagreements within the republican party but they are on this generic ballot at least, out ahead of democrats. >> yeah. one thing in the poll -- jon: go ahead, nina. >> sorry. one of the things this poll i think shows is that obama's problems are largely papering over a lot of problems the republicans still have long term. 42% of republicans are worried about the future of their party. you've got these strong divisions within the party, largely on age lines. so you've got a majority of republicans under 45 support same-sex marriage, even though the party overall doesn't. so you've got these divisions i think that the party is really wrestling with as it looks to the future. jon: ron, 63% of those in this poll responding say that they think the country is on the wrong track. that is always a pivotal number in these polls, isn't it? that is about as bad as it gets in terms of the people's optimism or pessimism about the direction we're in. >> a couple of more numbers

obamacare. forget the cbo for a second. i know that there are several major companies saying, we will hire more part-timers and fewer overall workers. as an economist, can you back me up on that one? >> absolutely. everyone i know, every employer that hires below average wage workers, is doing exactly that. the cbo was talking about the supply side of the market. you're talking about the demand side, the employer side. if you combine those two effects, and when they add together, we have major, major job loss. >> jamie richardson, you're at white castle. tell me the impact on jobs at white castle of obamacare. >> stuart, from a white castle perspective, it's microeconomic because we sell small hamburgers. before the affordable care act was passed we have 416 restaurants. today we have 400. and we hear about up equality. there will be inequality of scheduling if congress doesn't act to restore 40 hours as part-time. >> i take it the workers at white castle don't feel they've been liberated as the

because they don't want to defend the obamacare, they're running from obamacare, and these groups are calling them out. >> they explicitly say they want the irs to crack down, on all of these groups they say. not just the conservatives, the 501(c)(3), and 4th, they want the irs to crack down on all of them. that is exactly what they were saying back in 2010 which led to, according to the inspector general, which led to the targeting of conservatives in the first place. >> no, that is exactly right. and now you have a new fox news poll that shows that 64% of the american people think the irs is corrupt. they're turning to the organization that is right now under criminal investigation although it has been leaked that they're not going to get charged. but they're under investigation and under that shadow they're turning to the irs to not only target these groups but to de-fund and silence them. it is unbelievable. >> it is happening again, and we heard chuck schumer, democratic senator chuck schumer, a couple of weeks ago being explicit in his calls for the irs to crack down on these gr

but that plan, because of obamacare, was canceled. she went on to say to me that another plan was going to cost more money, higher rates were coming for them. she went on to say -- and i'm quoting -- "i've not been shy about telling people that we lost our insurance plan, thanks to obamacare." unquote. i could add to that that she has lost her insurance plan and thousands of others, tens of thousands of others across of united states have because of the votes of the majority and the president. a nebraskan from hastings shared that her medicare advantage plan was discontinued and her new medicare advantage plan option was -- get this -- 357% more expensive. is that fair treatment to that senior citizen? you see, when obamacare was passed, we tried to get amendments done that if there was any savings in compare, it would go back to medicare to protect the system. shows were voted down by the majority. so what we ended up with is a situation where those funds were pulled out of medicare and used to finance obamacare. for millions of amer

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if you earn more, your subsidies go down under obamacare. if you go from 35,0$35,000 to $50,000 a year, when you add up the taxes, it can reach 50%. that's a mobility killer. job killer, mobility kilr, un-american. >> un-american. rich, the fact is that we already have not only the surveys, a lot of anecdotal evidence. the economisjust came out with a re focusing on individual job owners who are cutting back their staf their full-time staff, because of obamacare. >> yeah. that's absolutely true. the congressional budget office which is nonpartisan, esteemed by both parties, predicts that 2 million people will leave the labor force. i think when 2 million people decide to ave the labor force from an already abysmal labor participation raitt, that counts as job loss. we're going to be 61% labor force participation by 2017. that breaks all records on the downside. >> and, sabrina, it's not just the right wing fanatics who are sang this. >> no. >> the university of california at berkeley -- we used to call it berserkly in the old days. they're s

