will the judge rule next month to topple the entire obamacare law.ington post" notes a ruling against obamacare would put the white house and department of health and human services in a tight spot politically forcing officials to answer questions about what would happen to the millions of people who rely on provisions in the aca itself? this is far from the only chaotic policy move from the white house lately. this comes as politico reports trump's top advisers are rushing to find an escape hatch for a series of tariff increases in the coming months worried about the potential for further economic damage. and new reporting that trump may have swung so widely on the topic he's actually found himself on a similar view with barack obama. and that's up next. they're all over the place and no place. you're watching "hardball." plad no place you're watching "hardball. ♪ did you know you can save money by using dish soap to clean grease on more than dishes? try dawn ultra. dawn is for more than just dishes. with 3x more grease cleaning power per drop, it t

let's remember how hard obamacare was. it could not get a public option through congress when they were in full control. robert: do you thinke s democratic senate candidates next year if senator warren is the nominee would break? carl: yes, i think they've already broken. they're not noing m foricare for all. i think this issue, they see it as a driment. it's in the places they have to win. i didn't think her explanation of h p it would bed for was very good. it's really hard to see, oh, the elites are going to pay for itin but peoplhe middle will pay less. that's just not how it works. andlso, the idea to a lot of democrats that i talk to, so disruptingte the pri health insurance industry, they tust think it's bad. ey justt want a midterm election basically running onng let's fix obamacare, leter tiith this and now we're going to throw that out the window and run r on this big new program. robert: when you're talking to nouse democrats, they're focused on prescriptrug reform, not medicare for all. why is there a disconnec

joe biden going to run on obamacare, that will bring up bad memories. obamacare is talked about as good thing, democrats are going so far to left as far as eliminating private experience for people. let's not forget, obamacare destroyed the private healthcare system, skyrocketed premiums, it took millions of people off their plan, biggest lie barack obama told, if you like your doctor, you can keep it, which biden and elizabeth warren repeated last night, there is the obamacare problem and elizabeth warren making this insane argument that there is too much paperwork with the insurance companies and you are going to be more streamlined with a government-run program, which is a lie. >> the dmv -- >> harris: i want to jump in with this, hannah, we started the conversation with joe biden and i want to get back to the front-runner and get your response. after julian castro went after joe biden, apparently it was like a good idea for other people. here is senator cory booker >> we bring social workers in to homes and parents to help them deal -- >> i think ca

i think that building on this success of obamacare is. >> kate bedingfield, thank you so much. we appreciate it. of the biden campaign. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >>> joining me "the washington post" bureau chief and analyst phil rucker and senior adviser for citizens for responsibility and ethics in washington, walter schaub. we're going to put health care to the side for a moept and go back to crew yan. phil's, kate's argument is that this controversy is being amplified by the media to somehow equate it between joe biden and donald trump as if there's muddiness there. does she have a point? >> you asked a good series of questions there. this issue is in the media because the president of the united states conduct in a private conversation with a foreign leader is under scrutiny. and that's a serious issue and a matter of national security and why so many news organizations are covering it so intensely but in talking with trump advisers over the weekend it's clear that the president and his team see an advantage here, a political advantage in keeping

obamacare is personal to me. when i see the president try to tear it down and others propose to replace it and start over, that's personal to me too. we've got to build on what we did because every american he deserves affordable health care. paul: let's bring in kim strassel, kate o'dell and jason riley. so kate, what do you make of the biden ads? smart politics? >> i think it is smart politics because, look, he's trying to differentiate himself from the rest of the field and show he's not as radical as bernie or some of the other candidates who want to basically overhaul private insurance overnight and eliminate it. now, the policies are smart. the details are less stark than they may appear at first. he is proposing a public option which would be a major expansion of government health care and probably a weigh station to single payer. paul: it's a question of doing it in stages to get to a government run program or incrementally which is what biden wants or do it in one giant leap, that's the difference? >> ri

