he promised the american people, "we're goingpeal and replace obamacare." so when he hears, "we have to pull the bill because we don't have the votes," he's beside himself. >> narrator: after ryan left,pr thident picked up the phone to call the "washington post," determined that he not be blamed. (phone dialing) >> i get a call on a friday afternoon and it's president trump. trump says, "i've pulled the bill." he tells me the republican party is broken. "i don't need this broken republican party," he said, "if they're not going to really help me, if they're not going to get their stuff together." what he really wanted was a win. he wasn't pushing for an eological win, he wasn't pushing for a political win. he wanted a win for donaldnd trump,he republican party failed him. >> congress failed to pass a republican bill to reform... >> in the end, the self-proclaimed closer couldn't close the deal >> narrator: the president, the salesman, the dealmaker, had also failed. >> the trump administration will be able to t one passed at all... >> narrator: trump was re

it began with obamacare. >> paul ryan came to the president and said, "look, our goal, our plan, is, we'll get repeal and replace done by easter." okay, easy peasy lemon squeezy, we've done this a hundred times, right? then we'll get a tax cut done probably by labor day, and you'll have your transportation bill done before the end of your first year, and you'll have the most successful presidency of a first-year president in the histoour country. um he thought that it would be easy to work with that the president just wanted "wins," right? he ust wanted... he just wanted to be able to say he was winning and that he wouldn't be particarly combative about the details. it was just about, "get me bills and i'll sn them." >> narrator: with republicans in control of congress, ryan believede was on the verge of enacting policies he'd advocated for decades. he had been in washington since he was 22. >> this guy is a guy who has been reading the "walltreet journal" editorial page since he was in high school. he read ayn rand when he was young, and it kind of definedhi political outlook for a

thirty five huge boondoggle there well they've gotten into obamacare provision this is a pretty excitingtime to be in the federal health i.t. space said horace blackman lockheed martin's vice president of health and life sciences the biggest opportunities i would point to are the efforts associated with the affordable care act so here we have lockheed martin saying the biggest opportunities are providing a fair affordable care act lockheed martin also provided some of the new missiles going into syria. so how it how is syria sold to you how is the affordable care act sold to what was what was argued by rachel maddow for both humanitarian intervention you care about those people in syria right you care you might not care about the children the women and children in yemen but you care about the women and children in syria right well we need lockheed martin here apparently you care about those poor people who don't have health care well if you give lockheed martin someone very early they'll deliver help us out humanitarian aid that's how they sold it so the health care industry to ransack a

and provide services for obamacare soon after congress passed the landmark affordable care act the maker of submarines and tanks decided to expand its business related to health care as two thousand and eleven purchase of health data firm van gent instantly made it the largest contractor. to medicare and medicaid huge government plans for seniors and the poor quote they saw that their legacy defense market was going to be taking a hit said sébastien le gonna an analyst with technology business research a market research firm and they knew that a cia was going to inject funds into the health care market as the article then says if health care is the new oil as investors hope this was the market to get into right the american program this is the almost a million people went bankrupt because the medical establishment they defense industry and the health insurance industry targeted them for death and now they are dying as predicted good on you maybe your plan to kill people is working so essentially a medical procedure that cost five hundred dollars the medical industry these guys now workin

we have not expanded medicare -- medicaid under obamacare. in theseleg up opportunities and we were trying to fashion an insurance market that the people of idaho want instead of what the federal government wants to sell them. i think a lot of those folks weren't looking, and that is not unusual, for that crowd in idaho to do that. host: the governor is currently in his third term. he is our guest until the top of the hour. if you would like to participate in the conversation today, (202) 748-8000. if you're in idaho residents, and all others around the .ountry, (202) 748-8001 when you first came up, you talked about the economy of idaho, and you talked about semiconductors. there is a large company in idaho, homegrown, what is that? wasicron technology actually started by a couple of , who ironically enough come out of the same region of , the that farnsworth did guy that invented the television tube that you and i enjoyed a certain amount of exposure to write now. these two brothers -- right now. these two brothers decided to come back home

that was the worst part of obamacare. we got rid of that and you see what is going on and we are really producing. and except for one vote, remember the one vote? 3:00 in the morning, thumbs down. what a vote that was. what a vote that was. that was some vote. but, despite that, it is going to come out great. we have gotten rid of a lot of obamacare. we will get rid of the rest. we got you the tax cuts. we want every american to know the dignity of work, the pride of a paycheck, and the satisfaction of a job well done. there is nothing like it. together, we can lift millions of americans from welfare to work, from dependence to independence, and from poverty to prosperity. we are supporting job training and we are supporting vocational schools, right? vocations. i said to the guys -- i said -- these community colleges are wonderful but no one really knows what a community college is. when i was growing up, we had things called vocational schools . i would go to a school and i would be sitting next to a guy -- i never look