big picture conservatives across america especially at fox were outraged yesterday claiming that obamacare is going to cost our country over two million jobs where they get that information and what's the real story behind obamacare is economic impacts and believe it or not multimillionaires can get unemployment insurance fortunately the senate is trying to change that make sure that unemployment insurance is only for those who need it the most but we're probably going to go along with the plan that and more internet sloan liberal. you know this conservative heads exploding all across the country yesterday that's because the congressional budget office the c b o released a new report detailing some of the economic effects of obamacare the report projects that by twenty seven the number of hours worked in america. the number of hours the workers put in will decline by roughly the equivalent of two point three million people leaving the workplace thanks to obamacare course conservatives all across the media still were pointing to that projection as proof that obamacare is a failure in a job

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is exactly what the officer of the congressional budget office says obamacare is doing.t's not all of the bad news contained in the cbo report for this white house. the cbo ao projects the deficit will also increase to 1.1 trillion over the next decade and economic growth will be slower and lower because of oba obamacare. the cbo also projects our interest payments on the national debt will nearly quadruple over the next decade, from $233 billion this year to almost $900 billion by 2024. nearly a trillion dollars. most of the money will be going to china. i've been writing and reporting on these issues for years now. and i deal with them extensively in my new book "up heaval" lien to this excerpt from the audio book. >> as our debt increases so does our obligation to china. the people's republic has proactively and slyly bought up a good portion of our debt. china holds more than a trillion dollars of u.s. debt. this might all be fine if china truly sought a partnership with the united states as some deluded american business and polical leaders still believe but china d

the only problem is georgia republicans have done everything they can to make sure that obamacare won't help those people who live there that's because like republican lawmakers in twenty five other states across the country georgia republicans have blocked obamacare is medicaid expansion behind the idea behind obama care's medicaid expansion is really pretty simple states that except the expansion allow people earning as much as one hundred thirty three percent of the poverty line to enroll in medicaid in exchange the federal government pays one hundred percent of the cost of their health care for three years and ninety repeat ninety percent of that cost every year after that wherever are struggling rural health care providers like or lower okotie hospital medicaid expansion means the difference between staying open and shutting down is the albany herald recently pointed out in the article about lower okon is closing medicaid expansion helps rural hospitals by turning many of their uninsured patients into pain patients unfortunately georgia governor nathan deal and other peach state re

now we know obamacare hurts.be fewer doctors and longer wait times under the president's health care law. this is the doctor disaster. we got the numbers now to back it up. here we go. in one florida county, only seven pediatricians for 250,000 children. upwards of a million people in the san diego area will have access to only 10 dermatologists that apparently is a very low number. here is the scariest one of them all. average of just 15 cardiologists for every one hundred thousand people. that is on a typical obamacare plan. bad numbers on doctors. president obama once again acting unilaterally to change the law passed by congress, announcing two changes yesterday. a one-year delay to the employer mandate for companies with 50 to 99 worker. companies with more than 100 workers, they only need to provide health care for 70% of them in 2015. that is a big delay. the president is in a circle, still not answering questions. here is fox news jesse waters, asking nancy pelosi why she will not talk to bill o'reilly. >

. >> congressman paul ryan slamming obamacare. is he calling it the poverty trap. >> create the disincentive for people to work. >> the effect will be severe. as if 2.5 million people had stopped working. >> it allows americans to choose to spend more time with their family or pursue their dreams. >> they do have less of an incentive to work. >> translation? washington is making the poverty trap much worse. >> the white house has been forced to spin numbers. >> this creates the opportunity for more entrepreneurship that did not exist prior to the affordable care act. >> subsidy people are better off. they do have less of an incentive to work. getting more opportunities, rising their income. joining the middle class. this means fewer people will do that. >> the act create the disincentive for people to work. >> the benefit of having the freedom and choice that health insurance security provides outweighs those considerations. >> fewer people are going to be working and the economy will be slower as a result. that, to me, is just ja

