professor and chair of hispanic studies at oberlin college in the u.s. state of ohio he is also the author of memory battles of the spanish civil war a book which examines how spain has or indeed has not confronted the legacy of its civil war from 196939. sebastian is with me tonight welcome to the show i want to pick up sebastian if we can on the piece that we just saw they are you know here in berlin we are confronted constantly with history and representation of the past in germany is considered a role model around the world in coming to terms with its past its dark past in particular we can't say the same about spain why is there well there's a couple of big differences between spain and germany. apart from the fact that the franco regime last quite a bit longer than the nazi regime but unlike the not should not see regime the franco regime was not defeated in a war it ended when franco died a natural death and the transition to democracy that followed was partly engineered by the frank regime itself and some of its key elements such as the monarchy

sally made mention of the oberlin college verdict and if you're not following it closely, you might be wondering why did the court find a college, a private college liable for the actions of students off campus. and one of the chief reasons was is that the dean of students and adviser to the president for diversity and inclusion participated actively in the student protests, helped the students organize, passed out the flyers, sent lots of incriminating emails about how awful the bakery was and reinforced the harassment about some totally bogus charges. and the next thing about america, we still have trial by jury. the jury in that part of ohio didn't think this was -- didn't take too kindly to all this. i think that the remedy and i'll come back to this in a couple of minutes, just about every university ought to fire half of their administrators. it wouldn't matter which half. things would get better if you hired half your administrators. i'll say that there are few universities just in last few weeks that have announced cutbacks in the administrative positions. and reason for that i

was awarded 44 million dollars in damages, which was a very exciting thing and the people at oberlin collegere beside themselves. charles' cousin went to oberlin and it turned her into a marxist communist. i'm not a big fan of oberlin.