that's sad because obamacare is an atrocity.y is it unconstitutional, but hijacking 20% of our economy, putting that backing government's hands was a huge mistake and of course, healthcare overall, how it would be diminished, our system atrophy under obamacare and yet we are still looking at it. >> the president really has tried to secure the southern border. he talks about all time. he has demanded funding for it, he is now looking at a way to use military funds if you can find a legitimate way to do that. he is calling on the military, national guard which obama did and george w. bush did and in some respect to assist the border patrol because of the caravan that's coming or has been coming to the southern border which is, constitutional as long as the military, this is been well understood legally and constitutionally is not involved in specific apprehensions, arrests, detentions and so forth. >> so, i think he's tried to do everything a president can do and yet congress again stands in the way. congress passes along 202016 t

they walked out to the white house and ryan has a plan that says we will repeal and replace obamacare probably by easter. then we will get you a tax cut and then we will do the infrastructure bill by the end of the year. you will be the most productive president ever. trump, who goes along with that apparently, says that's fabulous. let's do it. he's believing appropriately that the republicans that had 7.5 years of anger to talk about obamacare and the ability to repeal it. he sits and waits. they essentially tell him we will need you maybe for some cheerleading, but if you just step back, we will get this done. people we talked to who are very close to ryan said what ryan really wanted and what mcconnell would ultimately want is a pen in the white house. they did not expect a president that would roll up his sleeves and get to policy or ideology for that matter. they were very surprised about what happened with that repeal and replace bill as it started to move its way through congress and so was trump. host: documentary filmmaker rk joining us about "trump's takeover." if you want

nat sound:for her, it was what washington did do the push to repeal obamacare in the house elissa slotkin:"i saw my representative in the group there.. beaming and proud and smiling from ear to ear that he had just voted to repeal health care without a replacement, without any plan and something just broke for me."slotkin's mother had died of ovarian cancer allowing her insurance to lapse unable

the individual mandate is gone on obamacare which is about the end of obamacare.e beach and some senators went thumbs down. that's all right because alex acosta is come up and this is a plan that a lot of people wanted for a long time. alex when is that tell me to could one of said a--going to be ready when people can do at their groups and corporatists? >> that's right mr. president. we hope to have that by this summer. >> it's going to be incredible. you can get tremendous insurance and the very low cost so the individual mandate is dead. you know it's funny i said no ... i do that in a person called up who i have a lot of respect for and he said is it true that you were going to get anwr is part of your tax cut plan? it put a lot of things in there. we have anwr and i said it's true. tell me that--about it because i'm not inclined specifically. he said they'll tell you it's pretty amazing. we have been trying to get this passed since ronald reagan. nobody could get it done and no president could get it done. it's impossible. perhaps the biggest event in the wor

that was the worst part of obamacare. we got rid of that. you see what's going on. except for run vote. remember the one vote, 3:00 in the morning. thumbs down. what a vote that was. what a vote that was. that was some vote. but despite that, it's going to come out great. so we have gotten rid of a lot of obamacare and we'll get rid of the rest. we got you the tax cuts. we want every american to know the dignity of work, the pride of a paycheck and the satisfaction of a job well done. there is nothing like it. together we can lift millions of americans from welfare to work, from dependence to independence and from poverty to prosperity. [cheers and applause] we are supporting job training and we are supporting vocational schools. right? vocational schools. i said to the guys, i said these community colleges, they are wonderful, but nobody knows what a community college is. when i was growing up we had things called vocational schools. i would go to a school and would be sitting next to a guy, i never looked at his papers because he didn't do well. on the other side

obamacare went into effect.0% more than before for a premium, and what do they get? they get a deductible that's so high they're not really covered when they go to the doctor. and despite all of these price increases, insurance companies are lose aring their shirts. in fact finish losing their shirts. in fact, they're suing all of us for $15 billion to make up for the losses they have already incurred. stuart: but if i'm getting a nice be, fat, healthy subsidy, i like are it. >> that's right. the only winners are people who get a total free ride, right? or people who can't buy other health insurance. but unfortunately, the big losers are consumers who want to buy affordable health insurance, and the insurance companies themselves. they have lost their shirts on this. stuart state battling it -- still battling it, aren't you? [laughter] it never goes away. >> i'm writing to bitch ware, it's coming soon -- to obituary. stuart: thank you very much. food stamp enrollment, i mean, did it go down. president trump also

