they didn't want to kill obamacare. they made the decision that the aca can exist without the mandate. i agree, right. as a matter of politics, the mandate never actually worked. i think the penalty was too small and not effective at nudging people into the insurance marketplace. it wasn't enforced well. i'm with you. but that's not the only question we have. there are different ways of measuring legislative intent. congress can express its findings in a statute. congress can express its findings in a committee report. they can express their findings in a statement. they can express their thoughts in a press conference. now politicians can express their thoughts in a tweet. that's admissible evidence in any federal court. if you were to poll the members of congress in 2017 who voted for this bill and say, can the mandate exist -- i'm sorry can the aca exist without the mandate, they will say yeah, sure, the mandate isn't necessary. that doesn't win the day, right. that's not enough. and the reason why are these statutor

so they upheld obamacare on that basis. subsequent to that the tax cuts and jobs act of 2017 tax reform bill of last year passed and congress zeroed out the penalty for not getting the insurance. so the individual mandate was essentially zeroed out and rendered a dead letter because there is now no penalty, no tax in other words. so a few states, texas is the lead here, attorney general paxton is leading up the lawsuit, said, wait a second, if it's no longer a tax, the constitutional authority upon which the court based its ruling upholding obamacare has now gone away. so this doesn't make any sense. this should render it unconstitutional. there is a logical simplicity there that rings true. judge o'connor agreed. there is really not much to say there. once the tax is removed it seems to go away. where the issue becomes, though, is what happens to the rest of the law? texas and the states are arguing that you cannot sever this from the rest of the law. they cite many statements put forth at the time of passage as well as ar

>> they immediately went after obamacare. repealing obamacare became the mantra for republicans. and it was a successful political strategy for the short term, at least. as we discussed over time it became less successful but -- at this point now it's become a albatross for them. in those years, their aggressive attack on obamacare and also the president's climate change policy, anything the administration was doing, they became, it was effective talking points. they were able to galvanize the tea party and the activist base and i think ultimately what that helped produce was donald trump. host: so still a democrat in the white house, harry reid in the senate, what they were -- what were they able to do? >> in a lot of way it mirrors what we're seeing today in washington, a divided government. republicans have -- democrats have taken back control of the house, launching a number of investigation into president trump and the administration. in the same way we saw a lot of investigations being launched, daryl issa, the oversight committee chairman from california, obviously a fello

it doesn't seem so much to be shoring up obamacare. they are making the argument that there are things the trumpet ministration is doing to sabotage the affordable care act -- the trump administration is doing to sabotage the affordable care act. democratsven the aspire to something greater than the aca. so i think the patchwork of regulations and subsidies, it's complicated with the obamacare will to increase the government's role in health care but remain a recognizably private health care based system. i think those contradictions are starting to really manifest themselves and the debate is going to be do you fix obamacare's flaws by moving it in a more market oriented direction or do you fix them by moving them into a more government oriented direction. i think democrats have a clear cut put it -- position. host: the american conservative.com is the website for the magazine, jim antle is the editor. how are conservative shaped by the trumpet ministration today, the four you go? administration today, before you go? guest: it's openi

they were lead to be against obamacare. that's deception of race in politics. >> dana: i think there are people thought it was not good policy. i will take your point and leave it there. thank you, reverend jackson. >> thank you. >> dana: president trump laying out healthcare priorities promising to protect patients and bring down the cost of drugs. how he plans to do it health and human secretary -- secretary alex azar has a lot to talk to you about next. we will be rightbe back. california phones offers free specialized phones... like cordless phones, - (phone ringing) - big button, and volume-enhanced phones. get details on this state program. call or visit and accessoriesphones for your mobile phone. like this device to increase volume on your cell phone. - ( phone ringing ) - get details on this state program call or visit >> shepherd smith on the fox news desk. the president is set to speak to the global collision fighting isis. we have that at the top of the hour. and virginia's top three leaders are facing major sca

then move to obamacare because you've got some, you've got some momentum behind you.tead, he started with the hardest thing, and he did it, he told me, because paul ryan told him that's what he had to do. i said to him ronald reagan wouldn't have done it this way. gerry: you're also critical of jared kushner, president's son-in-law, you criticize his lack of experience. to be fair, you admit you have a bit of history with the kushner family. you, essentially, sent to jail jared kushner's father. people say, well, that's inevitably going to color your view of the way the administration is performing. >> well, listen, i have absolutely nothing against the kushner family. i did my job. i got presented with a set of facts, and it might surprise some of your viewers to know, i've never met charles kushner. i prosecuted him, i saw him in court three times, we never exchanged words, and up until the chapter that's entitled jared's meltdown when he came in up invited to a meeting with me and donald trump, i had never met jared. and so i have nothing against the kushner family

