they have to deliver now or replace obamacare? >> lookul, i usual agree with you and i agree with you this time as well. republicans have said for years we have to get a republican house, republican senate, republican president. we have those things. now there's an opportunity to get rid of the aca and to replace it with something different. so now is the time to see if those ideas work. >> with that in mind, tom price, pick a doctor himself, what do you make of his selection to lead hhs? >> i think it's a great pick. i know dr. price. he's a smart guy, he's a thoughtful guy. he's also a determined guy. this is a guy who keeps introducing plans to repeal and replace the affordable care act and has done it since the aca has been in fact. i think it's smart to bring a legislator who knows how to work the legislative process. if you recall, paul, the democrats wanted to bring in tom dash el. and i think it would have been a good move from a his perspective. it did not work out and the nomination blew up. then we had a situation where they ha

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paul ryan and i have been talking about a real health care bill, it will be terrific because the obamacare, look at what is happening, and you report it all the time, you see 116% increases in arizona and the numbers you are talking about, the tremendously high deductibles where you do not get to use it. we are going to do something that will be great for the people and less expensive. much better and less expensive. >> i look at fur things that lead to great economic success. it reminds me of reagan. 15% corporate tax rate. obamacare will be a tax cut for some. energy independence is huge. how much of this do you think can you do through rescinding executive orders? >> we will do a last it and i don't think we have to rescind, we are going to rescind some but i don't think we have to use many executive orders because we have a congress that is going along with things and a lot of democrats will join the train if you want to know the truth. >> have you talked to many? >> yes. i know so many people in politics over the year, and people say, well, he has never been in politics, i have been active

repealing and replacing obamacare. lookngress' job is to grind through the details of that policy. the president's job is to provide leadership and leverage where necessary. he can either make congress a partner or it can become the bermuda triangle for his presidency if he tries to push too much into it. >> i agree with dan on that. i think the nightmare scenario here is that trump gets into war with the republican congress and not only will he be attacked by democrats but he'll have differences with republicans and then he gets very little done. >> yeah, and i think it goes both ways, though. mary talked about how trump has shown flexibility on immigration. i think the republicans in congress also have to have some understanding that the things he made central to his candidacy, he has to deliver on in some fashion. now, there are parts of our border that have fences. can we build them a little higher? sure. i think you probably have to give him something he can say, look, we have a wall. that doesn't mean you go where he'

but the ishs is tars -- when th deducts the penalties of not signing up are obamacare, look for an executiverder to take that awe off of the table. mr. trump will replace it with health care exchanges that will actually work. >> we don't know what he's going to replace it with. there are some republican senators who have said they're not going to support a bill that doesn't replace. you have to have a replacement and he hasn't even spoken of such a thing. he doesn't know what to do. >> i was just asking you the question, do you think obamacare is working? >> absolutely. 20 million people are enr insured. so what are you going to do? take it away? what is going to happen to 207 million people insured right snu. >> the exchanges have collapsed, the premiums have gone so high people can't afford it. it doesn't work. >> i got you both fired up on a friday night. happy new year to both of you. thanks for being here. >>> tonight marks ten years since saddam hussein's execution. and the man who interrogated him said the brutal deck tart gave him warnings for america and sincerely surprised him. joh

look at 100% dollars from obamacare or some baseline scam where they use provider tax. now, you are getting back into a world that will grow. i think they will cap medicaid or try to. per capita cap and get into a finite budget. they are going to say, all our southern republic states are losers and california is a pretty cheap medicaid program, are winners. we are going to find a way to budget neutrally and phase this into equity over the next 25 years. good luck on that bu republicans say, i will do "x," "y" and "z." >> tom uses the word scam in medicaid a lot. >> i can document almost every state in the country and can tell you stories until the kaos come home and bipartisan on both sides. >> we would not be calling those scams. >> they are scams. >> everybody in the audience knows that they have a providing tax or a donation that's a total scam. as a taxpayer, it is outrageous. if you are in your state, get as much money from the federal government as you can. >> in terms of what tom is talking about, again, i'm kind of focusing on it is our potential that we will go

