with the obamale administration. [inaudible] >> but yes it gets more attention because of the article in the new york times.be but those that i have also written with chavez and i have written for them a couple of times so yes it is quite ironic. it is a strange sensation to trigger to make me angry and this is what started all this off and i am also a dual citizen to say this is not good for either of us. >> we haven't seen all of these. of how you can deal with all of the actual everything regarding with the sanctions and we also know and then to be working in the corporation and with that desire that you have to help because, you know. >> i just want to ask something. about pensions and then to change venezuela or and then also protecting the institutions. and sometimes in south africa that there are sanctions and weapons, arms and don't one them to get involved. but going forward with sanctions they protect their citizens that is a legitimate concern because they destroy the citizens and nations to get the protec