>>obamacare don't let president trump for you america after the trump administration and republicans in congress failed to repeal and replace the affordable care act. most members of the party moved on to other areas of health care reform. but arkansas congressman westerman is taking another crack at overhauling obama care people want the choice they want value for what they're paying for that's why we call it the fair care act westerman told a crowd at the american enterprise institute tuesday that it's possible to cover more people at a lower cost and cover those with preexisting conditions his proposal would expand the obamacare exchanges where people buy private health insurance they ideas to grow the individual marketplace and make it. white that marketplace was originally intended to do. >>to help lower the cost of premiums west germans legislation would set aside funding from insurers and the government to cover the costs of high-risk individuals it would also give states the option to hold open enrollment periods less frequently to walk in lower premiums for longer periods of

i think obamacare worked. medicare for all is the most cost-effective approach. i wrote the damn bill. >> bernie wrote the bill, i read the bill. i don't think that is a bold idea. >> the president saying you would have a buy-in. >> you are forgetting what you said two minutes ago? >> these national debates are becoming unwatchable. >> every time something good about barack obama comes up he says i was there. every time somebody questions the administration we were both part of, that was the president. >> i stand with barack obama all eight years, good, bad and indifferent. >> we will take your ar 15, your ak-47. >> castro and beto, thank you for standing so courageously. >> questions of empathy in our nation. >> people on one side and money on the other, the only way to win his ring it together. >> i want to fight and fix it. >> you ain't seen nothing yet ♪ something you will never forget ♪ baby ♪ you ain't seen nothing yet ♪ heather: a live look at houston thomas 3:02 in the morning is the time. think of cleared out, friday, september 13th come you are watching

he and moderate democrats defended their ideas of upgrading obamacare over aggressive proposals. >> my plan for health care costs a lot of money. it costs $740 billion. it doesn't cost $30 trillion. >> medicare for all. costs are going to go up for wealthier individuals and costs are going to go up for giant corporations. >> i wrote the damn bill, if i may say so. to eliminate all out-of-pocket expenses. >> he didn't answer the question. this is about candor, honesty, big ideas. let's have a big idea. the tax of 2% the senator is talking about, that raises about $3 billion. guess what? that leaves you about $28 billion short. >> we just need to be clear about what medicare for all is all about. instead of paying premiums into insurance companies, and then having insurance companies build their profits, by saying no to coverage, we're going to do this by saying everyone is covered. >> while bernie wrote the bill, i read the bill. and on page 8 -- on page 8 of the bill, it says that we will no longer have private insurance as we know it. i don't think that's a bold idea. i think it's a b

you had republicans campaigning on taking away obamacare. if you want to talk about health care going forward, i'm not sure that saying you're going to blow up the system right now where one can agree, regardless how you feel about obamacare, it was not given a fair shot. whether you're going to take obamacare as vice president biden said and redefine it and grow from it as opposed to blowing the system up and now questioning whether 150 million americans will be taken off of private insurance. i'm not sure that's a direction that democrats, any democratic voters want to go. >> the polls indicate where people are. most people want to expand obamacare as opposed to try something -- >> bernie sanders says -- this is what people want. >> well -- >> that's really not what people want. >> it's not what they say. >> let's talk about the julian castro moment with joe biden. we had secretary castro on earlier. he regretted nothing and seemed to raise more questions about the vice president's age. how did that land at the moment, and what's the linge

under obamacare, it will go up to 21 million. if you kept the same percentage, you would still have a lot more union members. but with government giving money , there will be various ways they will be able to unionize. a good analogy is canada with socialized medicine. you have 60% unionization of health care. they had far less before. they had far less before it was socialized. you will see huge quantities of people being unionized under obamacare. that is why the unions supported it. it had nothing to do with them getting a deferral on the cadillac plan. that was a smokescreen. they supported it because they know they will get a lot more members because of that and they will get $1 billion of dues for every one million members. and there are 20 million possible potential new members. you do the math. the numbers are staggering. next question? yes, sir. >> can you talk about the p.r. difficulties about selling this problem to the public when unions and liberal politicians have been so good about portraying this is a war against