president-elect donald trump takes office next month repealing obamacare is at top of agenda folks business network peter barnes has a look care act. >> obamacare has been one of president-elect trump's pop targets. >> we will repeal disaster known as object care create new health care all sorts of reforms that work for you and your family and we are going to be doing it, properly. >> president obama has declared obamacare a success, especially this month as consumers enrolled for coverage in 2017, and as republicans threatened to scrap. >> it one study slows if congress repeals obamacare as they proposed, nearly 30 million americans would lose their coverage. >> 30 million. >> looking at 2015 obamacare repeal plan for clues to how mr. trump may proceed on replacing it came from republican congressman tom price of georgia, mr. trump nominated to be secretary of health and human seniors, would over age just the tax credits for the purse of individual and family health insurance policies, it would to encourage more people to contribute to savings accounts offer grants to states to subsidize insurance for sicker people would

. >> is the one big victory the american people have against illicit and obamacare. but looksee freedom flourish. home school was illegal and allstate's 30 years ago ted million are now being home school that is breaking into the monopoly. [applause] thirty years ago nowhere did a government have to give you a permit if you were 21 and on this but today 41 states all allow them least mae issued 12 million americans have concealed carry permit. to me that there is outrage is the complexity of how long it takes to understand your taxes. >> nine states have no income tax hike kansas and north carolina which are on a path to get rid of there's. the states competing with each other california and in your big move to texas and florida that should give us a hint as to where they want to go but that empowers the low tax limited government states. how else are we changing? 401k about half the country now has defined contribution plans and owning shares of stock. but that makes it more complex one out of three small businesses spend more than 80 hours per year just on federal taxes? >>

at the very least if you look at changing medicate with obamacare looking at those programs and how those changes will impact critical going forward so the lot of the things that will happen to the actuary to determine what it cost that is an important role to determine the policy going forward. and that is something that we know all too well to determine if it will go for wharf for the controversy surrounding afterwards. but to give and now some advice just listen to your staff for what will happen coming get you from bull's-eye its as the goal is to be successful matter the policy. by the way to be determined by congress rather than and cms. >> that is a good transition because i have been asked what can we expect out of the new cms designator? we don't know what cards are in their hands so that is set up by congress. so on of panel we can theorize with they will do, but as i promised talk about medicaid would. there is no major change putting it into a block grant program. obviously the new administration will do something with medicaid but also over the last four years with the covera

this evening, a look at obamacare and trump's promise to repeal and replace it. kevin mccarthy said a repeal vote will occur very soon in the new congress. rich edson looks at the challenges ahead for the reformers and consumers. >> reporter: this man runs an internet marketing business from his home. he, his wife and children have obamacare insurance. they bought a mid level silver plan on healthcare.gov. they say some of the related costs are too high. the system has been inefficient. >> my busineiggest thing is cos. when it comes to business and family, i don't care about politics. >> the tax credit is not compensating for the increase of the premiums going up. the tax credit is not helping us out in terms of lowering the cost. >> reporter: their health insurance may soon change. dramatically. republicans now control the future of american health care. since congress passed obamacare, they have run unrepealing it. congressional leaders say they will secure an obamacare repeal. possibly within the trump administration's first 100 days. >> look, we need to get ob

i expect will be looking at another round as well because it is all based on the obamacare structure. that is the problem. so we are going to look at ways that we can stabilize the insurance market. look for ways to begin the reform and the replacement process. we are looking at options that signal to america that there is a new way and a much better way to get health care there under obamacare. so we are still working through those issues. and continuing to have that discussion with the trump team as well. richard: as you are doing that, either for the replacement or this time, health care will have a bunch of packages in it, some on high-income households and someone industries. do you expect to keep those taxes in place during this transition? or do they get repealed on day one? once this becomes law? rep. brady: so what i can tell you for timing is that ultimately, the 23 taxes on americans and businesses and the insurance plans are going. they are a part of the problem. we also know that obamacare is such a mess that it can't be replaced overnight. it can be replaced overnight an