i'm not an obamacare supporter. okay, fine.es me is the constant -- i'll call them fibs. they are fibing about these numbers on a constant basis and you can't do that anymore. there's too many newspapers and websites and too many truth trackers. too many people are all over this. if the president already has a problem because he said if you like your insurance and doctor, you can keep them. that was the lie of the year that has absolutely crushed his credibility. but they continue with these little numerical fibs as though no one is going to check it out. if you said to me only 1.5 million, why do they keep fibbing like this? >> because it sells their program, i think, and they -- >> i think it sells them down the river. i think nobody believes them on anything. seriously. i don't get -- i've been in politics, i've been out of politics. the best policy is to tell the truth. >> i would agree. >> the minute you try to cover stuff up, the minute you try to bake and shake these numbers, no one is going to believe a thing. >> i know

obamacare and jobs. cbo adds fuel to fire. even an ap reporter trying to strike a false balance. >> basically what you have is two different ways of characterizing this report. >> no, there are not two different ways characterizing the report. everyone seems to confuse the demand for labor, which is do employers want to hire with the supply of labor, which is do people wan want to work? >> there are going to be people working fewer hours working fewer hours going forward because of obamacare, because people will choose to work less, they think the effect on the employer side, willingness of employers to hire will be negligible. >> what the report actually said, the affordable care act's guarantee of health insurance, and the way in which subsidies work means that people won't have to work in order to maintain coverage and will be freed up to work less. in fact, house budget committee chairman paul ryan republican and no fan of obamacare, clarified exactly that point in today's hearing on the cbo report. >> just to understand t

. >>> disastrous predictions for obamacare. millions will lose or quit their jobs, and millions more will lose their health insurance. this is "special report." >>> good evening. wrp shannon breen in for bret baier. new statistics on the immediate future of the president's health care plan has obama supporters scrambling for cover. number crunchers are making dire predictions about losses in the very areas the health care plan was supposed to bolster. employment and coverage. ed henry has tonight's top story. >> a fresh blow to president obama's health care law as the nonpartisan congressional budget office chopped their estimate of first year enrollment numbers down to 6 million people, and the dbo declared the new law will lead to over 2 million fewer full-time workers in the next few years as consumers choose part-time work with generous government subsidies over full-time jobs. >> honestly, it's not a surprising report. all the anecdotes you hear about the country are that premiums are going up and jobs ar lost. >> white ho

obamacare is a disaster.ugh, when you read the fine print of this study, it doesn't say you're losing all of these jobs. it's going to reduce the workforce, the number of workers which potentially could be good if obamacare gives them the opportunity to retire or do other stuff, not worry about getting health insurance. >> you can hear the republican ads, job killer, this costs 2 million jobs and they are saying it gives you a freedom to choose. if you can get health care subsidies and then maybe you'll decide to work a little less. they say it's about freedom of choice. republicans say it's about lost jobs and, you know, where you stand depends on where you sit. it's that argument that we've heard over and over again. it's not a new argument. job killer versus job creator. >> you've been getting reaction on the hill. republicans are pouncing right now. democrats have been on the defense. >> i have to tell you a funny story. i just came from capitol hill. i was in the elevator with democratic congress people

because they want to run from obamacare. these groups calling them to account and stopping them from running from their votes. >> they've come out and said that they want the irs to crack down they say on all of the groups, mark, they say it's not just conservatives. this is before groups that are entertaining this advertising. they want irs to crack down on them. that is what they're saying back in 2010 which led to, according to the inspector general, led to the targeting of conservatives in the first place. >> no. that is right z look, now you have a new fox news poll showing 64% of the american people think irs is corrupt. they're turning to the organization that is under criminal investigation, under that shadow, they're turning to irs not only to target the groups but defund and silence them, it's almost, unbelievable. >> it's happening again. we heard chuck shumer, you know, a couple weeks ago being explicit in the calls for irs to crack down on these groups yet again. now we have top democratic senators saying yes. t