obamacare. we are keeping it and running it as well as it can come up with the premiums are too high. if the t deductibles are through the roof, it's ridiculous. and we are coming up with lindsey graham and all of the folks were coming up with a great health care plan that if we take back the house -- that's why dan and greg, if we take backre the house, if we keep the senate, maybe even increase it a little bit. wouldn't be bad. and on the assumption we keep the presidency, you're going to have great health care. [cheers and applause] [crowd chanting] thank you. we almost had it buried we had a man campaigning for eight years to knock out obamacare. when he voted, it didn't work out that way, did it? we would have had it, but we are going to end up actually with a better plan. sometimes through adversity things work out better. we are going to t end up with a better plan, you watch. we will always protect patients with pre-existing conditions, always, you have my word. our ambitious campaign to

by protecting and building on obamacare.nt, i'm going to do everything in my power to make sure that it is done. everything to make sure that this nation finds cures to cancer, alzheimer's and other diseases. defense department can ,nvest in a thing called darpa from stealth technology to the internet, why should we be investing $100 billion in four years in a health care puzzle focus on cancer, alzheimer's and diabetes. we also have to provide for education. 12 years of education is not enough to make the middle class of the 21st century. is within our power to change that. we can do it easily. what we should be doing is making sure every single child in america from age 3, 4, 5 has axis to preschool education. creases -- that increases exponentially the possibility of them succeeding no matter what their background is. community college should be free for anyone. flat-out free. that we areto making sure teachers get paid a minimum of $60,000 per year across the country. we are going to have a significant shortage of teache

a nonprofit choice that would bring down the cost of insurance -- >> i'm for barack, i think the obamacareorked. >> reporter: julian castro went after front-runner joe biden directly. >> are you forgetting what you said two minutes ago? >> reporter: some on stage said the attack on the form 76-year-old vice president went to far. >> reporter: the debate was the first since recent mass shootings including two here in texas that killed more than two dozen people, putting gun violence in focus. >> hell yes, we're going to take your ar-15, your ak-47. we're not going to allow it to be used against fellow americans anymore. [ cheers ] >> reporter: the debate came one day after the 18th anniversary of 9/11. south bend mayor and american pete buttigieg called for a stop to endless wars. >> when i am president, an authorization for the use of military force will have a built-in three-year sunset. >> reporter: the five candidates who were asked promised to bring american troops home from iraq and afghanistan. some of the democratic hopefuls spoke at a midnight rally after last night's debate. the d

. >> obamacare worked. >> medicare for all is the most cost-effective to providing healthcare. i wrote the damn bill. >> bernie wrote the bill, i read the bill. a bold idea, i think it is a bad idea. >> the president from vermont -- >> to buy in. >> tell me what you said a few minutes ago. >> it is becoming unwatchable, democratic primary -- >> every time something good about barack obama comes up -- every time somebody questions, he says that was the president. >> i stand with barack obama all eight years, good, bad and indifferent. >> yes, your ak-47. >> el paso, god love you for standing up in the midst of that trend. >> this is a crisis. >> people on one side and the money on the other, the only way to win is to bring them together. >> i want to be in the fight to fix it in america. ♪ ♪ hit me with your best shot ♪ hit me with your best shot ♪ fire away ♪ >> certainly something is going on last night. rob: we are going to spend the next hour talking about it. jillian: it is friday, 13 september. todd: thanks for starting the day with us. 2020 candidates bringing the heat to