look, obamacare in particular was based on what we can call romney care, as you guys know, pretty much every provision of obamacare was based on a republican idea. >> hold on. wait, wait, wait -- rachel is right, there was not one single republican that voted for obamacare. >> that doesn't show it wasn't based on republican ideas, it was. the fact they were willing to vote against their own ideas just to spite the president that tells you more about republicans. >> hold on, guys. let's be very honest, that's what politics is in 2016 now. it's a divide. and it's divided along party lines. i get it. guess what, elections have consequences. it's a bit rich as rachel points out for maxine waters who spent the last eight years complaining about republicans not working with her now so say she's going to do the same thing she complained for about eight years. >> there's also a really big difference between saying you're going to vote as the district believe in and ing to stand up probably won't be much of what trump believes in and say you won't have a conversation with the president of the u

the obamacare, you look at what's happening, you see it in your report all of the time when you see 116% increases in arizona and you see the kind of numbers you're talking about and the tremendously high deductibles where you don't even get to use it. so we're going to do something that's great for the people and a lot less expensive. much better and less expensive. >> i looked at four things that i think would lead to great economic success. 15% corporate tax rate, repatriation of trillions, obamacare will be a tax cut for some people and energy independence is huge. how much of this do you think you'll be able to do through rescinding executive orders. >> i think we're going to do a lot of it and we're going to be rescinding executive orders but i don't think we're going to have to use very many executive orders because we have a congress that's going to go along with things. and i think a lot of democrats are going to join the train if you want to know the truth. >> have you talked to any? >> yes, i have. a lot of people said he's never been in politics. i've really been very active,

the obamacare, you look at what's happening, you see it in your report all of the time when you see 116% increases in arizona and you see the kind of numbers you're talking about and the tremendously high deductibles where you don't even get to use it. so we're going to do something that's great for the people and a lot less expensive. much better and less expensive. >> i looked at four things that i think would lead to great economic success. 15% corporate tax rate, repatriation of trillions, obamacare will be a tax cut for some people and energy independence is huge. how much of this do you think you'll be able to do through rescinding executive orders. >> i think we're going to do a lot of it and we're going to be rescinding executive orders but i don't think we're going to have to use very many executive orders because we have a congress that's going to go along with things. and i think a lot of democrats are going to join the train if you want to know the truth. >> have you talked to any? >> yes, i have. a lot of people said he's never been in politics. i've really been very active,

obamacare, it looks as if president-elect trump doesn't agree with the congressional leadership aboutericans deserve to have. he's talking about people with pre-existing conditions continuing to be insured. he's also talking about people 26 years and younger still being covered by their parents' insurance plans. that's not something that the congressional leadership has really promised americans. if he pushes for that, that's the legacy of obamacare. it's president obama who made those requirements for the american safety net. and then the issue, the issue of climate change. absolutely president-elect trump said he will pull out of the paris agreement. well, let's just see what happens. let's see how much of this he really can undo. so part of the legacy issue will depend on president-elect trump's relationship with congress and how much he achieves, and part of it will do, will relate to how president barack obama as a former president talks about the values that he espoused. >> what he does next. >> jimmy carter as doug knows very well, jimmy carter's legacy as a president was very

i expect they will be looking at another round as well because it is all based on the obamacare structure. that is the problem. we are going to look at ways we can stabilize that market. look for ways to begin the reform and the replacement process. we are looking at options that signal to america that there is a new way and a much better and affordable way to get health care than under obamacare. we are still working through those issues and continuing to have that discussion with the trump team as well. as you are doing that, either for the replacement or the interim period, the health care law has a whole bunch of taxes on high income households and industries. do you expect to keep those taxes in place during this transition? repealed onceet this repealed bill becomes law? rep. brady: what i can tell you for time, those 23 taxes on and businesses and insurance plans are going. they are part of the problem. we know obamacare is such a mess it can't be replaced overnight. it can't be replaced overnight in a way that gives peace of mind for americans who are using it today. all of those