. >> what we suggested was that tax cuts go first, infrastructure goes second, obamacare goes third. >> the wall was in infrastructure? >> the wall was in infrastructure. and so, we suggested that you do it in that order. we thought, one, that tax cuts was the single most important thing to get the economy going and get people believing again in the fact that the country can have 3% or 4% growth. then, you need to do infrastructure. we believed you needed to do that because it could be a bipartisan thing where you could get the wall done. if you were gonna do a huge highway and bridge and tunnel bill, then you could make a deal to get the wall put in there. then, third, we said obamacare because we thought that would be the hardest one. >> if you were chief of staff right now, how would all this be different? >> if i were it right now? >> yeah. >> you know, it would only be different if the president wanted it to be different. and i -- >> you're saying if he were different, if he changed? >> well, not if he changed, but if he delegated differently, you know? and i think that part of

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the example is obamacare.was a centrist right-wing policy before obama took it on. >> tucker: i know the whole thing. if obamacare worked, we got obamacare in the end, then why do some people not have health insurance? why do the majority of bankruptcies result from medical bills if obamacare -- it actually didn't work, can we just say that? since you brought it up? >> i think he should've started on the left, he should have had a robust public option but he was afraid of being called a socialist. >> tucker: i was told that obamacare was a panacea and if i was -- >> republicans are going to call him a socialist no matter how market friendly the policy is. >> tucker: do you think the government ought to control how many hamburgers you eat, let's just start there. >> in my case it would be hard for them to do that. no, i don't believe they should. i'm not a member of congress. >> tucker: you come for my hamburger, you want a piece? take it, that's what you're saying. >> you're going to steal it from my cold, dea

on the funds, this is not our case from the obamacare fight. they have a much more difficult time in challenging all of these funds. remember, the president can start construction with the money congress just gave him. and even if they knocked out one or two of these sources he still has plenty to go pretty far down that road. brian: bring me to the legal road. who files the suit. i found it curious the speaker wouldn't say if he files a national emergency i would look to stop it didn't commit to that if you want to stop the president, how

well here you know when they did the obamacare with a cause they didn't negotiate i mean they didn't put a lid on the on direct prices so the only ones who won with your companies in the end the insurance companies frankly there's a bit of a disconnect there because putting a lid on the price sounds like government can but other countries do it. while you can make it a market economy because they are free market you may well put a lid on price as well as whatever the market will bear and it's never really the market's not caring as to well because a lot of people are out health care that you know or the drug price of their own under the under that or under the right of america or on the drugs and i was on it before obamacare came in was dexidrine three d. and i've taken that three years twenty five dollars every month for as long as i can remember in in august it was twenty five in november it was sixty five after twenty thirteen it went to hundred twenty five and in may of twenty thirteen it went to four hundred fifty dollars on a generic drug ok sound candidate controlled it is con

and you know, when the same folks promised obamacare, or brought obamacare to you take promised you thatou could keep your insurance if you liked it. this time they're not even promising that. this time they're at least being explicit in saying that the 17 million americans who get their insurance through their employers, who love their insurance, will have it taken away and you will be put on a one size fits all government insurance plan. they're at least being transparent this time about what they're about. you know, that also is going to violate the commitment that we have made to our seniors in the medicare program. because when you put all of these other americans in the medicare program, you're going to have the best doctors and the best hospitals are going to jump out of that program because they'll be paid under market rate and it'll be just like europe and other socialist systems where you have to create a two-tyre system of health care and to get quality care you'll end up going outside the system if you've got the money to do so. so it violates our commitment to our seniors, i

not repealing obamacare, which is what they suggest. it's making sure we fix the consumer protections for pre-existing conditions. it's all of those things. that will mean a lot more people almost immediately can get insurance and -- >> do you not think that medicare for all is practical? >> i think medicare for all will take a while. it's difficult. and it's selling to people who now have insurance, that would have to have their insurance plans canceled. and move into a government plan. i think that's difficult. i want to help people now. that's why you do medicare at 50. i want to build on the obamacare, not repeal it with a whole new plan. >> one more health care question. do you believe there's a place for private health insurance? >> yeah. i just said that. i said that in so many words that you build on the affordable care act. you don't wipe it off. wipe it away and then come up with something new that will take time and will cause people angst and anguish to move to a different plan. give people the options now. fix the affordab