>>obamacare don't let president trump for you america after the trump administration and republicans in congress failed to repeal and replace the affordable care act. most members of the party moved on to other areas of health care reform. but arkansas congressman westerman is taking another crack at overhauling obama care people want the choices they want value for what they're paying for. that's why we call it the fair care act westerman told a crowd at the american enterprise institute tuesday that it's possible to cover more people at a lower cost and cover those with preexisting conditions his proposal would expand the obamacare exchanges where people buy private health insurance they ideas to grow the individual marketplace and make it. white that marketplace was originally intended to do. >>to help lower the cost of premiums west germans legislation would set aside funding from insurers and the government to cover the costs of high-risk individuals it would also give states the option to hold open enrollment periods less frequently talking lower premiums for longer periods of

certain topics from supporting obamacare to. border wall. takes a closer look at how it operates. what's more powerful in politics than money a strong candidate with a good program and idealist would say nothing a realist would say but a politician would say dark money dark money is the millions of dollars that behind the scenes donors are spending to send the political train down the track and according to the left leaning media it's a bad bad thing because the conservatives do it because brothers have made billions and want to ensure their government doesn't limit their ability to make more conservative donor david koch as one half of the koch brothers came to symbolize the influence of dark money in america but you know who's even better than conservatives that slipping the bills into their prodigy's pockets democrats according to this research a group called arabella advisors a little theme has been in the vanguard of the leftist money holds the shelter under their umbrella for nonprofit organizations by their nature they do not have to disclose who they're getting their money

bell advisors another group save my care has been pushing against republican attempts to repeal obamacare the president is sabotaging the system. other uncertainty in health care. remember this could lead to this. war for again. well their financial bad bone is made up by bills coming from a nother arabella advisors sprout the new venture fund the dark money is not a trick exclusively from the democratic playbook yes it's been revealed they do outperform the conservatives when it comes to the amount spent by more than 20 percent in fact but pro republican donors. do that too and according to the research media coverage is way out of balance with most outlets reserving a good bashing for the conservatives when you look at the mainstream media which has deservedly declining part declining viewership both the editorial and the production staff is chiefly in the anchors are chiefly democrats or democrat leaning so of course out of the mainstream media you're going to get that narrative reality is the independents and the rising anti-corruption anti-crime only part voting populace the united s

i think obamacare worked. add to it, replace everything cut, add a public option, guarantee everyone will be able to have affordable insurance. >> on medicare for all, costs will go up for wealthier individuals and costs are going to go up for giant corporations. but for hardworking families across this country, costs are going to go down and that's how it should work. >> every study done shows that medicare for all is the most cost effective approach for providing medical care for every man, woman and child in this country. i, who wrote the damn bill, if i may say so -- >> while bernie wrote the bill, i read the bill. on page 8 of the bill it says we will no longer have private insurance as we know it. >> the problem, senator sanders, with that damn bill that you wrote and that senator warren backs is that it doesn't trust the american people. >> all right. athena jones is with us now from houston. it's good to see so much focus on the issue that voters say is the most important one to them in the election. w

completely take away obamacare. betsy devos was out there trying to privatize public education with the freedom scholarships. it was about the same time they appointed somebody the bureau of land management that spent husband career trying to transfer federal lands. so how you beat him is how you treat anned a let sent. you call them out on his behavior. you say that's unacceptable for this country, but you don't focus on if every day. you focus on people's everyday lives. saying what he has done. if we're going to be honest, wage growth, job growth has been slower under trump than obama. what's gone up? our deficit has gone up. number of unb insured has gone up. hate crimes have gone up. so let's point out what this man has done for the country in that respect. and what it's done for people that are everyday struggling. he said that he drained the swamp. it's swampier today than ever before. you can do this over the next year and a half without making it about donald trump, but make it more about the voters. the pe