that's on obamacare which is about the end of obamacare. we had obamacare beat and then one senator decided to go thumbs down. you remember that evening? nobody remembers. thumbs down, but it's all right because alex acosta has come up and, this is a plan that a lot of people and one for long time, associations, and were going to have tremendous sign-ups. alex, tell me if you could, when is it going to be ready where people can start signing and delete in groups and through cooperatives, et cetera? >> that's right, mr. president. we hope to have that by this summer. >> it's going to be incredible. you're going to get tremendous insurance a very low cost. so the individual mandate is dead. anwr is up. i said let's not do that and then a person called up who i had a lot of respect for an energy business. he said is a true you're going to get anwr as part of your tax cut plan? they put a lot of things in. so we had the individual mandate. we have anwr. i said it's true. tell me about it because i'm not inclined to do it. i said for a specific

part of the worst obamacare.rid of that and you see what is going on and we are really producing. and except for one vote, remember the one vote? thumbs the morning, down. what a vote that was. what a vote that was. that was some vote. but, despite that, it is going to come out great. of a lot ofen rid obamacare. we will get rid of the rest. we got you the tax cuts. we want every american to know the dignity of work, the pride of a paycheck, and the satisfaction of a job well done. there is nothing like it. together, we can lift millions toamericans from welfare work, from dependence to independence, and from poverty to prosperity. supporting job training and we are supporting vocational schools, right? vocations. i said to the guys -- i said -- these community colleges are wonderful but no one really knows what a community college was. when i was growing up, we had things called vocational schools and i would go to a school and i would be sitting next to a guy -- i never looked at his papers because he did not d

without the insurance companies, he couldn't have gotten obamacare. so you have three examples, and we said, oh, the health care system's a mess, and we all have problems, you know? yeah, sure. but we have to recognize that these forces are very powerful, and they need to be exposed. one more? >> one more question. right here. yes, ma'am. >> all the things you've been talking about, what effect do you think this has had on the party system itself? are the parties finished, or are they going to split up? >> no, i don't think the parties are finished, but i think both parties are clearly fragmented today. i do think, i think the parties will not, you know, david rotor wrote a book, my god, when jim hairer and i were -- lehrer and i were kids in washington. remember "the party's over"s? >> yeah, great book. >> thirty years ago saying the parties are finished. i think they're fragmented, there's no question about that. and, you know, there's a sharp right in the republican party and a sharp left in the democratic party. there's always been some of that. t

i can remember when the americans were arguing about whether or not to have obamacare, quite a lot of's performance on cancer as a reason not to go down to the nhs type system. an acknowledgement that in some cancers, we have been very lam fig; 17

maybe they'll use it to keep up with rising health costs, since obamacare has utterly failed to keep costs down for american families. whatever they choose, i'm glad the republican tax reform is letting hardworking parents keep more of their own money. but my democratic colleagues obviously disagree. they're rail laying to take back -- to take back -- that family's money so they can spend it themselves. they're so out of touch that they scoff at a $2,000 tax cut, $1,000 bonuses, and permanent wage increases for hourly workers. they call them crumbs, crumbs, mr. president. to be fair, in the wealthiest parts of san francisco or new york, maybe $1,000 does look like a rounding error. and we know those are the places our democratic colleagues are literally focused on. when president bush was in power, democratic policies fueled an incredibly uneven economic recovery. by one estimate, the biggest, richest urban areas captured 73% of all the job gains. meanwhile, millions of americans in smaller cities, small towns, and rural areas saw little or no progress. so believe me, after years of

you brought up the obamacare repeal and replace. he has the freedom caucus, the moderate wing. >> and the president. >> you're right. it's hard for people once they're speaker to say in the house as a member. we talk about people that should have left after they lost the speakership. i'm sure everybody will mention nancy pelosi. but it's hard for most speakers. john boehner, a long list have left. this is the right time. he's young. he has ambitions. this is not the last of paul ryan. >> no. he was very optimistic in his -- looking into the future for his party as he left it off at the news conference saying he's absolutely confident that he will be handing his gavel over to a republican speaker of the house in january. >> you focus on the key aspect of his character that is so likeable. he's an optimist. he's that ronald reagan type of optimist. he work at the side of jack kemp for many years. he was an apprentice. they both had this optimism about what america is capable of. all the legislation is couched in that idea of what amer