. >> rose: and i think that is probably his single achievement, even though he looks at obamacare andan look at bringing the troops home, in the end, that's probably what he, when the country was tottering, when he took power in 2009, the crisis had been in 2008, you know, the system in terms of rescuing the system, that single idea prevailed. >> i think we were very lucky because in six months they have to make a series of hugely consequential decisions and, if you look now compared to others, the united states has in the last eight years created more jobs than europe, japan, south korea put together. it doesn't feel like that to some americans, but when you compare us to the rest of the world, what is striking is how healthy it is. >> rose: the u.s. economy is healthy. >> yes. >> rose: watch tomorrow, fareed zakaria, the legacy of barack obama at 9:00 p.m. eastern, cnn. back in a moment. stay with us. >> rose: brendan iribe is here, c.e.o. of oculus. he founded the virtual reality company in 2012, acquired by facebook in 2014 for $2 billion. the oculus team builds hardware and softw

democrats would have done a better job of explaining, speaking is not executive orders, it's obamacare. you looke fact that the economy is coming back. you had a president who inherited the bush economy which was in the toilet. and now housing prices are going up, the stock market, people incomes are going up and although we have a ways to go, we're no a lot better position than we were. something that donald trump, newt gingrich and many people have not been able to kren about barack obama is not an executive order, is not a piece of legislation that passed, it's what he means to so many people. this was a scandal-free administration. this was an example, an epitome of quote/unquote #blacklove. you saw he and michelle raise two amazing daughters, this was a white house that was pristine by all standards. and he was an example for so many people around the country. that's something that donald trump, newt gingrich, mitch mcconnell, no one will ever be able to take away from barack obama. >> all right. bakari sellers, larry sabato, thank you so much. happy holidays. appreciate it. still to come,

plus, yesterday a look into repealing obamacare. the president obama says he could have beaten donald trump, hmm, we are less than an hour to the closing bell. down to the floor the new york stock exchange, let's start the countdown. okay, so here we are. the second week of a holiday week. trading volume might be light side for wall street, folks, this is a very important day for the markets. here is why. last chance for the dow to break a major record. shortest span ever between one thousand point milestones, 10 to 11,000, this happened in 14 -- 1999, are we going get it today? less than 20 points away. a push and pull, we keep saying, but the nasdaq did make history today. check this out. on track for eighth record close since the election. i have to tell you, the nasdaq right now is up about 11% near to date. the record close there and gain gains, touching record high and widening the lead as the nasdaq best performer stock of the entire year and also we are watching this stock, tesla. they are speeding to the top of the nasdaq a

>> obamacare. >> that looked to me, and i don't know if you could tie to have mortality declining to doctors that said actually the system has suffered in terms of quality, and they used that to explain for the first time we had not seen an increase. >> can you point, joe, and -- i don't know the answer to this and i ask it skeptically, is there something that has happened because of the genes that prolonged life? >> we sequenced the jaw gnoma a decade ago, and the first theory came out in the '90s, and today we have one commercially medication genetically that is treating one person. >> it's scary. you do one thing and a lot of things happen, and before you doette kau see, you do -- you don't want to kill the patient. >> i am hopeful that what we have been talking about is about to have a boom. >> nobody disagrees that doing stuff to help productivity is good. >> i don't know about that. >> don't we need more education and -- >> maybe i should write a paper on that. >> produtkubd okay. i'm plugged into equities- trade confirmed- and i have global access 24/7. meaning i can do what i

he has to look ahead, look at obamacare, things he's staked his president on.biden to mansion, personally, and say we have to move on. we have elections in 2018 or 2020. the electoral college spoke, as it were. we're down but we're not out. >> u to acknowledge what you did wrong. stein, what did you think of it? >> i think the democrats actually ran a very good campaign. hillary clinton was my classmate at yale law school, so i love her for that. but -- >> i didn't go to yale. i'm not that smart. >> i know where yale is. does that count? >> the ultra left is creating this as if it were some kind of catastrophe and their behavior is a mental health issue, not a policy issue. also the left like those people who yelled at mrs. trump. there are some kind of mental health problems, like a baby bottle being taken away from a baby and the baby is screaming. >> i think liberals are psychopa psychopathic, but the democrats have realized that the white working class, that they didn't represent the white working class for many years and they're getting scared. >> i disagr