obamacare. and we are taking obamacare alive. we got rid of the individual mandates, the worst part about obamacare. [cheers and applause] we are keeping it and running it as well as we can, but the premiums are too high. the deductibles are through the roof. it's ridiculous. and we are coming up with lindsey graham and all of the folks. we're coming up with a great health care plan if we take back the house. that's why dan and greg, if we take back the house, eighth we keep the senate, to be even increased it a little bit, it would it be bad. and on the assumption we keep the presidency, you're gonna have great health care. [cheers and applause] [trump for president. >> president trump: thank you. we almost had it. we had a man campaigning. when he voted, it didn't work out that way, did it? we are going to end up, actually, with a better plan. sometimes, through adversity, things work out better. we are going to end up with a better plan. you watch. will always protect patients with pre-existing conditions. always. you have my

that's what obamacare delivered to people.is true socialist. >> there are some people out there that don't want to uphold the system. he said one you leave healthcare alone, i'm looking at my 401k and stock market going higher and i feel confident and feel good about the economy and i like how things are. i might not tell everybody i voted for president trump, when i'm in there privately that's the lever i'm pulling. >> thank you. we are out of time. onto a different issue, president trump saying he's open to a new idea to deliver a china trade deal, much sooner than anticipated. while asked deputy director chris christie about that next. >> we have taken many billions of dollars of tariffs and we of dollars of tariffs and we will do the deal, let's get it every curve, every innovation, every feeling. a product of mastery. lease the 2019 es 350 for $379 a month for 36 months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. was in an accident. when i called usaa, it was that voice asking me, "is your daughter ok?" that's where i felt

that's what obamacare delivered to people. >> there are some people out there that don't want to uphold the system. he said one you leave healthcare alone, i'm looking at my 401k and stock market going higher and i feel confident and feel good about the economy and i like how things are. i might not tell everybody i voted for president trump, when i'm in there privately that's the lever i'm pulling. >> thank you. we are out of time. onto a different issue, president trump saying he's open to a new idea to deliver a china trade deal, much sooner than anticipated. while asked deputy director chris christie about that next. >> we have taken many billions of dollars of tariffs and we will do the deal, let's get it done. ♪ all right brad, once again i have revolutionized the songwriting process. oh, here we go. i know i can't play an instrument, but this... this is my forte. obviously, for auto insurance, we've got the wheel route. obviously. retirement, we're going with a long-term play. makes sense. pet insurance, wait, let me gu

. >> i think the obamacare worked. i think the way we add to it, replace everything that's been cut, add a public option, guarantee that everyone will be able to have affordable assurance, number one. number two, i think we should be in a position of taking a look at what costs are. >> the answer is on medicare for all, costs are going to go up for wealthier individuals and costs are going to go up for giant corporations. but for hard working families across this country, costs are going to go down and that's how it should work, under medicare for all in our health care system. >> joe said that medicare for all would cost over 30n$30 trillion. that's right. status quo over 50 years will be $50 trillion. medicare for all is the most cost effective approach to providing health care to every man, woman, and child in this country. i who wrote the damn bill, if i may say so -- >> while bernie wrote the bill, i read the bill. on page 8, on page 8 of the bill, it says that we will no longer have private insurance as we know i

or biden's expansion of the obamacare plan.es: right. >> i think that is what is going to win in the end. charles: emma, it is interesting, the other candidates while not wanting to offend president obama and his fans, all kind of nodding, hey, thumbs up to president obama for taking us this far. they want to take it substantially further because they think the system is too profit-driven. that seems to be something that does work well with millenial voters, democratic millenial voters. >> not surprising to hear these people pick up and try to run further with what obama started with affordable care act. but this is definitely something that is driven by the more young wing of the democratic party. these are not things that poll well, play well with these moderate voters that are going to be needed to win the presidency. we've seen a lot of people dissatisfied with what obamacare did. i can speak for my grandparents, middle class, suburban voters, their premiums doubled under obama care. they remember his promise they get to ke