we have tax cuts, deregulation, repeald anduld have replaced obamacare, that is a problem we have to deal with as a party. time to face the nondiscretionary overspending that we're doing as a nation. i hate to use a word commonly used, almost loses meaning, this truly is unsustainable. host: line for democrats, rob in tulsa, oklahoma. good morning. caller: good morning. o you and good morning mr. andrew puzder. guest: morning, rob. caller: i do not support anything you say right now. happen to be disabled and i don't, i never -- everything over the years as i've gotten gone up and , have up and up. that is just life, you know. that arelot of friends low and middle class and they don't see the jobs that you are about.g i have friends that work at walmart that lost hours when raise.ot a pay i don't understand why you sit and you the democrats swamp,ump has drained the all of his cabinet, most of his wigs, plus -- g being investigated for spending money on private telephone booths, the man from pruitt, it's just idiculous how you just sit and say things because you support liar.resident

cut wasteful spending, repeal obamacare and balance the budget.his message because washington is full of big spenders. let's make them squeal. >> this one is a very effective advertisement. obviously, she won. it went viral because of the shock and humor of the subject and the fact that so many people were frustrated with washington at the time that it came out . >> over $5,000 a year -- radio, hour time of radio ads go back to the 1930's, everything from the middle of the 1950's on, we have tried to save political advertising. we have a large portion of it. comparing good for and contrasting with what we hear hearing out -- what we are hearing now. >> our cities tour staff recently traveled to norman, oklahoma to learn about its rich history. learn more at www.c-span.org /citiestour. you are watching american history tv, all weekend, every weekend on c-span3. , american artifacts takes viewers into archives, museums and historic sites around the country. the historic hay-adams hotel is just across lafayette square from the white house. its bar, o

that's on obamacare, which is about the end of obamacare.ad obamacare beat and one senator decided to go thumbs down. you remember that? no, nobody remembers that. it's all right. because alex acosta has come up and, you know, this is a plan that a lot of people have wanted a long time, associations. we're going to have tremendous signups. alex, when is that -- tell me, if you could. when is that going to be ready where people can start signing and doing it in groups? >> that's right, mr. president. we hope to have that by this summer. >> it's going to be incredible. you're going to get tremendous insurance at a low cost. so the individual mandate is dead and anwar is up. that's the big energy that nobody thought -- it's funny. i didn't want to do it. i said let's not do that. a person called up who i have a lot of respect for. he said is it true that you're going to get anwar as part of your tax cut plan? you know, they put a lot of things in. so we have the individual mandate. i said yeah, it's true. i said i'm not inclined to do it for a

that's called obamacare, which is about the end of obamacare. had obamacare, and one senator decided to go thumbs down. do you remember that? no, nobody remembers. thumbs down. it's all right, because alex acosta has come up and this is the plan that a lot of people have wanted for a long time. we're going any tremendous sign-ups. alex, when is that going to be ready where people can start signing and doing it in groups and through cooperatives, et cetera? >> that's right, mr. president. we hope any that by this summer. >> it's going to be incredible. you're going to get tremendous insurance at a very low cost. so the individual mandate is dead. anwr is up, that's the big energy -- and a person called up from the energy business. he said, is it true that you're going to get anwr as part of your tax cut plan? so we have the individual mandate, anwr. i said yeah, that's true. he said, it's amazing. he didn't benefit by it. he said they've been trying to get this passed since ronald reagan. nobody could get it done. it's perhaps the biggest, the be

and the other idea i came up with is health care health care spending you and i have talked about obamacare you know after twenty years overseas we return here and it's quite a sticker shock to see that we were able to be treated fairly equally to all other members of society in france or united kingdom at the same rates we pay the tax rates and we receive the same treatment here. there is not only a massive bureaucracy but a massive imbalance in terms of justice and injustice there so we'll pay we pay this year twenty six thousand four hundred in premiums but we still have five thousand dollars in deductible to even receive any treatment it seems like a lot of money right add that up because that's twenty six thousand four hundred just to get medical care and then five thousand on top of it thirty one thousand dollars. well if you earn under a certain amount you get it all free so yeah that goes into your calculations of should i participate in the jobs market and earn forty thousand dollars but then i have to come up with thirty thousand thirty one thousand for health care so i'm only up