i put a lot of blame on the obamacare. if you look at increase in healthcare expenditures, at personal level, it has been absolute pa abla. -- p parabola. >> with all things that you described. could there be a change a foot. i call is manual spirits. that changes your mind with respect to maybe not going into a regular of being in a recession but hitting an inflection point. >> i have to confess, i have had this view of u.s. consumer for a long time, i fell after housing bubble burst they change their attitude about saving and debt. it would restream spending, market anticipate a return. when i was pressed on that for years, as to what would changeny view -- my answer of always pro growth business policies that put more money in people's pockets. charles: it is here. all right, thank you very much. >> really efficient you -- appreciate your first time on the show. >> thank you. charles: mainstream media questioning whether dr. ben carson is qualified to be in donald trump's cabinet, i have my own thoughts on the matter, payne's pat p

obamacare repeal. there are big questions on what that will look like it certainly at a high level, obamacare will look how does that breakdown for insurers? we will get to unitedhealth insurers likee or dislike the outlook for obamacare? zachary: insurers have already been getting out of obamacare. you saw at not get out, united health -- aetna get out, united health. they said we are losing money, we are pulling back. extent,signal to some -- anthem, signal to some extent, are still in there. but the big guys are getting out. vonnie: most if not all of the other stocks were up a little. zachary: unitedhealth group a lot of money on obamacare last year -- this year. investors have been willing to overlook that and look at the other strong pieces of their business. they had this big chunk, about 40% of their earnings right now, .ssentially technologies that unit has been doing really well and is not a traditional health insurance business investors seem to like that. the other thing they have going for them is fast growth in medicare. they have been winning some medicaid contracts as well. growing --ng

>> well, with one of the things that's crystal clear that's tops is this look at changing, repealing, replacing obamacareand this is a critical moment to be looking at this, because president obama this very week is scheduled to meet on wednesday with top democrats to figure out a way to preserve obamacare in its current form. what that looks like? unclear right now. but the president thinks that there must be some plan involved that could preclude president-elect trump from gutting what has been a very mixed review on a health care policy. and we'll see what president-elect trump does. but on day one, in terms of actual transitions, historically, the trump transition team seems to be ahead of schedule. they've got a lot of people in place and a lot of people scheduled for hearings already. and that's a good pace, i think, for president-elect trump. >> we leave it there. vince coglianese, happy new year. >> to you, too. >>> a scary situation at a theme park. riders trapped in the air for hours. how rescue workers were finally able to get them down. >> plus, new numbers show a dramatic surge in tleemilleg

so at the very least, if you're looking at changing medicaid and obamacare, which i think most people see as the exchange, if you're looking at making fairly significant changes to those programs, really involving industry, whether again insurers or providers and how the changes will impact those players will be critical in success going forward. and also, listening to your staff because in large part, a lot of the things that happen, if you don't listen for example to the actuaries who have often a role in determining what the thing costs from a score keeping perspective, that can be a very important role in determining whether or not a policy is successful in going forward or whether there are fights about what something costs, something that tom and i know all too well from determining whether or not the drug benefit was going to go forward and once it did go forward, the controversy surrounding it afterward. so i think if i were to give sema advice, it would be listen to industry, listen to your staff and be prepared for what will happen at you coming from both sides going forward