were keeping obamacare alive and we got rid of the individual mandate, worst part of obamaca obamacareapplause] and we are keeping it and running it as well as we can but the premiums are too high and that deductibles are through the roof it's ridiculous and we are coming up with lindsey graham and all of the folks coming up with a great health care plan that if we take back the house that is why dan and greg if we take back the house and if we keep the senate maybe even increase it and it would not be bad and on the assumption we keep the presidency we will have great health care. [cheering and applause] >> thank you. we almost had it. with a man campaigning for eight years to knock out obamacare and when he voted it did not work out that way, did it connect we would've had it but will end up with a better plan and sometimes through adversity things work out better. will end up with a better plan. you watch. you always protect patients with pre-existing conditions also, always. you have my word. >> our ambitious campaign to reduce the price of prescription drugs has produced the large

i think biden signaled he was going to say, i'm with obamacare, i'm with obama. and warren was ready for it. and they left it there. and laura's right, this was the debate where everybody had to say, you know, obama is a popular president. i think, you know, picking up on laura's point, one of the most poignant moments came from kamala harris. let's not talk about this proposal or not. the republicans are trying to take away obamacare. they're in court trying to take it away. that will resonate with voters. >> i want to go back to a holy cow moment. that was the julian castro exchange with joe biden, when he asked if he forgot. let's play it again, just so people can see this, what castro said to biden. >> the difference between what i support and you support, vice president biden, you require them to opt in. i would not require them to opt in. >> they do not have to buy in. they do not have to buy in. >> you just said that. you just said that two minutes ago. you said two minutes ago, they would have to buy in. are you forgetting what you said two minutes ago? a

republicans in the trump administration are trying to get a court to avoid obamacare. they have to no plans if they succeed. >> elizabeth warren in new york city. she received her top tier status after receiving a key endorsement. and she made the case that her liberal ideas can win the day. >> there's a lot at stake in this election. and people are scared. we can't choose a candidate because we're too scared to do anything else. >> the superwealthy, in fact, if i'm elected president, you're not going to get the tax cuts you got. i think we should be rewarding work as well as wealth. >> when i'm president, he can talk tough, and hug the flags. but i've faced a worse kind of incoming than a tweet full of typos. >> and kamala harris appeared on "the tonight show" last night. she's slow jamming the news with jimmy fallon. >> by now, we've seen the candidates get down and dirty on the debate stage. what about president trump? can you deliver it to the commander in cheese puff? >> i'm sure it will be a competitive face-off, where either one of us could end up on top. >> rea

completelytake away obamacare. that the divorce was out there trying to privatize public education with a freedoms . it was about the same time he appointed somebody to the euro of land management to extend his whole career trying to transfer federal land so i think how you beat him is first of all, how you treat an adolescent. call him out on his behavior. you say that's unacceptable for this country but you don't focus on it every day. you focus onwhat's happening to people every day lives and save both what he has done, like the foregoing to be honest , job growth has actually been slower under trump and it was under obama. what's on top? our deficithas gone up . number of other insureds gone up, hate crimes have gone up, bankruptcies and farms have gone up so let's point out what this man has done for that country and when it's done to people who are everyday struggling. because he said he got them back and he didn't. he said he drank the slop and it's sloppy are today than ever before. you can do this over the

would you rather vote for somebody who builds on obamac e obamacare? yes is the answer.o replace medicare for all. you understand that joe biden has the primary pgosition. >> castro going after him on the issue isn't that high-percentage. in terms of making that point, joe, you're old, does that work? >> no, it wasn't work. i'll tell you a number of reasons why it doesn't work. joe biden is 27% to 18 to 25-year-olds. 45-64, they make up the majority of the democratic electorate. that's why he's leading. he's leading because older voters like him. and you see it in the numbers? >> what do we see from cbs? >> candidate joe biden's age. do you think he's too old? only 31% in the early primaries said, yes, he is too old. two-thirds say age is not a concern with joe biden. i don't understand the castro attack, to be perfectly honest. he was wrong on the health care part. and biden did not say what castro claimed he said. and it doesn't go after biden's base. just came off bad. it's dominating the coverage right now. >> it is the coverage right now. with castro, the idea, when