they should keep the seven year promised to repeal and replace obamacare.ou know, things that they all said and promised when they were campaigning. i here's what's going to happen to republicans who don't keep their promises. democrats are going to try to systematically undone every sine one of those accomplishments, we'll put them back on the screen.i nancy pelosi has already threatened that she is going to try and repeal the tax cuts that benefit 90% of americans. by the way, you keep going, nancy, good job, don't stop. stay on message.re it's up to congressional republicans to show some backbone, some spine, and actually fight for the president's agenda that you voted for. now former house oversight committee chairman jason chaffetz, he is going toe join s in a few minutes. heut is out with a list of ten things that congress should be doing right now. in the article, he suggests congress should explain and clarify the conflicts of interest on special counsel mueller's team. i don't think there is an explanation. they should formally demand theo appointm

one illuminating example was the attempted repeal of obamacare. >> the president increasingly ghking the blame. >> can he get enouvotes? to frustrated, he heade capitol hill to confront his party. >> conservative republicans are now warning -- >> no more back-slapping and charleading. non ultimate um. >> do you have the votes, mr. esident? >> finally trump throws up his hands and says, you know what, you have until is day, u have this didline, if you can't t it done, we're moving on. >>idmr. president, d you make a persuasive case? >> it was classic donald trump. >> we had a great meeting >> the find caucus would get on board or the president wouldy walk aom the effort to repeal obamacare and make sure they got the blame. t pressure was so massive, and this is the at most fear that the freedom caucus wain. they knew the spotlight was theirs. >> at the deadline, they decided to call the president's bluff. ryan headed to the white house to warn trump they failed. t >> i'ld ryan was ice cold, very calm throughout the whole car ride and theisit to the white house, because he had to conve

on july 27, 2017... t>> the senate is schedul vote on the latest version of the bill to replace obamacare... >> they're going to be there ala night,s called a vote-a-rama. >> narrator: washington was closely watching senator john mccain. >> a vote on healthcare, a vote that... >> narrator: he was the key vote on president trump's first major legislative initiati: a repeal of obamacare. h every time we saw him, it was like, "do you kn you're going to vote? do you know how you're going to vote?" and he was grouchier and d grouchier as t went on, as he sometimes gets. and he just said, "stay tuned," you know? it was sort of like... he kindas ofven saying, like, "watch the vote. it'll be a show." h is expected to return to capitol hill today... >> narrator: just over a week before, mccain had been diagnosed with a deadly form of brain cancer. >> everybody knew, at that point, it came down to, of all people, john mccain, the one who had been fighting with the president, who had been a maverick, as he portrayed himself all these years. and all eyes are on him. >> today senators are voting on a

repeal obamacare.hy do i believe that's good politics and everyone is worried about the blue wave in 2018. that would mitigate the blue wave. >> just do what they said they were going to do and do it in proactive way. jim jordan talks about it. this is what the american people elected us to do. let's try it and see what happens. >> sean: i see hillary clinton fixed the primary. maybe i'm the only personal in the world who cares about bernie sanders supporters. that's kind of corrupt. okay, hillary clinton, she deletes 33,000 emails. she acid washes the hard drive. bleach bit. then she takes hammers or has people taking hammers and busting up these devices. then the fix is in with strzok, comey, page loretta lynch and the tarmac meeting. they are writing exoneration once before the investigation. they interview her. two days later they exonerate her. then you have the whole dossier and then you have lying to fisa court judges. >> you have to understand that director comey went to president-elect trump a

you could come together on issues like repealing and replacing obamacare or tax cuts but in terms of the message of the republican party, you disagree and that has -- the deal you've made to try to get these things done for the american people has subjected you to criticism, ron brownstein wrote today, quote, paul ryan chose to tolerate both trump's personal excess and his racially polarizing words and deeds as the advance for his own priorities and cutting spending and regulations and above all taxes and he personified the devils bargon, the gop has signed with trump. what is your response when you hear criticism -- >> i've known ron for 25 years. i don't see getting things done for the country keeping your promises and making a difference a devil's bargain. look, we have a divided -- we have separation of powers. we have three separate co-equal branches of government and many republicans an the secret to success from what i see is getting the different kind of republicans to form a coalition government that could actually deliver. that is what we have right now. i'm grateful for th

thirty five huge boondoggle there well they've gotten into obamacare provision this is a pretty exciting time to be in the federal health i.t. space said horace blackman lockheed martin's vice president of health and life sciences the biggest opportunities i would point to are the efforts associated with the affordable care act so here we have lockheed martin saying the biggest opportunities are providing a fair affordable care act lockheed martin also provided some of the new missiles going into syria. so how is how is sirius sold to you how is an affordable care act sold to you what was what was argued by rachel maddow for both. humanitarian intervention you care about those people in syria right you care you might not care about the children the women and children in yemen but you care about the women and children in syria right well we need lockheed martin here apparently you care about those poor people who don't have health care well if you give lockheed martin someone fairly they'll deliver help us out humanitarian aid that's how they sold it so the health care industry to ransack