. >> look, i think health care will be better and cost less when obamacare is gone, so why would we wante three years to get rid of it? >> reporter: jake, gop officials tell me that rather than a comprehensive obamacare replacement they're looking at passing a series of smaller health care bills that they hope will win bipartisan support, setting that aside, though, another huge fight looming over reforming the tax code for corporations and individuals, and that is expected to dominate action on the hill for much of next year. but adding to that, a slew of major confirmation fights, including trump's pick for the supreme court, and you can see that trump's agenda next year could be filled with huge accomplishments or it could get quickly bogged down in capitol grid lock. >> thank you so much. >>> did china lay down the gauntlet for the next space race? where that country is promising to go by 2020. that story next. >>> welcome back to "the lead." the world lead today, china aiming upward with a plan to be among the major space powers in just the next few years. the plan calls for a landi

if you look at the things for health care, one of the first orders of business in the republican congress is to repeal and replace obamacare. if you look at the iran nuclear deal, that is one of the first orders of business, president-elect trump says he wants to dismantle and said it was horrible. tpp, that is not going forward. normalized relations with cuba, how do we know what is going to happen now with cuba? so all of these legacy-building things might actually end up not having much saying power. >> you made the perfect pitch for the documentary. because it started out as a kind of retrospective about obama. it has turned into a cliffhanger. because at every segment, we look at all the issues in every segment, the question we had to grapple with, what part of it is going to be erased? what part of it is going to be endured? i think some of it will be harder to overturn than you think. the iran deal, for example, it's a very complex international deal that has achieved an extraordinary thing where iran is not pursuing a nuclear weapon. if you overturn it, the iranians have a green light and nobody else is going to re

and then you look at obamacare. it has failed and everybody knows it. so what are we looking at a different place? we have to repeal it first and then we will replace it with new legislation where you get greater choice, more doctor/patient relationship. a health care system that actually works, that the premiums go down, greater choice. not an easy thing to do. >> all those insurance company, they said they would lose a billion dollars on it, they pulled out. do you think that you can work in terms of the insurance companies offering health care? >> oh, yeah. you want to have individuals that have greater choice, more options out there to pick from, and i've already sent a letter to every governor and every insurance commissioner, gives your ideas, as well. so it's not just the house or senate involved in this, we want everybody's input. because we want to get it right. >> explain sanctuary cities to me because i don't understand why or how it's possible that for all of these years we've been blowing off the law. what are you going to do with mayors lik

we'll look at things to unleash the economy, dealing with a regulatory burden that's making it more difficult to create jobs, repealing obamacareform, looks at what we can do to unleash our economy and get the growth rate back up, those are the things you will see reform on right away. >> woodruff: any reform on social security benefits, medicare? >> it wasn't something the president-elect at least early on articulated as something he wanted to accomplish, but i think we all recognize that if you look at the actuarial balances of some of the programs, social security for example, we have to make them sustainable for future generations and with we need to take steps to strengthen them today. the sooner the better. i mentioned early on this new coming president has an agenda. we look forward to working with him. i hope we engage on the issue of entitlement reform at some point in a way that preserves those programs not just for people who depend upon them today but for future generations as well. >> sreenivasan: senator john thune, thank you so much. >> thanks, hari. >> woodruff: california's salinas valley is often called the "s

maria: give your sense of the timeline for replacing obamacare what will that look like. >> you know, nobody probably hates obamacare or sees its failure more than i do, i want to get rid of it as soon as possible so i will vote for whatever timeline is as soon as possible to get rid of it. i will tell i one of my concerns, though. if you leave in place some of obamacare like if you leave in place, that shirks must sell insurance to people after they become sick i think you have an insurance model that won't work will lead to bankruptcy of the insurance companies so i am concerned that you repeal part leave preexisting condition that is a model that is very, very risity to the business itself, i fear we will be back, a year or two later having to bailout insurance companies if we leave part of it in place. >> wow, well i mean what happens to those people with preexisting conditions? >> yeah i think what we need to do is i can ma it easier for people to be larger pools to begin with if i have 10 employees one employee gets breast cancer devastating not only to the employee but economic