you have to make obamacare better.avid: neither one of those will increase the economic growth. >> no. >> i can respond on infrastructure? i would respectfully disagree with steve on infrastructure. i think it is the pest plan, i would -- best plan. david: why. >> >> for every dollar spend a 1.7 time pull player. >> if spent right. >> right. >> of course we're talking about private sector driving infrastructure. >> right. >> in my opinion, i think it would be a bipartisan way to go. it isopoly thin only thing you n get union, chamber of commerce, republicans and democrats to agree on. >> i worry about that. here is what happens, look yesterday all that time that trump heralded economic development. nancy pelosi was busy reading the news paper from a week ago. >> i think she was reading the mueller report. david: ooh. for the record she was reading the peach. >> mueller report leaking again. >> keep in mind about infrastructure there is snow infrastructure crisis with our nation's railroads, they are privately run. no s

doug: we talked about the obamacare situation a little bit ago and was very critical of obama and i don't know why the caller has such blinders on that he can't see or hear i just said that, just said with a he said. "the washington post," look, near times "washington post" and "wall street journal" are still the three standards on fact checking with omni budsman. do they make errors? yes. but to pretend that donald trump doesn't fabricate things on a regular drumbeat basis, that's false. he does. it may not bother you. it might just be his style. you might want to call it something other than a lie, a exaggeration. feel free to do that. but we're looking at a president who is wild with his language. that doesn't mean other presidents weren't. i edited ronald reagan's diaries and done three books on president reagan. all these right-wing people that call in here act like any time you try to be a centerist or try to talk honestly on president's day -- presidents' day that you have an agenda, part of their tree-state paranoia. reagan would fabricate things and he would read or misremember a

not repealing obamacare, it is making sure we fix the consumer for preexisting conditions. do you not think medicare for all is practical? >> it is difficult and selling to people that have insurance that would have to have their insurance plans cancelled and move into a government plan. i think it's difficult. i want to help people now. i want to build -- i say i want to build on obamacare, not repeal it. >> one more health care question. do you believe that's place for private health insurance? >> yeah. i just said that in so many words, that you build on the affordable care act. you don't wipe it off, wipe it away and come up with something new that will take time and cause people anguish to move to a different plan. give people the options. fix the affordable care act. do the consumer protections on the -- when insurance companies cancel their plans. >> let's move onto jobs, a big t topic for you. they backed out of plans to build second head dpquarters. amazon talked about 25,000 new jobs. did they make a mistake, those that lobbied against it? >> i think there are loc

we don't have that, but we do have obamacare. how is obamacare working, in your estimation? rep. dingell: it's a little bit like asking how is this child going to do in this presidential as that child, boy or girl, does in his or her race for the presidency. i happen to think very well. this is the biggest single undertaking of this kind ever done by this nation. social security was something like maybe 50 million. this is more like 350 million. it is not done by people who are working with their government. it is done by people who are working with insurance companies. all of these things have got to be done by everybody pitching in. we did not get a nickel for it. the help from their publicans. they sulked. their complaint was they were not heard. but we would invite them and they would not come. i don't have any questions about the fact that it is doing about as well given the circumstances, , as it could. going a little further than that, if you look, first of all, almost every american is covered. second of all, the long-standing complaints of the american citizens about how

obamacare, millions and doctors, plans, one option and everybody paid more. the false promises i think of socialism and the danger and under donald trump record low unemployment for african-americans, hispanic-americans, women in the workplace and i come from very blue-collar roots. i want the forgotten men and women in this country. and frankly, the world to have listings of freedoms that we take for granted as i can see in vietnam, a lot of poverty. >> jorge: and i understand your point. and if you would allow me in this case -- >> sean: 25 seconds. >> jorge: health care in venezuela, social in venezuela is terrible. i saw this woman who just didn't have enough money for antibiotics. and i saw a family is dying because they couldn't do a blood test in the hospital so they took his blood and they put it in a glass with ice and they had to take it to another place. and the bowie -- boy will most likely die because they don't he enough medicine. and that's what happened with that revolution, venezuela revolution. >> sean: we may disagree on immigration very st

paul: we still have obamacare, dan!hter] >> this is an idea they feel drives voters, if you just ask you for r medicare for all, 50 percent say yes. the minute you put in detail in like the end of private insurance, support drops in half. but this is all aimed at the primary voters in the democratic party. >> interesting that howard schultz criticizing, mike bloomberg and interestingly, the minnesota center amy klobuchar which is probably going to her present. ashe says is going to for let' start with age 55 and now of course 65 and older. she moved it down to 55. so she is going to position yourself a little different a. >> and another one is sherrod brown, ohio senator also thinks may be the full medicare for all, it's medicare for none actually. that goes away too is no government program comes in but i think some democrats probably listening to pollsters that are same for a while, don't say single-payer. that's where this false medicare for all message came from. they realize that when you tell people, no deductible