one of the reasons was that you had been assured by mitch mcconnell that fixes to obamacare would passefore the end of the year. writing quote having secured the key improvements as well as commitments to legislation to help lower health insurance premiums i will cast my vote in support. it is april now. you haven't gotten the health care bills that you wanted. do you think you were lied to in order to get your vote? >> no. i really don't. i had a number of concerns about the tax bill, but i support lowering taxes. we have doubled the standard deduction that will help some 72% of american taxpayers. we have made the child care tax credit refundable for the first sime. that's going to help that single mom who is making $35,000 get money back from the federal government rather than owing taxes. so there is a lot in the tax bill that is good. >> i understand that you support it. you did say that repealing the individual mandates which was in the bill would lead to higher premiums and a study shows premiums are expected to climb 52% in maine this year. this is exactly what you warned about

that doesn't ensure that everybody has full access to healthcare and repealing key components of obamacare. that's not a good parent. that's a bad parent. >> that's a straw man. >> you brought up healthcare, i didn't. >> you are saying he wants to get rid of medicare and medicaid. >> that's already coming up because of the tax cuts. >> so what we got to keep in mindnd is president trump was elected to do a number of different things, repeal and replace obamacare was one of them. what you consider to be a bad parent, the american people 'tis disagree. they voted for him to do that. everything president trump does or says isn't correct. that's something we can agree on. but when i it comes to using ths parent analogy, that was an inappropriate use. you can debate on policy, his words, his tweets. but when we are talking about the president of the united states, we should live by the george bush standard, he didn't criticize his predecessor, let us debate the issues and keep the energy high. >> that's important. when you are impugning the motives of the current administration, you may have po

and how to improve on obamacare. and that is a smart place to start. to tammy's point about them using trump. that did not help anyone in the congressional district and how many seats that hillary clinton took. i don't think don junior coming out to say magga and lock her up will win them seats there. 24 seats is not much. but many of them are vulnerable. >> it is good work if you can get it. >> martha: so five decades after the scandal that ended a young woman's life and ted kennedy 'dream of winning the white house. there is a scandal involving powerful people who didn't want the movie to be made. and president trump said daca is officially dead. and dreamers can blame the democrats. and we'll have the story of two people who are in a battle. a illegal immigrant and a mother who said if president trump had his way her son would be alive. >> i have a love for these people and i hope they will do it properly. on investment pro, fisher investments avoids them. some advisers have hidden and layered fees. fisher investments never does. and while some advi

we've passed funding for the wall, passed removal of sanctuary cities, passed a repeal of obamacare. the senate can't do anything. it's not paul ryan's fault that we've had a less than effective represent. kennedy: ththe corps p.if you tn too soon you can get an infection. if paul ryan can maintain stability, maintain some order while we advance the president's agenda for the rest to have 115th congress, i think that's all the better. this is a guy who didn't want to job in the first place. he didn't want to do it. he took it because there was nobody else going to be able to get to 218 voeltz. kennedy: 218 votes. kennedy: and hen completely abandoned his principles and pushed through a $1.3 trillion bloated disgusting offensive spending bill. >> i agree. i didn't vote for it. i don't agree with every decision the speaker has made. but any of the people the republicans would back also voted for that very bill. kennedy: i haven't cited anyone though. >> you've cited members of the house who want to replace ryan. those members veeted for the bill the people they want to step in to be sp

. >> okay, would you say for hospitals obamacare, your hospital, has it been a plus or minus? >> so ends up because of the payment system it didn't have a huge affect one way or another. and around the country it did increase access by 20 million people had access to health care. from that it had a huge effect. there are terms of down side and if you looked at what the main deposit is, on health care for 20 million out of 48 million people who didn't have access. >> i think that expansion of access, people felt they could go a doctor bealmçb.wá american cancer society, giving back to back talks and able to show for preft cancer and lung cancer and colon cancer, people do go for screening more effectively when they have insurance. it's driven down the death rate because people got identified and diagnosed earlier because they thought they had insurance and they can go to their doctor as a right and do that. and there are many complicated things. it's not all positive and there is room for improvement in u.s. health care. >> for children and families it's a big plus we used to h