our republican conference has been diligent, as we have looked at the obamacare replacement, as we are looking at tax reform. even the ways and means committee, under chairman brady, next week, they're going to be in d.c. working on a tax reform plan. >> but you have not said anything recently about your concern about the president-elect thinking that he can do things that are really within the purview of your job as a congressperson. is this something that just bothered you with a democratic president and doesn't bother you as much with a republican president? >> respect for the co-equal branchs of government is something they treasure. and i know that you're going to see the executive branch work within their lane in the appropriate manner in working with the legislative branch. you know, it's so interesting, chris, right now, i could not tell you who my white house liaison is. we sent an spail to we-mail to we thought was our white house liaison and it bounced back. that shows you the lack of communication that exists between these two branches. >> the white house called that an evi

obamacare. >> when you look at a statement, he's saying exactly that, come on, let's move on. let's a lot of things to get to like the economy but he says for the best interest of the country and the american people, he will sit down and find out the facts from intelligence. >> well apparently he's been preefs on the facts or at least i hope he's taken breefs peef b fact. that is a little speechless considering the fact that he's got access to briefings that the rest of us don't have. move on, move on from the fact that we had a foreign power infiltrate and hack some of our democratic institutions, move on from the fact that this could easily happen. >> are you a fan, first of all, of us implementing the sanctions on russia and do they go far enough? >> i don't think they go far enough. but i will say this, short of seizing whatever assets we have in the west and the ability to seize that belong to vladimir putin personally and to members of his inner circle that control the kremlin, short of thatting with nothing goes far enough. if you want to punish vladimir put putin, you

obamacare. and he's already started to backtrack on that. >> thomas frank is author of "listen liberal." >> lookingbamacare, the's certain aspects that are massively popular and to undo them would be to kill your own political future. i think what he'll do is he'll fiddle around with it and call it trump care. you know? he'll adjust it in this way and that. >> no. he'll make good on promises. 32,000 pages in the affordable act known as obamacare and maybe 1 or 2 good things, even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day. having said that, he's made clear the replacement plan. >> trump also has big plans for infrastructure spending as outlined in his victory speech. >> we are going to fix our inner cities. and rebuild our highways, bridges, tunnels, airports, schools, hospitals. we're going to rebuild our infrastructure. and we'll put millions of our people to work as we rebuild it. >> i think this is going to be a battle. he's got two battles there. one is a battle with the democrats because, look, they're not going to -- they may not consider what he wants to spend sufficient and a battle

that will be hard so i think obamacare's legacy, let's see what the situation is like 2020 and what the health care environment looks like. >> let's hear from the man himself before he headed on vacation. npr sat down with president obama and asked him about obamacare, here's what he said. >> i could not be prouder of the fact that the uninsured rate has never been lower. that 20 million people have health insurance we didn't have before. but i said when the bill passed that it wasn't perfect and i don't know how many times i've said to republicans both publicly and privately and state of the union speeches and town halls around the country that if they're willing to engage and work with me then we can identify ways to tweak and improve this system. each time i've said this the basic republican response has been no, all we want to do is repeal it. and we'll replace it with something later. >> heidi, politically, can republicans get away with repealing it and replacing it with something later? >> i don't know they can because this is not rocket science. we have social compacts in this country and the way they work is

obamacare. and he's already started to backtrack on that. >> thomas frank is author of "listen liberal." >> lookingbamacare, the's certain aspects that are massively popular and to undo them would be to kill your own political future. i think what he'll do is he'll fiddle around with it and call it trump care. you know? he'll adjust it in this way and that. >> no. he'll make good on promises. 32,000 pages in the affordable act known as obamacare and maybe 1 or 2 good things, even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day. having said that, he's made clear the replacement plan. >> trump also has big plans for infrastructure spending as outlined in his victory speech. >> we are going to fix our inner cities. and rebuild our highways, bridges, tunnels, airports, schools, hospitals. we're going to rebuild our infrastructure. and we'll put millions of our people to work as we rebuild it. >> i think this is going to be a battle. he's got two battles there. one is a battle with the democrats because, look, they're not going to -- they may not consider what he wants to spend sufficient and a battle

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