we heard about the evils of obamacare about the lifes it's ruining. republican some speeches and in ads paid for by oil magnets a koch brothers but in those tales. turned out to be just. tales. to say that the koch brothers have no conscience and are willing to lie behaviors associated most commonly was sociopaths so if that's the case maybe it's time to start regulating the amount of influence the sociopaths can have on our political processes maybe we should be regulating people who are throwing billions of dollars at our democracy while exploiting the story of woman with leukemia for personal gain in america the first amount protects our rights to speech association but we regulate those rights for example you have the right to free speech but you can't yell fire in a crowded theater and cause a mass panic that could turn deadly similarly you can't stand in front of a store that short changed you for hours on end yelling and causing a public disruption our right to association is also regulated our country you have the right to hold a rally in a pu

this is the 27th delay weñrñ53 have n obamacare.asing political pain going as we all know all the problems with obamacare going down the road and easing that going into the 2014 rejection. we have to see this in the context it of the economy. this suggests that they were buying biz's argument that they were cutting back business' house hours so they didn't have to comply with obamacare. you look at the jobs report from last week, it's going to take six years to get the job rate back to prepresession levels still this long after the recession. this long after the recession has ended. i think this administration, they don't want to say it, but they are worried about the state of the economy and the impact of obamacare on the state of the economy. >> it does come after some different interpretations of the cbo numbers. i think there have been different interpretations, charles? >> that's why it's a double whammy here, the cbo is telling us that it obamacare will cause a loss -- the equivalent of 2 million jobs from people choosing idol

they want obamacare -- they want us to ignore the failures of obamacare. story about danielle. she has cancer, signed up for obamacare. because in california 70% of doctors are not accepting obamacare patients, she couldn't see her oncologist. now, julie, you know the whole pitch of obamacare was to increase access, and now we're seeing access is even worse for millions of americans under obamacare. this is nothing to champion here. >> i will tell you, i mean, as of today there's a new report out that 3.3 million people now have health care thanks to obamacare. >> and like 10% of those were uninsured previously. >> let me, let me -- [inaudible conversations] let me finish my thought which is that you're now suggesting by repealing obamacare that you're going to go to those millions of people and say to them, sorry, but you no longer have health care, or let's go back to the old days where if you had cancer, we'll be able to throw you off the rolls or we went insure you again. when you go to people with that specific proposal to get rid of obamacare which w

oba obamacare is a bigger disaster. all of it is blamed on the president and democrats, so would it not be foolishly destructive for the republicans to focus on anything other than that where they have a legit mt. chance to take the senate? >> absolutely. this is what i find offensive about this notion, that the only way to appeal to hispanic voters is to grant amnesty to people who are breaking the law. how about the fact that one thing we know from all of this is that a lot of the illegal that is have come here and a lot of the legal hispanics that come here, they are hard workers. the reason they came to the united states is because they believe in the rule of law. and because -- they came to the united states to make a better life for themselves and their families. why don't republicans talk about that? why don't republicans talk about the importance of hard work and the importance of keeping the money that you earn and the importance of the rule of law? and if they talk about those things in terms of obamacare, job

and secondly, the damage from obamacare.y all these people are getting access to insurance. 6.6 million americans have already lost their health insurance, and more is yet to come. >> there's no question. >> all the insurance agents say, rate shock in 2014 is nothing compared to what it's going to be in 2015. and when those notices come out in september and october of 2014 about the 2015 rates right before the election, so the damage is done. >> what about the democrats who try to distance themselves from the president? what can he do to try to keep everyone in line? does he have any leverage or is he just a complete lame duck? >> i think you're looking at a lame duck presidency. this is when they try to do everything by executive order. they're into this spiral now. they do the executive orders, they make everybody angry, and then they come back around and they try to say, well, we're going to give you a little bit more of this and that, and 91% of the american people say jobs in the economy. this is what they want to talk