the health system for their health their bad livers their bad health are being harvested by the obamacare american health industry after the. valar of forest aggregate keynesian nonsense in the form of money trillions so the orthodox thinking that would be found in the economist who are hired by the federal reserve bank find in the literature on paper low interest rates should encourage more what they found by looking at actual model the structures of economies structures of markets in particular and looking at the models of what actually happens they found that a reduction competitive within destry the reason is that while both the leader and follower within an industry increase their investment in response to a reduction in interest rates the increase in investment is always stronger for the leader as a result the gap between the leader and follower increases as interest rates decline making industry less competitive and more concentrated and thus the productivity growth slows that means the economy the future slows they can basically rig the perception of it by rigging their earnings p

and what they'll tell you is how great obamacare is and how wonderful obama is for the st for delivering this system whereby you are forced into a marketplace of health care and yet i'll show you one of the problems of why these costs are rising by the way the blue line is your percentage of income the median percentage of income in america going towards hospital care just hospital care these are federal taxes as you see it's you know obamacare did nothing to stop that in fact it is excel aerated that and remember so they're pushing you into a marketplace max keiser you invented a virtual specialist technology you know markets well and one of the things that is important for a fully functioning market place is information there there should be no asymmetry of information all information should be available to all investors and participants in the marketplace so here the article points out that it is a problem matic enough that regional hospital monopolies have the power to demand high prices but on top of this many hospitals in gauge in additional anti-competitive practices and a wild ma

ca obamacare has really exposed the health care sector is that there is no competition whatsoever and you're forced to participate in it you're forced to participate in the stock market through your four zero one ks and things like that so you know with fewer and fewer competition they don't need to it's more like a soviet sort of system where there's a few you know these aren't they're basically state backed industries they get to control the entire internet all the ad revenue online goes to either facebook or google well look with no competition there's no price discovery so you end up with fake prices and fake prices beget fake news comes out of fake prices fake news you want to get rid of fake news restore competition in the marketplace to get real prices and then you'll get real news well the famous price of all is the price of money and who says that the u.s. federal reserve bank and that isn't this headline also from the m.b.e. are looking at how the role of zero percent interest rates has actually reduced competition reduced productivity in the economy and it's the same issue

we are never transcigging to medicare we couldn't transition obamacare no chance of doing this. >> we i'm afraid -- >> medicare for all but this is an idea that they feel drives voters polls said if you ask for medicare for all 56% yes a minute you put a detail in like the end of private insurance support drops in half. but this is all aimed at the primary voters in the democratic -- >> interesting, though, james howard schultz criticized it mike bloomberg krit sizessed it interestingly amy who is probably going to run for president she said well i think that's going too far let's start with age 55. coverage an now score at 65 and older so you move that down to 55. so maybe, i mean, she's going to position herself had a little differently. >> and another one is brown ohio senator thinks medicare for all medicare for none actually that goes away too as new government program comes in. but i think some democrats probably listening to democrat pollsters who have been saying for a while don't say single payer that's where this false medicare for all message came from. they realized that w

it will ensure about 60,000 less people than the previous obamacare program which voters had approvede november ballot. the state will instead ask the trump administration for permission to launch a partial expansion of medicaid for people earning up to 100% of the poverty level rather than the 138% under obamacare. the utah law marks the second time republican leaders have blocked ballot measures approving medicaid expansion in states that have long refused obamacare. the new plan is set to begin on april 1st. >> if you already filed your taxes and found your return is much smaller than in previous years you're not alone. a growing number of americans have learned their returns will be less than expected and in some cases they may owe money to the irs after years of receiving refunds. it's the first tax season under president trump's new tax code after it was passed by republicans in congress in december of 2017. according to the data from the irs for the week ending february the 1st the average refund this year is down 8.4% from last year to $1865. some refunds have decreased becaus

for again so again i'm subsidizing everyone subsidizing warren buffett's performance through our obamacare through the bailouts through the lack of oversight lack of governance lack of jurisprudence you know that's like ok grandpa we get it you need your diapers changed but she. it up but let's look at his also his cash on hand so here's a guy telling me who are hugely in debt with student loans student loans which by the way you cannot write off they follow you for eternity for the rest of your life you will have to pay this debt you cannot write it off there are loaded with obamacare sort of debts they have to pay tens of thousands of dollars in premiums every year for service by the way they can that therefore not access because it will cost another five thousand dollars to actually access and use the health care system so here he's telling these people take any penny you have and invest invest and well look at the cash pile piling high berkshire hathaway cash in two thousand two thousand and one he had less than five billion in cash on hand right now he has nearly one hundred twenty bi